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December 18

Image

I have an updated pic of the North Head Lighthouse in Ilwaco, WA, since it's recent renovation. I do not know how to replace the current pic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lanorrri1 (talk • contribs) 05:12, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

@Lanorrri1: Hello, the best way is probably via Commons. The upload wizard there will guide you throught he steps needed to upload, including licensing and then provide you with a link to use when adding to a Wikipedia article. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 06:37, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Creating an Account...

I am attempting to create a new account and when it comes to the Username, the message "Username entered already in use. Please choose a different name." The username entered and already in use is my username. I never completed Creating my Account when I set out to create the account. Can my account be reset and/or deleted so I can go about creating it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C55:7900:F90:2D6F:4AE:5827:E5AA (talk) 06:23, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

No. That message means that someone beat you creating that account. Please choose a different username. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 06:44, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi IP 2600:6C55:7900:F90:2D6F:4AE:5827:E5AA|2600:6C55:7900:F90:2D6F:4AE:5827:E5AA. If another account using the same username already exists, then you will have to choose another username since accounts (even unused ones, blocked ones, banned ones, etc.) are not deleted for the reasons given in Wikipedia:Usernames#Deleting and merging accounts. If, on the other hand, you are the user who created the account and simply forgot your password, you might be able to reset your password as explained here. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:41, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Meaning of Orange Ribbon

Another meaning of the orange ribbon is that it represents Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy, one form of Chronic Regional Pain Syndrome. I have RSD & I saw it when the RSDA posted the orange ribbon to represent the burning associated with RSD, as well as other forms of Chronic Regional Pain Syndrome. Thank you & have a great holiday & New Year! Fay — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:6000:1014:C037:69D4:C510:BB8D:8474 (talk) 10:43, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello, does this relate to the Wikipedia article Orange ribbon? Can you tell us which country this relates to and also provide a link to somewhere that confirms the information? (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you and for wanting to help. Eagleash (talk) 12:31, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi IP 2604:6000:1014:C037:69D4:C510:BB8D:8474. Probably a better place to discuss such a thing would be at Talk:Orange ribbon, particularly you think it's something which should be considered as an addition to the article. The Help Desk is really intended to answer any general questions you may have about using Wikipedia, whereas the best place to discuss possible improvements to a Wikipedia article is on its corresponding talk page. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:33, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Updated tag removal

Hello all. Yesterday, the WikiProject Yorkshire Clean up page was updated with about 20 MP's with a tag at the bottom stating This article needs to be updated. Please update this article to reflect recent events or newly available information. (December 2019). I have updated the relevant parts of the article, but I cannot find where the tag is to remove it. There is no obvious entry in the log to show when it was inserted, and from best that I can see, there is nothing on either the article or talk page that indicates some sort of parameter to amend so that the tag disappears.

It will be blinding obvious, but at the moment, I can't see it. Help please! Example Holly Lynch. Thanks and regards. The joy of all things (talk) 13:52, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

The tag is actually at Template:Yorkshire and the Humber Labour Party MPs, transcluding to other articles that use it. theinstantmatrix (talk) 14:38, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Theinstantmatrix Thank you - see, I said it would be obvious; I never thought to look at the template. Thanks again. Regards. The joy of all things (talk) 15:03, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Edits

I was editing a meaning and its keeps being taken down even though it is correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coolmanwy (talk • contribs) 15:45, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

@Coolmanwy: When your edits are reverted, you should discuss the situation with the editor who reverted them. The place to discuss is the talk page of the affected atricle. See WP:BRD. In this case, your edit to stands added a very obscure meaning that does not merit its own article and does not even warrant its own section in the linked article, so it's not a good candidate for an entry in a disambiguation page. -Arch dude (talk) 16:33, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

log in and checkin the 365 days

I log in and check the keep me logged in box and everytime i come back to wiki home page I need to log in again? How can i fix this? win 10, firefox browzer — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dlblake (talk • contribs) 15:52, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

@Dlblake: Is it possible that you asked Firefox to delete Cookies on shutdown? check on about:preferences#privacy that the ckeckbox Delete cookies and Website data on shutdown isn't checked, and that a bit more down, when it goes about the list of sites you have visted, that either that list isn't deleted on shutdown, or that Cookies are explicity dechecked in the preferences for that. Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:47, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

How to edit an entry in the References section

The Wiki page below has a References entry (item 23) in which the second half contains a link to factually wrong information taken from an Ebay seller's listing :

https://www.google.com/search?q=wiki+post+office+mauritius&oq=wiki+&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j0l6.2613j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

but when I click the Edit button to remove that link, all I see is "==References== {reflist|30em}"

Is there a way to get access to an editable version of the References?

