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Noah Pawlowski

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Non-notable, fails the tests at WP:NFOOTY. ukexpat (talk) 14:40, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. J04n(talk page) 16:13, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

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Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. J04n(talk page) 16:13, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

• Keep: In regard to the proposed deletion of Noah Pawlowski because of failure on WP:NFOOTY. He is not a professional footballer and rather his inclusions would fall under the category of WP:NCOLLATH, in particular #1. He was awarded the top Canadian university honour for goalkeeping, that is a national award and so it seems like a clear point for inclusion, additionally he has been "the subject of non-trivial media coverage beyond merely a repeating of their statistics, mentions in game summaries, or other", for example.--YouCallThisClean? (talk) 21:30, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:40, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 13:26, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
• Delete - He hasn't played in a Fully professional league and he doesn't have any senior international caps either therefore he fails WP:NFOOTBALL. IJA (talk) 15:45, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

He isn't being listed as a professional athlete, rather as an Amateur Sports Person who has won a national award and who has received non trivial news coverage. This qualifies the entry as notable based on WP:NCOLLATH--YouCallThisClean? (talk) 07:56, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

• Keep - Passes WP:NCOLLATH as has been awarded all-Canadian status. NCOLLATH suggests awards and similar to those found here are sufficient. All-Canadian football team would appear to be the equivalent to College Football All-America Team. Needs expanding to show WP:GNG in a wider context not deleting. @GiantSnowman: and @IJA: may want to revisit their opinions as WP:NFOOTY is not relevant in this context. Fenix down (talk) 10:30, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

• @YouCallThisClean?: @Fenix down: - NCOLLATH states "College athletes and coaches are notable if they have been the subject of non-trivial media coverage beyond merely a repeating of their statistics, mentions in game summaries, or other WP:ROUTINE coverage" which I don't see here, regardless of whatever college-level award they have been given. GiantSnowman 13:24, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Has he won anything? The article only says nominated. IJA (talk) 14:44, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

As the source clearly states: Pawlowski is the only goalkeeper named to the CIS First Team All-Canadian list. This is sufficient per NCOLLATH for notability as winning a national award to my mind. Fenix down (talk) 14:52, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Again, "College athletes and coaches are notable if they have been the subject of non-trivial media coverage" - where is that with this individual? GiantSnowman 17:53, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

• @Fenix down: @YouCallThisClean?: Take a look at reference 2 on the Noah Pawlowski page. It clearly qualifies as non-trivial media coverage, ie "beyond merely a repeating of their statistics, mentions in game summaries, or other".