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== January 2016 ==
== January 2016 ==
Hi James, thanks for your message on [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:81.63.162.231|User talk:81.63.162.231]]. I am surprised by your readiness to remove an edit you can at least see as not being destructive. Were you sure it was not constructive ? The https link does not work on my computer / browser. Moreover, this webcomic mentions on each page a "Permanent link to this comic" which read "http://". So I will modify https to http again, hoping that if the correction is removed again, it will be for a better reason than my not being connected, my limited number of edits, or a lack of verification. It is sad to think that other corrections such as this one are removed on a regular basis.
Hi James, thanks for your message on [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:81.63.162.231|User]]. I am surprised by your readiness to remove an edit you can at least see as not being destructive. Were you sure it was not constructive ? The https link does not work on my computer / browser. Moreover, this webcomic mentions on each page a "Permanent link to this comic" which read "http://". So I will modify https to http again, hoping that if the correction is removed again, it will be for a better reason than my not being connected, my limited number of edits, or a lack of verification. It is sad to think that other corrections such as this one are removed on a regular basis.

Revision as of 07:29, 25 January 2016

San Pedro, Los Angeles, & Salt Lake RR Depot

Torri, I have no idea why you created San Pedro, Los Angeles, & Salt Lake RR Depot. What's the connection to Riverside (train station)? Oiyarbepsy (talk) 03:08, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It is the name on the NRHP listing for the historic building at/near the station. --Tt(talk/contribs) 03:14, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Ventura County

Hi Torritorri, I was going to let you know that have a lot of knowledge by heart regarding many different subjects. For example I could tell you the best way to get from LA to NY by heart. I got that information when I was talking to someone regarding Ventura County and they mentioned that Ventura County was the largest county without an airline. Please write back if you have any questions. Thank You for excepting me as an editor Sincerely, Aram — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aram Dakessian (talk • contribs) 05:19, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I've reverted your move of Pomona Metrolink station as it's disambiguating without good reason. Can you show me where there is another Pomona Metrolink station please? Feel free to start a WP:RM if you think a move is still required. Thanks, Jeni (talk) 13:37, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The stations are listed on the page's hatnote as well as the Pomona disambiguation page. See Metrolink (Southern California) and Pomona, CA generally, Downtown Pomona station and Pomona (North) station specifically. --Regards, James(talk/contribs) 13:42, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
None of those stations are called Pomona Metrolink station, disambiguation beyond a hatnote is not required here. Jeni (talk) 13:43, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
While the page titles may not match exactly due to the recent adoption of WP:USSTATION as a guideline, "Pomona Metrolink station" is a likely search term to be used for either of the Pomona Metrolink stations in Southern California. None of these stations qualify as a primary topic, arguably; so the title Pomona Metrolink station should link to the Pomona disambiguation page. --Regards, James(talk/contribs) 13:49, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Regardless of WP:USSTATION, there is no metrolink station in the US that is called "Pomona", it's either Pomona (North) or Downtown Pomona. In this situation the hatnote that is at the top of page is sufficient enough to direct people to the right page if they happen to land on Pomona Metrolink station by mistake. Redirecting to the Pomona disambiguation page is overkill and, quite frankly a step backwards for the original reader. Like I said, I'm happy for you to start a requested move if you feel that I'm being unfair, however I strongly suspect you will not gather sufficient consensus. Jeni (talk) 13:54, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Per this discussion, it'd probably be best if you do a requested move since the other user objected to the last page move you did. This way you'll have various editors commenting on the best name for the article. 🎄 Corkythehornetfan 🎄 03:46, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Signature

Hi James. I noticed your signature still specifies your old username. Just a friendly note! -- ferret (talk) 01:52, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I fixed it now I think. --Regards, James(talk/contribs) 08:13, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Chambers of commerce

After nominating the one you voted on, I started looking at some other articles on chambers. Mind I didn't do any research, but on the surface, I only found 2 in the whole country that meet ORG with what's on the page. (Omaha and Gwinnett County, GA). Chicago's main chamber was so bad I stubbed it and am still tempted to AfD it. Thoughts? John from Idegon (talk) 08:54, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Given the inherently promotional nature of CCs, I would not be surprised if many of these articles are ads created by COI editors. However, it is possible that some of these organisations in large cities may have notable media coverage due to their political activities. I will take a look at the category in the near future. --Regards, James(talk/contribs) 06:40, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, James. I did go ahead and nominate a couple of glaringly bad ones. Not gonna tell ya which lest some wikilawyer say I'm canvassing. Merry Christmas and happy editing! John from Idegon (talk) 06:43, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict of Interest

James, I do not have a conflict of interest in regards to SSCCC. Merry Christmas! Hopscotcher3 (talk) 03:11, 24 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your concerns about the SSCCC article

James, you are right; the article about SSCCC "may be confusing or unclear to readers". SSCCC is in the process of transitioning from a "student body organization" to a corporation. As that transition proceeds, progressively more information about the corporation will be added to the article and most of the information about the unincorporated SSCCC will be deleted.

SSCCC will hold a "General Assembly" meeting in the spring of 2016. That meeting will probably be attended by about 400 people. They will consider adopting bylaws for their new corporation. Thereafter, they will repeal the bylaws of the unincorporated SSCCC. At that point, most of the information about the unincorporated SSCCC can be deleted from the Wikipedia article.

SSCCC recently applied for recognition that it is exempt from federal income tax. And SSCCC recently registered with the California Attorney General's Registry of Charitable Trusts. SSCCC is in the process of negotiating a "Memorandum of Understanding" with the Chancellor of the California Community Colleges. At some point, SSCCC may be recognized by the Board of Governors of the California Community Colleges as a "statewide community college student organization".

