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I object to the use of "Bootstrap paradox" in the title of this article. "Ontological paradox" is the formal or scientific name and since such a name exists it should be used for the article title rather than a colloquial name. Reccommend the title "Bootstrap paradox in fiction" be a renamed to "Ontological paradox in fiction". [[User:ObiWanBillKenobi|ObiWanBillKenobi]] ([[User talk:ObiWanBillKenobi|talk]]) 03:49, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
I object to the use of "Bootstrap paradox" in the title of this article. "Ontological paradox" is the formal or scientific name and since such a name exists it should be used for the article title rather than a colloquial name. Reccommend the title "Bootstrap paradox in fiction" be renamed to "Ontological paradox in fiction". [[User:ObiWanBillKenobi|ObiWanBillKenobi]] ([[User talk:ObiWanBillKenobi|talk]]) 03:49, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

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  • Ahem* I have removed the "My Little Pony" example because it is not a clear example of an ontological paradox. Twilight Sparkle does not go to the Canterlot library to retrieve the time travel spell, but a different spell; one to stop time. This leaves only "time-related spells are in the Starswirl the Bearded wing" as a possible ontological paradox, and, given Future Twilight's attitude when relaying the information, it's entirely possible Past Twilight knew that much already, but forgot it in the excitement of meeting her former self.

If any of you are wondering why people are discussing ontological paradoxes in My Little Pony -- well, you clearly haven't been watching My Little Pony. 75.210.130.97 (talk) 01:33, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No BTTF?

Back to the Future is riddled with these. One notable example: the song "Johnny Be Good". Marty learned it from the Van Halen cover, who adapted it from the Chuck Berry original, which (according to the film's fiction) he heard over the phone when his brother Marvin heard it being played by Marty at the dance. Thus nobody can be credited as the original author of the song. Lurlock (talk) 17:59, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think the reason BTTF keeps being taken out is that it relies on the "multiple universes" get-out clause, which means that, technically, there are no paradoxes, only alternate realities. However, that is also true of the Terminator franchise, so I don't really think it applies. Serendipodous 19:41, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I object to the use of "Bootstrap paradox" in the title of this article. "Ontological paradox" is the formal or scientific name and since such a name exists it should be used for the article title rather than a colloquial name. Reccommend the title "Bootstrap paradox in fiction" be renamed to "Ontological paradox in fiction". ObiWanBillKenobi (talk) 03:49, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]