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Darjeeling FAR

I have nominated Darjeeling for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.

Tamil linguists

It was a strange page, the only blue link was to S. P. Balasubrahmanyam who is a singer, not a linguist. I redirected the page to List of linguists. If anyone is interested in actually making an article/list of it, feel free to revert my redirect. I found the page because of some strange advertising for it in another article, by a couple of SPAs. -SpacemanSpiff 16:27, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Redirect reverted saying it's a new page and errors should be expected, no improvement. At this point, the page does more harm than good, and I'd say that adding a tag wouldn't solve anything. So unless one of the admins here does a protected redirect or someone else actually makes some improvement to the article/list, it's an AfD candidate. -SpacemanSpiff 19:52, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Disputes involving a certain article/user

A recent dispute involving the actions of an admin (from this WikiProject) and a particular IP who is no longer editing, on that article, has led to an admin RfC/U - one of the issues raised is whether the IP was disruptively continuing prior disputes or trolling. Is anyone from this project aware of prior ethnic-disputes on articles relating to Telegu? Any input on this is more likely to be helpful than none at all. Ncmvocalist (talk) 00:49, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Good article nomination: Hans Raj Khanna

I just added Hans Raj Khanna to Wikipedia:Good article nominations#Law. Though I'm a long time editor, I usually stick to content - this is my first GA nomination. I went through the criteria, felt they were met (though the image is copyright Indian Govt). Please help out.

Sorry if this is not the right place for putting such requests, feel free to move to right forum. mukerjee (talk) 04:04, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

bracket removal proposal

I am proposing to remove the brackets from Lok Sabha constituencies such as Chennai North (Lok Sabha constituency). I dont see the point why we need it. I would like to get a consensus before as it would affect over 500 articles. --CarTick 18:18, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, the current structure appears to be the convention across multiple countries. I just checked England -- Category:Parliamentary constituencies in England and Ireland -- Category:Dáil Éireann constituencies in the Republic of Ireland. -SpacemanSpiff 19:01, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this needs fixing, primarily because a parliamentary constituency is not necessarily a well-defined place (in the sense that it may not have independent existence as the name of a place). At least that's the way it is in the United States, which is why districts are numbered rather than named. See, for example, New York's 5th congressional district which covers parts of Queens as well as parts of Long Island. (Of course, the way constituencies are created in India may be totally different and may be well-associated with distinct geographical entities.)--RegentsPark (sticks and stones) 19:09, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

If I read it correctly, CarTick's proposal wasn't to remove the "Lok Sabha constituency" tag, but rather change to Chennai North Lok Sabha constituency. It reads ok that ways, but it's apparently not the standard way in which constituencies are marked here on WP. -SpacemanSpiff 19:14, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

I guess I misunderstood. I'm easy with either format - though the parentheses-less format is perhaps the more accurate because Lok Sabha Constituency is not really a qualifier. --RegentsPark (sticks and stones) 19:45, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

I would oppose it for the following reason: non-Indians will not be familiar with the term "Lok Sabha" and may confuse the name. For example: Chennai North Lok Sabha constituency. Indians will understand that this is "Chennai North" "Lok Sabha constituency". An unfamilar person may take it as "Chennai North Lok Sabha" "constituency". The parantheses keep things in perspective. --Deepak D'Souza (talk) 04:26, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Wouldn't it be easier if it were Chennai North Parliamentary Constituency? Can't the article spell it out as the lower house? This way it would make sense to someone who is not familiar with India. Wiki San Roze ^†αLҝ 14:49, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

We always handle disambiguations with brackets. The lok sabha town name conflicts with the actual town and so the disambiguation. Why not create redirects for what you are proposing? They come cheap. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 01:53, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

constant menace in India page......

ARYAN818, user who was blocked for his username. I personally dont believe in what he was accused for his username. He sounds naive (in wikipedia world politics) and interested in one POV. He just wants Aryan heritage and all other good things in his perspective in the India page. He is clearly a POV pusher. As I believe every person can and should be reasoned with and given a chance to mend themselves, I am wondering if this user can be taught out of his single-perspective world. Is it even worth the effort? are we just going to ignore him until he gets blocked one day again. --CarTick 14:13, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't really care for his user name, but this set of posts prevents any assumption of good faith from me. I doubt it's worth the effort, but there are some people here with Gandhian patience :) -SpacemanSpiff 14:41, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

I have conflicting views on this. I think both ways. my intuition tells me to ignore and revert on sight. but, considering that we have so many editors leaving, a reformed POV pusher wouldnt be a bad idea. but you r right, who has the patience.--CarTick 15:21, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

He only edits talk pages and never articles. He's just trying to get a rise out of people, so no need to worry. If he was sort of serious he would just edit some article and if anything useful is added it will stick. People don't just revert spelling errors, ref addns just because people are banned, even though they all vow to in arbitration decisions and all that. Those vows are just part of the wiki-game YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (help the Invincibles Featured topic drive) 16:31, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

That is perhaps true in some cases, but I still see banned users being reverted on principle, and then any spelling errosr etc. being fixed by a non-banned user. The same goes for the exceptionally rare instances where content contributions are good. Ncmvocalist (talk) 16:36, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