81.135.135.174 (talk) 16:29, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

entries in that section are built from the "reflist". Each ref is up in the earlier text of the article that points to the ref, enclosed in "ref" tags. To edit a ref, edit the section in which the ref appears. -Arch dude (talk) 16:37, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

When you delete a reference, it would help to explain on that article's Talk page what you're doing and why. —Tamfang (talk) 07:23, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Donations

Why dont you create a public cash app so that people can donate even easier to wikipedia? Then like tweet about it . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8807:8100:62B:80C4:680C:DAEF:7D09 (talk) 17:03, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Suggestions like this should be sent to donate @ wikimedia.org. RudolfRed (talk) 17:38, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Fundraising

Hi. I’ve noticed the fundraising on Wikipedia has gotten more, well, aggressive is the word that comes to mind. I don’t begrudge you that. It’s a valuable service that society needs and should support. And, Wikipedia wouldn’t be Wikipedia if folks’ access to it were limited, especially the access of those who can least afford to financially support it. So, asking for donations makes perfect sense.

But...I very recently donated. And that wasn’t my first time. And I’m still seeing Wikipedia covered up with ads from the top and bottom, asking me to donate.

Might it be possible, using cookies or something else, to give people who consistently and generously donate a breather from the constant requests?

Thank you for your consideration, and for the valuable and democratic service that is Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.216.109.193 (talk) 17:21, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

If you create an account, you can set in your preferences to hide the fundraising banners. RudolfRed (talk) 17:40, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Deleting my biography

I truly do not understand why I can not ask to have a biography about me removed from the site?

The reporting that you site is inaccurate. The event was expunged by the court system in PA and I never took any anger management course yet you insist on keeping that in my bio when it was sourced from a tabloid type newspaper with information not supplied by the court.

What can I do to elevate this problem? Either remove that sentence from my bio or take it down all together.

Respectfully,

Mike Kelly — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:3020:717:FC00:B8C0:4169:9D62:BB38 (talk) 17:46, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

I think that WP:BLPN may be able to help you. RudolfRed (talk) 17:55, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

• Note: Previous discussion at Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2019 December 13#Deleting my biography which also refers to a further discussion at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard/Archive257#Mike Kelly (gridiron_football). Eagleash (talk) 17:59, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Watchlist tag filters

Sup Helpdeskers. D'you happen to know whether it's possible to invert the selected tags? I.e. so that the watchlist excludes them rather than includes them? ——SN54129 18:02, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

You can add something like this to your common.js:

(function(){
  $('.mw-tag-mobile_edit').hide()
})()

but if you have "Group results by page" on this also removes all the other grouped edits, so it's not ideal in that case. There is also this script that hides AutoWikiBrowser edits. ​– Thjarkur (talk) 19:47, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Donate

post a mail address with your request for contributions and I'll contribute cash. Give out my credit card number? NO NO NO — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.44.192.85 (talk) 21:06, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Please see this page for a mailing address if you wish to donate. 331dot (talk) 21:15, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Donation flag

I donated to Wikipedia several weeks ago, and yet I'm still confronted with the locked donation plea. Could this be my setting or am I being punished for being generous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiedron (talk • contribs) 21:13, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

​Go to Preferences → Gadgets → Suppress display of fundraiser banners. – Thjarkur (talk) 00:11, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Television vs Youtube series

In a normal infobox for a television series, there is the option to include the number of episodes. Obvious this is because there are finite episodes for series that have ended, or at least countable episodes for series that are on-going but between seasons. In this case: Good Mythical Morning a YouTube daily series, the episodes are updated daily without source under the "television" infobox template. I may be confused, but I thought WP was not a place to constantly check in and keep an update on an ongoing daily count. I'm forgetting the policy terminology, but I remember seeing it in the past when someone wanted to keep a log that forced editors to continuous update a page; i.e. "As of this date ..." In addition, due to it being YouTube, videos are taken down, blocked, updated, renamed, moved, etc. It is nearly impossible to keep track of these type of series: as can be seen on the "list of episodes" explanation for missing episodes. Please correct me if I am mistaken in this case. It wouldn't be the first time. Maineartists (talk) 22:40, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

@Maineartists: the basic top-level guidance for this is WP:NOTNEWS. Ther may also be Youtube-specific guidelines, but I'm not sure where to look. -Arch dude (talk) 23:04, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

December 19

Log in

How do I recover a lost Username? I could create a new account but would prefer to use the old one if possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:D17D:9F00:1019:6861:9CA9:6A (talk) 01:16, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

If you did not associate an email address with your account, there is nothing that can be done for you to regain access to your old account; you will need to create a new one and identify it as a successor account to your old account. If you associate an email address with your new account, you can recover your password so this sort of thing doesn't happen again. 331dot (talk) 01:24, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Finding the Deletion Article

I would like to know where can I find the article I made which was deleted in speedy deletion criteria? Draft article: Octagon Studio or Octagon Studio Limited

Also, how can I contact the one who deleted the article because I want to reupload it after editing it again.

