Talk:Aliens Versus Predator 2

Multiplayer

section out of date. Official support has ceased. Official Publisher announcement here [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.229.73.216 (talk • contribs) 23:50, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

russian version of wikipedia covers this, and cites that URL [2] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.229.73.216 (talk) 00:05, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

For the umpteenth time, the article talk page is not a forum. If you have a reliable source, then nothing is preventing you from adding this information to the article. However, I would recommend searching for a different source, preferrably a third-party one, as messageboard forums are not generally considered reliable. Perhaps the company has presented the same information in some kind of news post or press release, rather than on a forum. Or even better, perhaps their announcement has been covered by a third-party gaming news source. Or is the forum the only way they make these types of announcements? If so, all you need do is cite the source and it can be included in the article. --IllaZilla (talk) 05:15, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Third-party gaming news sources cite this forum message as a primary source: [3] [4] [5] 80.93.176.70 (talk) 09:52, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

and when i add this to the article you reverted it multiple times --98.229.73.216 (talk) 16:49, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Because you have yet to cite a reliable source, despite numerous requests. Another editor has provided some above. --IllaZilla (talk) 16:53, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

maybe i dont know how to do all that fancy jazz? instead of reverting my earlier attempts, maybe help with formating the reference url? numerous other wikipedia articles cite [6] as a source. [7] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.229.73.216 (talk) 17:01, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, this article contains very few in text citations.

Which is a reason to find more sources, not to add even more unreferenced statements. It's not just the matter of a source, you keep inserting a boilerplate comment: "Official support from the publisher has ceased" right beneath the multiplayer section header. This is extremely poor writing. If you want to add information to the article, don't just treat it like a blog or forum & slap the same statement wherever you please. Find a place where it might flow with the article's text, construct one or two complete sentences, and then finish with a citation. For example: "In November 2008 Sierra discontinued its online multiplayer support for Aliens versus Predator 2 along with a number of other games, making Aliens versus Predator 2's online multiplayer component no longer playable through the developer's servers." And that should go at the bottom of the Multiplayer section, not the top. Do you see how that's better, and makes more sense, than just slapping "Official support from the publisher has ceased" at the top of the section? --IllaZilla (talk) 18:09, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

your comment about sources in this article is comparable to putting new tires in a car with a broken engine. My additions have had sources, multiple at that. If you believe so strongly that my writing is so poor why dont you make a proper correction to this article by updating it with the current and accurate information provided. Many hours of frustration have been experienced because people do not have the correct information. The russian version of this article already includes the information I have been trying to add for 6 months. "Aliens versus Predator 2 has several multiplayer modes which can no longer be played through an internet or Local Area Network connection. "—Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.229.73.216 (talk) 17:09, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Story\Plot Expansion

Rather than simply being a bitch and reposting the plot elaboration that lasted less than 24 hours online, I thought I'd come here and voice my opinion. AvP2 is a large game that follows not one, but three seperate and complex storylines. The a plot section the size of the currant one might be suitable for a movie, or a single-story game. But AvP2 is three times more detailed, and therefore, I feel it warrants a larger acknowledgement of the plot.

All three plots of AvP2 are well thought out, encompass strong characters and interwine naturally. I feel that that deserves more than just a couple of sentances each.

A lot of people who don't play video games don't realize how immersive they are these days. They see games still being as simple as Donkey Kong or Space Invaders - a good guy battling gorillas or chimps just because the manual says "they're the bad guy". They don't appreciate that there is so much backstory and such dynamic plots/characters in modern videogames.

Granted, that most people who aren't interested in videogames won't do a wikipedia search on AvP2 to begin with, but for the ones that do, I think it's important to let them know that there's more to this game than just attacking "bad guys" with only a loose premise to back your actions up. --122.148.183.5 (talk) 15:50, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Please see WP:PLOT and WP:WAF. While we do include a brief plot summary and details about the plots of works of fiction (video games included), extensive, in-depth and overly detailed plot descriptions are far more detail than Wikipedia wants. Our focus is on the real-world aspects of the game: its development, gameplay, reception, etc. The plot summary is only a part of that larger encyclopedic treatment. The 3 campaigns can easily be summed up in a concise manner (remember, this is a plot summary, not a blow-by-blow). This is far too much plot detail, way out of proportion to the rest of the coverage. The current version is much more concise while still devoting a paragraph to each campaign and covering the most salient details. --IllaZilla (talk) 20:54, 7 March 2010 (UTC)