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Is there a better image to use in the intro? The current poster is a floating head poster, which is kind of bland looking. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 19:03, 15 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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-== Awards ==
-This website provides a comprehensive list of every award this film was nominated for [http://www.movie-collection.com/movie/the-fifth-element/awards]. I'm not sure if it meets [[WP:RS]], but if for nothing else i've found it very handy as a way of knowing what awards to search for better references for. [[User:Freikorp|Freikorp]] ([[User talk:Freikorp|talk]]) 06:27, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
-:I've since used the above reference, along with the reference mentioned below that is used to back up that the film won a Bogey award, an inline citations that the film was nominated for an additional 4 Cesar awards (the article had good references for the 3 Cesar awards it won, just no other references for the other 4 nominations). If both of these sources are deemed to be unreliable I will simply remove both of them and the mentions that the film received the additional 4 Cesar nominations. [[User:Freikorp|Freikorp]] ([[User talk:Freikorp|talk]]) 01:07, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
-:The Cesar Awards now list all their previous nomination and winners on their official website - so i've ditched the old, questionable reference and cited their official website instead. [[User:Freikorp|Freikorp]] ([[User talk:Freikorp|talk]]) 10:26, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
-This reliable reference states the film won a [[Lumière Award]]: [http://movies.msn.com/movies/movie-awards-and-nominations/the-fifth-element/?ipp=15], I'm just in the process or determining whether this award itself meets notability guidelines. [[User:Freikorp|Freikorp]] ([[User talk:Freikorp|talk]]) 02:18, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
-:I'm almost certain the Lumière Award and the [[Prix Lumière]] are in fact, the same award, and until I am told otherwise I am linking the award in the article to Prix Lumière. [[User:Freikorp|Freikorp]] ([[User talk:Freikorp|talk]]) 01:55, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
-:They were the same award. Someone else has merged the articles. [[User:Freikorp|Freikorp]] ([[User talk:Freikorp|talk]]) 10:22, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
-Awards this film supposedly was nominated for or won currently not mentioned in the article:
-*Nominated for the [[Italian National Syndicate of Film Journalists]] Silver Ribbon award for Best Foreign Director (according to IMDb [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119116/awards?ref_=tt_awd])
-*<strike>Nominated for the [[Blockbuster Entertainment Award]] for Favorite Female Newcomer (Milla Jovovich)</strike> Found reference.
-*It won the [[Bogey Award]] in Silver - According to IMDb and these not so reliable sources [http://cinedat.org/filme/das_fuenfte_element][http://okino.ru/film/awards/8062][http://www.eofftv.com/c/cin/cinquieme_element%20_main.htm]. [[User:Freikorp|Freikorp]] ([[User talk:Freikorp|talk]]) 01:55, 19 May 2013 (UTC) The award itself is also of debated notability.
-*The film received 12 nominations at the 1997 [[Online Film & Television Association]] awards, 2 of which it won. [http://ofta.oscarguy.com/Awards/Film/1997.html]. Once again, the award itself is not tremendously notable. [[User:Freikorp|Freikorp]] ([[User talk:Freikorp|talk]]) 10:22, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
-== Themes (Gender) ==
-I gather from this section that this film is bad and stuff, because it "erases" women and reinforces gender stereotypes, through the nefarious means of ''featuring men and women in various roles, some of whom are competent or interesting, and some who are not''.  Sheesh.  These opinions are referenced, but are they notable?  Because if not, then this section is devoting a lot of text to saying stuff that is not only absurd (in my opinion), but fringe. [[User:Wardog|Iapetus]] ([[User talk:Wardog|talk]]) 12:49, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
-:I had trouble finding information on themes for this film; this is pretty much all I could come up with. That being said, I don't think there's anything wrong with the gender comments. It's only one paragraph and it contains two sources; one from a notable feminist journal and one from a notable academic publisher. Perhaps the feminist journal could be considered fringe, but I don't think they are given undue weight, and they make observations similar to a book from a mainstream academic publisher. I don't think the take home message from this film paragraph is that it's 'bad', I just accept that it plays into some gender stereotypes. Knowing that doesn't make me enjoy the film any less. If anyone else can find reliable sources on other themes in the film I would be more than happy to write new paragraphs based on the sources myself, so that the gender paragraph has less prominence in the themes section. I would like to hear more opinions on this though. [[User:Freikorp|Freikorp]] ([[User talk:Freikorp|talk]]) 13:10, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
-::I agree that the critique is unfair and invalid, but if there aren't any other scholarly analyses, what are you gonna do? [[User:Brutannica|Brutannica]] ([[User talk:Brutannica|talk]]) 15:19, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
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