Another thing is how can I ask for opinion whether my article is already correct and can be published accordingly?

Thank you! [[User:|Mikethepaddingtonbear]] (talk) 05:08, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

@Mikethepaddingtonbear: Hello, there is a redlink at your talk page which points to the 'deleted' draft. There ypu will see links to the talk page of the Admin. who deleted the content. Only Admins. can see deleted content. You can create a new page with substantially different content, but please avoid promotional wording as it will very likely be deleted again. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 05:58, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Possible Page Deletion

Hello,

I have received a message regarding a page I am working on , saying it might soon be deleted. I am new to this and can't find a way to reply to this or get advise on how to reverse this decision.

Can You help me please?

Regards,

Steve — Preceding unsigned comment added by Woodsryan284 (talk • contribs) 05:22, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

@Woodsryan284: Hello, I have moved the page to Draft:Steve Woods (broadcaster). Please continue to develop the article there. Please do not use talk pages to begin new articles; this is against normal operating procedures and can lead to deletion of the page. Please use the article wizard to create new drafts.

On another note, if this is an autobiogrpahy, please read this page and why this is not always a good idea together with WP:COI and WP:PAID (the latter is mandatory) and make any necessary declarations. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 05:42, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Create new page, still under review?

Hi,

Yesterday I created a page for a company, HostNOC (Here is the draft: Draft:HostNOC_Web_Hosting), i want to ask if it is successfully submitted or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xavierjinan (talk • contribs) 06:03, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

@Xavierjinan: I've submitted the draft on your behalf. Note that there is a large backlog of 4-5 months. If you expect compensation for your edits here or have already recieved compensation, you might also want to read WP:PAID Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 06:16, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict)@Xavierjinan: Hello, a review tag has been added to the draft, submitting it for review. This can take up to 16 weeks so please be very patient. In the meantime you can continue to develop the page in draftspace. Please remove anything which might be considered promotional or in praise of the subject. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 06:17, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict)@Xavierjinan: First, the good news: Victor Schmidt mobil submitted it for you. Now the bad news: our volunteers review things when they feel like it, so it can take a long time. And now, the worse news: Your draft will be declined because the article fails to establish that the subject is notable by our definition. If you want to have any chance to avoid this, immediately read (and by this I mean study) WP:NCORP. My guess it that you will not be able to meet this requirement. If I am correct, you will be wasting your time and ours if you continue. No amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability. See WP:AMOUNT. -Arch dude (talk) 06:29, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Content Deleted from my pages

I have edited my page on 14th December 2019. But someone has deleted my contents from my page. Please help me to restore it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kcgnibin (talk • contribs) 09:45, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

From your user name and the fact that you refer to the article as "my page" it seems that you are associated with the article's subject. Before doing anything else please read WP:COI and WP:PAID and ensure that you comply with them. Some of your edits were deleted because they were recognised as violations of copyright - please put things in your own words to avoid this. Mikenorton (talk) 10:18, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Question about how wikipedia knows that we are males or females

Hi. I was wondering about something that happened long time ago, an editor in Wikipedia mentioned me in (his/her) talk page. The notification said user:X mentioned you in her talk page. How did Wikipedia know it is her not his? There is no category or userbox in her/his user page or talk page. This is just a question, not important. I am just curious.--SharabSalam (talk) 12:12, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

@SharabSalam: I believe Wikipedia derives that information from the user's 'How do you prefer to be described?' setting in Preferences -> User profile. EDIT: Fx. mangled ping & re-sign. AddWittyNameHere 12:18, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

AddWittyNameHere, thanks! I never noticed that option.--SharabSalam (talk) 12:24, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

SharabSalam, you're welcome! There's enough preference settings that it's pretty easy to overlook some. (It sometimes even happens to me when I know the setting I'm looking for and roughly where it should be...) AddWittyNameHere 12:27, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

How do I get rid of a picture for 1 article but keep it on Wikipedia?

I was wondering how? New3400 (talk) 12:21, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

@New3400: Files (images) have to be uploaded either to Commons or to Wikipedia. They are then linked to so as to display on pages. Removing the code from one page will not delete the image from the project as a whole. Eagleash (talk) 12:34, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

It is worth noting, however, that a non-free image loaded to enwiki is liable to be deleted as an orphan if it isn't used on at least one article. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:48, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Ditto to the above - if an image is free, it should be uploaded to WikiCommons, and it'll stay there. If it's "fair use", it can only be used in articles that the free usage applies. If the article either no longer exists, or doesn't have the picture on anymore, it is no longer fair use, and should be deleted. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:53, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

I think you mean "fair use", Lee Vilenski. --ColinFine (talk) 17:09, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

I did. I have zero idea why I put free use. That would be the exact opposite. I'll change. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:37, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

@New3400: Please identify the picture and article so we can see the circumstances. As the edit notice for this page says: "If possible, please be specific in your question rather than general and link to any page or article your question involves, or at least tell us the title of the page." PrimeHunter (talk) 17:06, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

My Wikipedia

Hi Team.