The students have many more legal hoops to jump through before they have completed their transition and become recognized by the Board of Governors. So please be patient. The article about SSCCC will gradually become better organized and more concise. Hopscotcher3 (talk) 23:33, 25 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Information about this organisation's past should not be removed. That is a violation of WP:RECENTISM and comes across as promotional. I appreciate the contributions by a series of single-purpose accounts to this article, but they need to be thoroughly rewritten for encyclopedic tone, and information about the organisation's past that has been removed should be restored. --Regards, James(talk/contribs) 05:16, 26 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that information about SSCCC's past should be preserved. However, that organization's existence only goes back to April 29, 2015 (the date of its incorporation). Information about the predecessor organization (established in 2006) is relevant to understanding how the incorporated SSCCC came into existence. But all of the information about the governing documents of the old SSCCC is going to be superseded when the new (incorporated) SSCCC adopts one or two or three dozen pages of bylaws that are compatible with the Nonprofit Public Benefit Corporation Law and with the Articles of Incorporation of Student Senate for California Community Colleges. Those new bylaws will probably be adopted in April or May, 2016.
Information about the "Student Senate", a predecessor of the unincorporated SSCCC, started accumulating before 2006. California Student Association of Community Colleges (CalSACC) had a "policy board" named "Student Senate". Fragments of information about that board are scattered across the Internet but verifiable information is very scarce, so I do not intend to include any of those fragments in the article about SSCCC. Do you know any "old timers" who remember CalSACC's "Student Senate"? They might know where verifiable information can be found. It might be published in community college student newspapers. I believe that it would be appropriate to include that kind of verifiable information in the article. Hopscotcher3 (talk) 20:07, 26 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
James, I found a news report about the establishment of the unincorporated SSCCC in 2006. I added a reference about that news report to the Wikipedia page about SSCCC. I will check other college newspapers. Maybe I will find reports about the CalSACC policy board named "Student Senate". That kind of information would help to put the incorporated SSCCC into its historical context. Hopscotcher3 (talk) 22:45, 26 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Clarification request

I must admit, I'm confused by this – could you explain in more detail why using the state/location as the disambiguator is disfavored in this case? East Ontario station, as an article title, is already disambiguated on its own, so I don't understand why its existence means that Ontario station (California) is the "wrong" choice... TIA. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 22:34, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The California title (i.e., "a train station in Ontario, California") is still ambiguous as there are still two train stations in Ontario, California, that the title could refer to. --Regards, James(talk/contribs) 18:14, 7 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I was undecided about this, due to the fact that the stations do not have the same name. Because one is "Ontario, CA" and the other one is "East Ontario", the disambiguation of California seemed appropriate to me. I have come to realize that locally the best way to distinguish between them is by calling one the Amtrak station. That works, and the redirect is still there. Secondarywaltz (talk) 20:07, 7 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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PlayStation Network

Hello James, can you kindly explain the {{Advert inline}} on PlayStation Network. Attribution was improved and the previously deleted text is now almost completely enclosed with inverted commas. These brief remarks were expressed the same day Sony officially unveiled the PlayStation Network to the press. It doesn't seem improper to include some historic detail and short quotation setting forth the purpose of the PlayStation Network. If I'm missing something else, I will attempt to correct it. — TPX 23:39, 7 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

As I've explained in edit summary, the language is fundamentally unencyclopedic, extraneous and promotional, period. It doesn't matter whether it's in quotes or not, Wikipedia is not a promotional press release site; our job is to describe what happened (PSN was announced), not what some unnamed marketing employee wrote. Please do not remove maintenance tags without discussion. --Regards, James(talk/contribs) 19:43, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

CSUMB tag

Why don't you help contribute to fix the problem instead of reverting? ❄ Corkythehornetfan ❄ 19:55, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your suggestion. I'll take it into consideration. --Regards, James(talk/contribs) 20:04, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Or at least point out the specific wording so the user can get it fixed. They are wanting to help clean the article up. ❄ Corkythehornetfan ❄ 20:08, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi James: knowing the specific wording would be helpful. I made a further edit to make the language more neutral. Thanks. Scottwithcsumbnews (talk) 17:54, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the tag. --Regards, James(talk/contribs) 20:03, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

SSCCC article issues

James, does the lead section of the article about SSCCC comply with Wikipedia's layout guidelines? Is the lead section confusing or unclear? Does the lead section contain an excessive amount of intricate detail? Is the lead section too technical for most readers to understand? Does the lead section contain external links that may not follow Wikipedia's policies or guidelines? It would be helpful if you would identify such problems. Hopscotcher3 (talk) 22:24, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have already noted my concerns on the article's talk page, and I believe the discussion would be best had there. As I have stated, the contributions of a number of SPAs are in an overly legalistic tone and style that is unencyclopedic, the sources used are not reliable as required by policy, and the use of external links within the text of the article (this includes the infobox) is not appropriate. --Regards, James(talk/contribs) 20:14, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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January 2016

Hi James, thanks for your message on [[1]]. I am surprised by your readiness to remove an edit you can at least see as not being destructive. Were you sure it was not constructive ? The https link does not work on my computer / browser. Moreover, this webcomic mentions on each page a "Permanent link to this comic" which read "http://". So I will modify https to http again, hoping that if the correction is removed again, it will be for a better reason than my not being connected, my limited number of edits, or a lack of verification. It is sad to think that other corrections such as this one are removed on a regular basis.

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