His username issue aside, I did not see any useful contribs from him be it as a registerd user or as an anon IP. Some of you may remember he had promised to add some "good pictures" of India that he had, used it as an excuse to canvas for an unblock; refused to change his username; got unblocked and ended up being blocked by someone else. His account has since been deleted. And yes, those "good pictures" never materialized! The problem is that Aryan is not really interested in Wikipedia. For him this is just a forum to wail about how great race has not been given its due credit. He hasnt been disruptive so far only been a pain in the ..., which is why he isn't a good case for a block request. One of these days he will certainly progress to the next stage and get a block; just like Gaunkaar. In my experience POV pushers rarely become good contributors; and if they do, it is only as long as their POV is preserved. Try if you feel he is worth it but IMHO, he has proved 4-5 times that he isnt worth it.--Deepak D'Souza (talk) 04:59, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

I too suggest that we keep it simple and address each of his posts on their merits instead of worrying too much about the person behind it. If he has a genuinely good-faith question or suggestion, address it (at least the first time). If he is soapboxing, ignore him, or revert if it gets too repetitive. If he makes person attacks, revert and warn him.
In my experience, POV pushers seldom become good contributors (there are exceptions, whom I won't name :-) ); we should make an effort at least at the beginning, but know when to limit our losses. More important is retaining experienced editors by supporting them against trolls, and welcoming/guiding inexperienced users (such as, say, User:Aschvetahata), who have potential but are not yet familiar with the technical details. Abecedare (talk) 05:21, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

If anyone is interested in converting a POV warrior, you can help me here. cheers -SpacemanSpiff 05:54, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

FAR notice Flag of India

I have nominated Flag of India for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.Cirt (talk) 03:22, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedians in Chennai

I noticed that we do not have category for Wikipedians from Chennai, and hence tried creating one. However, it appears that such a category did exist, and was deleted (see here) as per Wikipedia:CSD#C1. This actually means the category was deleted because it was empty for more than 4 days.

The page also says: If you are creating a new page with different content, please continue. If you are recreating a page similar to the previously deleted page, or are unsure, please first contact the deleting administrator using the information provided below.

My questions:

• Is there any way for me/admins to rollback the delete?

• I feel that the delete was unnecessary.. Surely the category was empty because not much ppl knew about it ;-) is what I feel. I don't want to create the category for it to become empty again. So can we have a roll call of Chennai Wikipedians, who would like to add themselves to the category, please? Shivasubramanian (talk) 07:40, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Shiva, Get the category filled up...one of the admins here can rollback the delete. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 01:34, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

How? The category page is not yet created, isn't it? I guess the admins will have to rollback - only then can I add my name to it. Shivasubramanian (talk) 05:21, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

I think Ganeshk is suggesting that if the category is added to a few pages (even as a redlink), then it can be undeleted without the risk of immediate re-deletion. Abecedare (talk) 05:46, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

You can ask editors listed at WP:WTCI if they wish to be listed in the category. Abecedare (talk) 05:49, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

I have added myself to the category. Request Chennai based wikipedians to add themselves. Shivasubramanian (talk) 09:13, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

FYI

Tamil Nadu state assembly election, 1967, nominated for good article. first one. will find out. --CarTick 15:08, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

First?? And find out what? Please clarify - the statement is extremely cryptic. Regards, SBC-YPR (talk) 17:10, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

sorry about that. is my first nomination and just curious how it will turn out. --CarTick 17:37, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Rashtreeya Vidyalaya College of Engineering

Can some administrators keep an eye on this article. This article has history of vandalism and addition of non-sense content... I am a sporadic editor and made lot of improvements to it, I don't want to see it vandalized. Thank you. Rvian00 (talk) 08:40, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Asian Indian American service during World War II

I am looking for assistance in finding references regarding Asian Indian Americans during World War II. During the 1940 US Census "Hindu Americans" were the fourth largest group of Asian Americans after the Japanese, Chinese, and Filipinos. So far I have not found significant sources which to create a paragraph for Indian Americans in the article Military History of Asian Americans. If anyone would like to assist, they can place references they find on the article's talk page. Thank you in advance. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 11:02, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Varanapally

Is Varanapally notable enough for an article? It was PRODded as non-existent, I found enough references do de-prod it, but now the question is, should it go to speedy or AfD, should it be redirected, or should it be expanded into something worthy of being on Wikipedia? I must confess my ignorance on India-related matters. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 03:01, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

The 3 other contributions of the brand new editor Anudath09 (talk · contribs) should be given a once-over for technical accuracy. I'm not familiar enough with the subject matter to know if he's inserting valuable information and making legitimate corrections or if he's engaging in self-promotion. With WP:AGF and my own ignorance in mind I left them alone. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 03:06, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

IMO it is not notable enough for a separate article, the image and text can be inserted into the Narayanguru article. Not notable enough to stand alone. His edits to narayana guru and kayamkulam are harmless additions(i fixed the bold text and table alignment disruption in kayamkulam article). The user seems to be a local resident looking up his neighbourhood in wikipedia and trying to add the information he knows about it. --Sodabottle (talk) 04:21, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

help

I created a lot of politician stubs using election database from ECI. Unfortunately, all the links are dead now due to a change from eci.nic.in/StatisticalReports to eci.nic.in/eci_main/StatisticalReports for all election results. Is there any easy way to correct all of them. --CarTick 05:05, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

You can use AWB to do that with a find and replace. -SpacemanSpiff 05:45, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

i will get that and see how it works. i would still have to do one by one, isnt it? --CarTick 05:52, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

You can create a list on AWB to cover all the articles you want, set a rule to find "://eci.nic.in/StatisticalReports/SE_1967/" and replace with "://eci.nic.in/eci_main/StatisticalReports/SE_1967/". And click save every time it does the replacement. Also, as Ganesh mentioned, you can use the script to create the articles from it, instead of typing the stuff again and again. cheers. -SpacemanSpiff 05:57, 20 November 2009 (UTC)