My profile on wikipedia information is incorrect and has a different profile picture.

I have set up an account to change the information to the correct information but its not allowing me to remove this photo.

I am Ryan Edgar. But the account information is wrong including this photo that has appeared

Please let me know if you can make this change for me. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by MRRYEDGAR10 (talk • contribs) 14:14, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

MRRYEDGAR10 The article in question, Ryan Edgar does not have a photo. Are you by any chance referring to the photo that appears on the right of a Google search for Ryan Edgar? If so, Wikipedia has no control over that, and Google draws that information from a variety of sources. You can click on the link that says "Feedback" under their Knowledge graph and report the error to them. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 14:19, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

D.O.B

This article has my correct D.O.B

https://www.eurosport.com/football/ryan-edgar_prs198177/person.shtml — Preceding unsigned comment added by MRRYEDGAR10 (talk • contribs) 15:12, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

My D.O.B is incorrect.

Please update as im not allowed to updated my own profile.

My D.O.B is 26 February 1986 — Preceding unsigned comment added by MRRYEDGAR10 (talk • contribs) 14:25, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

MRRYEDGAR10, is there a published source with the correct date of birth? Information in Wikipedia needs to be verifiable, in other words, readers need to be able to look at our sources and verify that they say what we say they say. We cannot take your word for it, either that you are the subject of the article or that your date of birth is when you say it is. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 14:28, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Im not understanding?

The information you have is wrong.

I can send you my ID and copy of my passport which has my photo and D.O.B

How can we resolve this asap? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MRRYEDGAR10 (talk • contribs) 14:33, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

1. Please don't begin a new topic for every response. You can click on the little "edit" button by the last header to add to that conversation.
2. For future reference, this type of conversation should be held at Talk:Ryan Edgar. Use {{request edit}} (just like that with the curly brackets) to get people's attention. That said, it's fine here now.
3. Please don't send anyone your ID or a copy of your passport. Like I said, Wikipedia's rules require information to be verifiable, in other words, readers need to be able to check our sources. The date of birth currently in the article came from "Help desk". National Football Teams. Benjamin Strack-Zimmermann. Retrieved 19 December 2019.. If it is incorrect, we can change it if you provide a source (magazine article, news article, website) that has the correct information. If you cannot provide such a source, we might remove the date of birth all together, but it would be better to have correct information if possible. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 14:38, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

@MRRYEDGAR10: Please note that one of the currently cited references, SoccerWay, also has 10 August 1986. I suggest you contact them to correct it (along with national-football-teams.com mentioned above). Once those sites have been corrected, if you'll post to the article talk page Talk:Ryan Edgar as mentioned above, someone should be able to update it. I'll also note that the FIFA site (currently the last cite) has no date of birth; getting it placed there would be sufficient to overrule the sources that have it wrong. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 09:08, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Update Company Logo

Hello, How do I update my company logo? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.113.100.84 (talk) 14:49, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

What is the article in question, and is there a link to the new logo? Also, since it is your company you should not edit the article associated with the company at all. Rather you should use {{edit request}} on the article's talk page to ask someone else to make the changes. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 14:53, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Contributing

Can you allow us to donate using Apple Pay? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.194.178.53 (talk) 15:56, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

This page includes ways to donate. I don't see Apple Pay on the list. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 16:45, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

1067th Engineer Constuction Group

I have around 60 pages to back up my Exhibits A -M. But I have no way of knowing how to get this into my article 1067th Engineer Construction Group.

The part that is the article now has all been hand typed. And as you can imagine 60 + pages would be a impossible task for a one fingered typist as myself.

I do however have the whole article on a flash drive. Of which I have no idea how to get into my existing article. I also have gotten it published in Wikimedia Commons. Again no knowledge of how to move to this article, if at all possible.

90% of my article is backed by either The National Archives in St Louis ( Personnel files sent for and received personally. ) Or College Park ( Unit Files by personal visit to the archives and Copying. ) All files have been de-classified. Most bearing the de-classifying number. The other sources being Wikipedia, Military.Com Unit and Clifton Allen Pratt Family Biography, which could be edited out.

