Talk:DC Extended Universe

Blackhawk AGAIN

Hey everyone! We apparently previously had the consensus reached that this film was not going to be associated with the DCEU simply because not enough sources had stated as much. Since its announcement, there are now various/numerous reliable sources discussing Speilberg joining the DC Film universe, and discussing how the DCEU has hired excellent directors in recent months. All of these things indicate that the movie will indeed be a part of the shared film universe. Because of this I have added the film several times only for it to be reverted. You can see the references I included in my edit where I had included the film on the page. Bringing discussion here, as editors are beginning to argue.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 15:14, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

• User:TheJoebro64 & User:OhsalveelCesar, I am 'pinging' you to this discussion as you both have expressed opposition to the addition of this project to the DCEU article. Your input is valued and needs to be voiced here. Have you both read the reliable sources that I had included in my edits, that now state Blackhawk as being DCEU?--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 21:40, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
  • The only source you added that said it was in the DCEU was the Geek.com one, but I think it's obviously making an assumption. Furthermore, I haven't seen any new sources about Blackhawk since it was announced. We shouldn't just be adding films because they're DC-related and in development; we should only add films that have been explicitly confirmed to be DCEU. For example, a movie based on The Sandman has been in development since around 2013 but shouldn't be listed here because it's unclear if it will be set in the DCEU. JOEBRO64 23:10, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
    • User:TheJoebro64, that's a valid point you make that there have not been any updates since its announcement - but on the contrary there are various sources that state the film is DCEU. I can attach them below if you would care to read them(?). All sources simply state the film as DCEU. I think its assumptious to assume the film is not a part of the DC Films' shared universe, when multiple sources state that it is. Though Sandman has been in development for a long time - no sources state it is a part of the franchise (that I'm aware of at least).--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 05:08, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Conclusion: There has been no further response from editors involved, since the beginning of the month. The film therefore will be included per updated sources stating that the film is a DCEU installment. --DisneyMetalhead (talk) 00:48, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

What? If there's no consensus to change then we don't add it. JOEBRO64 14:23, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

@TheJoebro64: - You didn't respond for the duration of the month, which can mean you no longer have rebuttal. Read each of the sources I have added and then you can further discuss this here.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 05:02, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

The only ones that you added that said it was DCEU were the SyFy one, which we previously established on this talk page was making an assumption, and another that looked unreliable. Since we know WB is planning multiple DC film franchises we can't say that this will be DCEU. Also stop arguing that Wonder Woman proves it's DCEU because one actor character is a Blackhawk Squadron member, that's your original research based on someone's random tweet. JOEBRO64 12:45, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

@TheJoebro64: - no, I was doing zero WP:OR when I stated that the character in Wonder Woman is a member of the Blackhawk squad. That is confirmed by the tweet, as well as articles that have followed. Not to mention, the actor's social media post states "coming soon". In retrospect it's obvious he was talking about the Blackhawk film. Secondly, those are not the only articles that stated the film is DCEU. "DC Extended Universe" is not even an official title for the series. Because of this, the other articles discuss how since Walter Hamada became the new runner of the franchise, they films have added various successful directors - talking at-length about the various directors attached to upcoming films. Did you read each of the articles? Lastly, the studio isn't developing 'multiple DC franchises'. Just the DCEU and then a standalone movie with Joker which comes out next year. There is not second franchise. Should Joker be successful, we may see other one-off films, but Blackhawk is not one of those - given the references which speculated on a second film series stated that it would deal with the darker and more "adult" themes, similar to the DC Black comic book run. --DisneyMetalhead (talk) 07:22, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

"DCEU"

I think it was wise for Warner Bros/DC to not make DCEU "official" and canon. It opens up the door for other films, like the Joaquin Phoenix Joker film for side projects outside of the shared universe.

Commentary aside, on question though. Is "gotham City Sirens" official? Blue Beetle? Zatanna?

Wasn't the new name "Worlds of DC"? https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/10/09/james-gunn-snyder-cut-justice-league/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.133.94.176 (talk) 10:25, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Hayholt (talk) 19:42, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

• The only 'official' ones are Gotham City Sirens and Blue Beetle. Both have filmmakers attached and have been covered extensively, as well as confirmed by WB. The Zatanna film is non-existent.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 00:46, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

NOTE: The thread started by "User:Hayholt" has been confirmed to be a sockpuppet account.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 09:25, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

I thought there was something fishy about that account... JOEBRO64 14:20, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Further protection(?)

I hate to suggest this, but it appears that anon users continue to revert and edit the page significantly, without citing any sources for their changes. These anon editors are repeatedly stating WP:OR opinions for their edits, and seem to be working 'together'. Since there has been sock puppetry going on, there is a possibility this will continue. Anyone against further protection of the page?--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 18:08, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

There's no sock puppetry or original research going on here. First, there are absolutely no connections to each of the users reverting you besides the fact that they all disagree with you. That's consensus through editing. Second, the changes they are making are sourced. There are sources in the article that state Cyborg and Green Lantern don't have release dates anymore. And The Flash is likely going to be released in 2021. You constantly reverting these changes and using bogus arguments is a sign of you thinking you own the article. JOEBRO64 20:22, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

@TheJoebro64: - it has already been verified that there was indeed sock puppetry on this article. That's been verified. Next, you may want to take another look at guidelines for WP:OR as it clearly states: "Accusing other editors of owning the article may appear aggressive, and could be perceived as a personal attack. Address the editor in a civil manner, with the same amount of respect you would expect." I have not exhibited any behaviors associated with WP:OR, but rather WP:STEWARDSHIP (which clearly states: "Stewardship or shepherding of an article or group of related articles may be the result of a sincere personal interest in the subject matter."), and was merely stating time and time again that there were no sources added/referenced for the edits that we are now discussing. Furthermore, I have remained neutral and never once stated my own opinion on the matter. Using the references and citations, with only reliable sources has been my comments from the get-go, so take a step back and realize that you're accusing a collaborative editor. Merely looking out for the integrity of the article. Lastly - an article stating that The Flash is "likely" on track for 2021, isn't a very solid argument - as it is not definitive. Also: where are the "references" you are referring to which state that Cyborg and Green Lantern Corps are no longer slated for release?--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 07:35, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Furthermore, the references that you so knowledgeably are now referencing were indeed added after I reverted previous edits. Also - what makes Collider's one article that is not at all studio official confirmation, the defining article what removes two films from their original release dates?--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 07:46, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

The Collider article isn't the only one that says the movies aren't going to be released next year, here are more that say they're not on the schedule or exclude them from it: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6]. I'm not trying to be aggressive, I'm just trying to reason with you. Multiple people disagree with you, but you seem to just ignore them. Also, I didn't realize that Hayholt was a sock, but their edits here were mostly just trying to add the Zatanna movie that's just been rumored; there aren't any socks teaming up against you (trust me, that would be pretty damn obvious) JOEBRO64 20:51, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

DisneyMetalHead should be Banned from editing this page at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.112.229.80 (talk) 10:06, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 January 2019

The Blackhawk movie is in the DCEU. 75.162.130.119 (talk) 03:00, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. -- /Alex/₂₁ 03:56, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

more renovation and development for DCEU

Can you add tables? With awards and nominations for the films ? I see some pages in wikipedia and have tables for this is good if have. And tables for Home media release ? And add pic of lady director of movie Birds of Prey ?