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Move review request 1 February 2018

It has been proposed in this section that Paul Hermann (composer) be renamed and moved to Pál Hermann.

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Paul Hermann (composer) → Pál Hermann – Pál (or Paul) Hermann (this article) is a Hungarian musician/composer who happens to have the same Anglicized name as a German botanist (Paul Hermann) and a Nazi composer/poet (apparently whose sole notable work is Es ist für uns eine Zeit angekommen), and there is also German speed skater Paul Herrmann to consider in this discussion. Because of the Nazi poet, the use of (composer) as a disambiguator is insufficient; I suggest:

this article's title should be Pál Hermann per WP:NATURALDAB with Paul Hermann (Hungarian composer) and Paul Hermann (musician) as redirects;
the Nazi composer should have Paul Hermann (Nazi composer) and Paul Hermann (poet) as redirects to Es ist für uns eine Zeit angekommen;
Paul Hermann (composer) should be a disambiguation page, or a redirect to a Paul Hermann WP:APO page;
Paul Hermann (speed skater) should be a {{R from incorrect name}} redirect to Paul Herrmann.

-- Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 14:18, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm bringing this from a move review request opened today, which I requested to close because there has not actually been a move discussion, however there is an apparent move war in progress between the current title and the proposed title, thus I am opening a discussion although I've not done much research on the subject. I am leaving the page unprotected for now but do not take that as an invitation to continue move-warring. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 14:18, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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+== Move review request 1 February 2018 ==
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+[[:Paul Hermann (composer)]] → {{no redirect|Pál Hermann}} – Pál (or Paul) Hermann (this article) is a Hungarian musician/composer who happens to have the same Anglicized name as a German botanist ([[Paul Hermann]]) and a Nazi composer/poet (apparently whose sole notable work is [[Es ist für uns eine Zeit angekommen]]), and there is also German speed skater [[Paul Herrmann]] to consider in this discussion. Because of the Nazi poet, the use of (composer) as a disambiguator is insufficient; I suggest:
+*this article's title should be Pál Hermann per [[WP:NATURALDAB]] with {{no redirect|1=Paul Hermann (Hungarian composer)}} and {{no redirect|1=Paul Hermann (musician)}} as redirects;
+*the Nazi composer should have {{no redirect|1=Paul Hermann (Nazi composer)}} and {{no redirect|1=Paul Hermann (poet)}} as redirects to [[Es ist für uns eine Zeit angekommen]];
+*[[Paul Hermann (composer)]] should be a disambiguation page, or a redirect to a Paul Hermann [[WP:APO]] page;
+*{{no redirect|1=Paul Hermann (speed skater)}} should be a {{tl|R from incorrect name}} redirect to [[Paul Herrmann]].
+-- [[User:Ivanvector|Ivanvector]] (<sup>[[User talk:Ivanvector|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Ivanvector|Edits]]</sub>) 14:18, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
+I'm bringing this from a move review request opened today, which I requested to close because there has not actually been a move discussion, however there is an apparent move war in progress between the current title and the proposed title, thus I am opening a discussion although I've not done much research on the subject. I am leaving the page unprotected for now but do not take that as an invitation to continue move-warring. [[User:Ivanvector|Ivanvector]] (<sup>[[User talk:Ivanvector|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Ivanvector|Edits]]</sub>) 14:18, 1 February 2018 (UTC)