I would like to take a minute of your (all of you ) for taking the time to help me in this project. The 1067th was a small Engineer Company That was conceived towards the end of the war. My father Clifton Allen Pratt had the honor of being it's first commanding officer if only 3 days. He was only a major at the time and they needed someone with more rank. He then became the Exec Officer. Anyway this gives me a chance to bring a small recognition to this small band of men.

Also I would like to wish each of you: A very Merry Christmas. And thanks for any help that I can get to get this published.Aapostal (talk) 16:26, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Aapostal Please don't upload or re-type your 60+ page source! Please read referencing for beginners to understand what we need. Basically, we need to to tell us where you got the information in such a way that we could go to a library or on the internet and retrieve a copy of the documents you used. We don't need you to actually upload the documents themselves. So if it's a magazine or newspaper article that you got the information from we would need:

1. The name of the article
2. The name of the magazine or newspaper
3. The date when it was published
4. What page it was on

~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 16:52, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

@Aapostal: All of your hard work is valuable, but Wikipedia considers it to be "original research". See WP:OR. We cannot accept original research. Instead, you need to find an acceptable venue where you can publish this. If that venue is itself a reliable source, then after it is published you can reference in an article here. An example might be the journal of a military historical society. If you just want to get it out there on the web someplace, then consider other web sites. We have a list at WP:OUT. -Arch dude (talk) 17:02, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

@Aapostal: Courtesy link: Draft:1067th Engineer Construction Group. You may also find guidance and resources at WP:MILHIST. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 09:21, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

About the vote

Hello! Is it necessary a minimum of editions to can to vote? In some Wikis, 300 editions required! Best regards! -- A.WagnerC (talk) 16:51, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

A.WagnerC, No, there is generally no criteria on who can vote in discussions. Although you do require to have registered an account to vote in Requests for adminships, this is the only similar restriction I can think of here. ~~ OxonAlex - talk 16:56, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, OxonAlex! -- A.WagnerC (talk) 17:02, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

But note, A.WagnerC, that while any editor can participate in discussions, most discussions are not determined by number of votes, but by the strength and cogency of the arguments. If one person posts a reasoned argument for something, consonant with Wikipedia's policies, and 100 people post variations on "I vote against this", the one will probably carry the discussion. See WP:Vote. --ColinFine (talk) 17:15, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Yes! Thank you, ColinFine! -- A.WagnerC (talk) 17:33, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Bot assistance

Can a Bot be created to modify a redirect link? Reason: I just moved Godolphin (racing) to Godolphin Racing, LLC that has far too many redirected pages to do by myself. Thank you. Stretchrunner (talk) 16:58, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

I've moved it back again; please read WP:NCCORP. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:02, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Changing the title of a film

Hi there,

I am with the film distributor Bleecker Street and the title of one of our films has changed and I would like to change it on Wikipedia. Could you give some advise on how I can do this? I tried to change it and it immediately reverted back to its old title.

The film is now called Molly (2020 film) but it is now called The Roads Not Taken. You can see it on its IMDb page here: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9411866/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0

The page I need help with is here: Molly_(2020_film)

Thank you,

Troy Bleecker Street — Preceding unsigned comment added by BleeckerStFilms (talk • contribs) 17:55, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

can you show me a source? New3400 (talk) 18:25, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Please, WP:MOVE. Ruslik_Zero 20:21, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

@BleeckerStFilms: Several issues: 1) please do not make this move yourself: see WP:COI. 2) please change your user name, as a "corporate" name is a no-no: see WP:USERNAME. 3)after you get your new username, you are required by our terms of service to declare your status as a paid editor : see WP:PAID. and finally, your must provide a reliable source (WP:RS) for the new name. Imdb is not a reliable source. Don't make the change unless you have such a source. -Arch dude (talk) 22:32, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Template on meta, can I make it work on en-WP?

This one: Template:FR-DonorThanks2019 Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:29, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

​Yes, if you also copy over meta:Template:FR-DonorThanks2019/styles.css – Thjarkur (talk) 20:37, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Why doesn't font size have an effect on the font in my table?

I have three tables side by side:

Date	Piece	Composer
06/14/1917	Trio in Q in F Minor, Op. 73	Arensky
06/14/1917	Synphonie Studies, Op. 13	Schumann

Date	Piece	Composer
08/16/1917	Trio in D Minor, Op. 63	Schumann
08/16/1917	Concerto in A Minor for Violincello, Op. 33	Saint-Saens

Date	Piece	Composer
05/09/1918	Quintette in F Minor	Cesar Franck
07/04/1918	Quartet for Violin, Viola and Cello in E Flat, Op. 16	Beethoven

However no matter what number I put for the font size on all 3 tables, it always comes out the same size when rendered. Acferrad (talk) 19:29, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

You have two "style" attributes in all tables. Only the last one is used. Ruslik_Zero 20:11, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Use semicolon as seperator instead: style="font-size: 65%; display: inline-table;". PrimeHunter (talk) 21:12, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! Acferrad (talk) 23:25, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

@Acferrad: 65% mentioned above is a problem for accessibility. MOS:SMALLTEXT says In no case should the resulting font size of any text drop below 85% of the page's default font size.

If this is about Francesco Ferramosca, I'll note that you're using 95% in the tables there, which seems unnecessary (i.e., it doesn't really save any space). Also, you've used smaller font and line size in the bullet lists below. This sort of thing is really not suggested unless there is an exceptional reason. Wikipedia tries to maintain a consistent style ("look"), which is good for both readers and editors. Different readers use different browsers and browser font settings, screen size and resolution, and WP:SKINs, which all render differently. Any customization you do to make, for example, a table fit on the screen without wrapping, may only work for your particular setup and those like it. It's best to let the wiki software and the browsers do what they do best, which is to render pages appropriately. Thanks. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 09:40, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Yes I discovered 65% was clearly too small (which I couldn't see beforehand as I couldn't get the font-size to render). The only reason I did this was that I thought that the table overshadowed the more important text above, and so decided to try making it smaller (which this does). That goes for the bullets below too which I wanted to have the same line spacing as the text above (they were using paragraph spacing, which they are not). I like the look of it now with these changes, and thankfully the rich wiki syntax allows me to do this. Acferrad (talk) 15:14, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Can somene please review this?

Blaze_(UK_and_Ireland)   One editor is like its not notice, or enough content is not good reason for page to be created. he wants everything on the ONE SUPER BIG page. --Crazyseiko (talk) 23:02, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

That article is certainly a mess. The parenthetical disambiguation of the title indicates it's about a British-Irish thing, but the first sentence refers to a Spanish version of it. And two editors have been edit-warring there, without either trying to discuss the issue on the article's talk page. Deleting the whole mess seems like a clean solution. Maproom (talk) 23:56, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

@Crazyseiko: When you disagree with another editor, start a discussion on the affected article's talk page to attempt ho reach a consensus. Assume good faith (WP:AGF): the other guy is also trying to improve the article. Only after you have tried hard to reach consensus, continue to the process in WP:DISPUTE. -Arch dude (talk) 03:33, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

I pinged both editors about a discussion I started on the talk page to try to end the edit warring. Talk:Blaze_(UK_and_Ireland)

December 20

A recalcitrant book title

I am trying to cite a book. On the title page, the title is given as "In the beginning was the apeiron". I assume that I should capitalize "beginning" and "was", even though they're not capitalized on the title page. Right? Now, how about apeiron? The word is italicized on the title page because it is a transliteration of a non-English word, the ancient Greek term ἄπειρον. If I use {{cite book}}, the title will automatically be italicized; do I somehow preserve the author's typographical distinction between apeiron and the rest of the title? Further, should apeiron be capitalized? Should I use the {{lang}} template for a foreign word, even though it is transliterated? If so, what is the language code for ancient Greek? Peter Brown (talk) 00:38, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

@Peter M. Brown: We won't have guidance for such a special case, so you will need to use your own editorial judgement. I personally favor "In the beginning was the apeiron",(i.e., only the leading cap) as this is what other places on the web seem to use, and leave out any funny language templates. -Arch dude (talk) 00:55, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

@Peter M. Brown: If you are unhappy with that, remember that the {{cite book}} template, like all other templates, are merely conveniences for the editor and you do not have to use them. You can construct a ref without a template that displays exactly what you want it to display. -Arch dude (talk) 00:58, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

I think that 'was' is one of those words that is lowercase in title case and apeiron would be capitalized. In {{cite book}}:

{{cite book |title=In the Beginning was the ''Apeiron'' |first=Adam |last=Drozdek |publisher=Steiner |date= 2008 |isbn=978-3515092586}}

Drozdek, Adam (2008). In the Beginning was the Apeiron. Steiner. ISBN 978-3515092586.

Do not use {{lang}} in cs1|2 template parameters because use of that template will contaminate the metadata produced by the citation template.

{{lang|el-Latn|apeiron}} → apeiron

—Trappist the monk (talk) 01:01, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

I agree with Arch dude; Worldcat.org uses lower-case for the title. Schazjmd (talk) 01:05, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Go with the title page of the book. Worldcat is, like Wikipedia, crowd-sourced and full of errors. DuncanHill (talk) 11:56, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

@Trappist the monk: Per MOS:CT, "was" and other forms of "to be" should be capitalised like other verbs. Hence It Is the Law, He Was a Friend of Mine, etc. Obviously that doesn't apply if the whole title is in sentence case though. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 12:32, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Stop nagging me for donations after I have already donated.

I donated. Way more than $2. Set a f'n cookie and stop bothering me if you want any further donations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.69.79.115 (talk) 01:37, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Since you are just an IP address, Wikipedia has no way to identify that it was you who donated (and in fact it doesn't keep a list of editors who have donated), but if you WP:Create an account, then you can switch off the requests. Dbfirs 02:23, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Help with footnotes

Hello! There is a problem I've been encountering for a while and would like to know how to fix it. When I use Footnotes on an article and then add a template which contains other footnotes, all notes stack at the {{notelist}} linked to the template instead of the one made for the article.

For example, at the 2019–20 Al Ahly SC season article, all footnotes in the article are stacked at the CAF Champions League group stage section where a template is using a {{notelist}} for its notes; while the notes section can be found empty with errors. Is there any solution to fix this error except for changing the notes format from </efn> to group=note?

Thanks in advance! Ben5218 (talk) 08:57, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

The article pulls in the table from the template {{2019–20 CAF Champions League group tables}}. The template generates the tables using the {{#invoke:Sports table|function}} module. That module automatically adds the Notes section if there are notes in the table. So what's happening is that the notes section is being inserted to catch the notes in the table, but is also catching notes from earlier in the article. Hope that explains it. - X201 (talk) 10:07, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

@X201: Hello, and thanks for the reply. Apparently I didn't clarify what do I mean exactly. I understand what causes the problem, but I was wondering if there is a way to avoid it and prevent it from occurring. Ben5218 (talk) 12:21, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

@Ben5218: One possibility is to change all the {{efn}}'s in the article to {{efn-ua}}, and the {{notelist}} to {{notelist-ua}}. This will keep them separate from those in the table. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:06, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks guys, both you. I was wondering if it's possible to keep it in that format and prevent the notes from being inserted into the notelist generated by the template, but apparently it's not possible. So, thanks again! Ben5218 (talk) 15:27, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Translation

Hello,

I'd like to translate the biography of a person that I represent into English and Turkish, from German. How can I do that?

Best regards, Burak — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mburakerol (talk • contribs) 13:46, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Mburakero1 See Wikipedia:Translation. Since you say you represent the person, see also WP:COI and WP:PAID. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 16:52, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

@Mburakerol: Please be aware that the separate Wikipedias are different projects with possibly different rules. This means that we do not speak for the Turkish Wikipedia. It also means that the existence of the German Wikipedia article as no bearing on whether or not we would accept the article here, and in particular the subject must be notable by our definition. See WP:N. We need references to what we define as "reliable sources" (WP:RS). Note that we do not require that those sources be in English, so that may simplify your task. However, it will be harder for our reviewers to assess notability if your sources are not in English, and this might delay a review by our already-overworked volunteers. -Arch dude (talk) 21:15, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Why bulleted?

In Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos article there are bullets (•) present in the infobox. These bullets are of no use, space consuming and against Wikipedia's rule. Can anyone remove those bullets? Both Wikipedia pages are protected so I can't do this. Thanks. (223.230.173.137 (talk) 16:38, 20 December 2019 (UTC))

Could you point us to which rule they are against? They are put there using {{hlist}}, a template which is used on 130,000 pages, often in infoboxes and navboxes. I'm not sure why there would be such a widely used template for something that is "against Wikipedia's rule". ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 16:48, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

@ONUnicorn: This has been brought here as a result of a discussion at Talk:Shamsheer Vayalil#Needs review where it has been disputed that the infobox at the Shamsheer article should contain bullet points; I think, in relation to educational facilities. Editors have said to the OP (our regular Shamsheer edit requester) that the points are not required and they have then gone out of their way to find articles with the bullets and now are trying a different tack. Eagleash (talk) 17:02, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

@Eagleash: Are those bullets in Jeff and Bill articles necessary? Are those bullets not wasting spaces? I think it's not about bullets but only matter of discrimination with us and Indian articles.Many things has been removed by you all from Shamsheer Vayalil's article without any reason or say on sake of fake wikipedia's rule which is not applicable to all articles.I think wikipedia should make a different help desk to post betterment queries related to Indian articles. Feeling really disappointed 😔😔. Thanks. (223.230.173.137 (talk) 03:48, 21 December 2019 (UTC))

Using those little "interpuncts" is a pretty standard practice. Not sure how they waste space? Its not like we have to make articles as small or efficient as possible. The one or two extra bytes of data they add is inconsequential compared to the enormous size of Wikipedia. I get the feeling that this is not about the interpuncts however. You seem to have a much deeper concern/resentment about this article. Folks editing the article seem to be trying to improve it. What about their edits are you unhappy about? Why have you been unable to resolve this on the talk page? Captain Eek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 06:36, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

S. I. Hiyakawa

please create a page/information about the late Mr. S.I. Hiyakawa, a former U.S. Senator from California (circa 1960’s/70’s), former President of San Francisco State College (circa 1960’s), and contributor to studies in General Semantics……… — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrgexcellency (talk • contribs) 17:16, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

@Mrgexcellency: You can post your request at WP:RA, or you can do it yourself by following the guidelines at WP:YFA and using the wizard there to create a draft for review. RudolfRed (talk) 19:31, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

@Mrgexcellency: Did you mean S. I. Hayakawa? -Arch dude (talk) 21:05, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Using Maps from Commons in a Novel?

I've been working on a historical novel for just about forever. I'm finally getting to the point where I'm close to sending it to a publisher or maybe just publishing myself. It's a novel about WWII in the Pacific and the USNs role in some specific battles. I really need a couple maps so readers appreciate the basics of which forces were coming from what direction. I've found a couple of maps in the commons that look pretty good. My question is, if I use those does that mean that the whole novel then has to be freely available? Or would that be fair use since I wouldn't be charging (making a huge leap of faith and assuming I'm able to get anyone to pay to read it) for the maps but the text, but I'm afraid that may still not be within the boundaries of open source use. Is that correct? If I can't use maps from the commons does anyone know of sites where there would be simple maps for major WWII naval battles in the pacific that are in the public domain and that I could use? They don't have to be flashy with lots of colors, those old time maps that look as if they were drawn by hand and are in just black and white would fit right in with the theme of the book (it's fiction but I'm trying to be as historically accurate as possible). Thanks for any feedback, if there is another forum where I should ask this question, please let me know that as well, wasn't sure, this doesn't seem to really fit the Tea House or the Help Desk so I thought I would try here. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 21:57, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

@MadScientistX11: You can use the material, you just need to provide attribution for the source. If you click on the description of the file at Commons, it will show what the license is and you can see what the attribution requirement is. RudolfRed (talk) 22:03, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

(ec):See WP:REUSE and c:Reusing content outside Wikimedia Meters (talk) 22:06, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Carol lake

How do I create a reference regarding this author winning the Guardian newspaper fiction prize in 1989 in an article about her? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.108.34.52 (talk) 22:24, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

First, find a reliable source (WP:RS). This should be fairly easy in this case. Then, go read Help:Referencing for beginners for how to format your reference. then, edit the article using your newfound knowledge. If you are timid, just slap your reference into the article's talk page and ask another editor to format it or come back here, but there is no harm (and much good) in trying to do it yourself, because if you mess it up you (or someone) can undo it and try again. And thanks! -Arch dude (talk) 23:39, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

December 21

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no key

I edited the page on dr Arthur Neve under medical achievements. He was awarded....1901. I want to use the reference 2 for this addition to the text however the text editor inserted it as reference 6 and it is not correcting. Please help — Preceding unsigned comment added by NisarMirDr (talk • contribs) 00:46, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

 Done I pasted this code: <ref name=":2" />. The fact is also sourced here. Seems you forgot a space in your edit. Please remember to use the preview feature, and provide an edit summary. Thank you for your contribution. Wakari07 (talk) 01:09, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

I would love to give money to your company

I would give money to your company. But from when I was in school my professors said i could never use you as a source. Many of the sub sources I tried to use of your would not work. Your "editing" over the decade has become very bias. Can you find a way to be in line with the truth once as yow were in the past? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:741:180:D9C0:E053:FAD2:EBA2:4607 (talk) 01:54, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

A most valuable contribution would be to enumerate such cases where assertions are not backed by verifiable reliable source, so "we" may try to fix them. On "truth", please read WP:TruthWP:Neutral point of view. Wakari07 (talk) 02:09, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Your professors are right to say not to use Wikipedia as a source. That's because we are a tertiary source. In scientific and academic writing, you should only use primary or secondary sources. In fact, we have the same policy. We don't cite ourselves either, only reliable primary and secondary sources (with an emphasis on secondary). We work very hard to minimize bias. But, like all things, we have some bias. But I wager that we are far more neutral, and committed to neutrality, than a wide range of publications. A final note, we aren't a company. The people you talk to here are volunteers, who don't get paid. All the money goes to keep the servers running and to run the Wikimedia foundation, the nonprofit which administers many, many Wikiprojects. You can donate, or not, we don't particularly care. But as Wakari07 says, helping us fix bias by editing is much more valuable. Captain Eek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 06:24, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

How to write a page

I remember a long time ago a interactive tutorial for beginners on how to write a Wikipedia article. I cannot remember where to find it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steveadrehel (talk • contribs) 04:57, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Steveadrehel, You are probably looking for the The Wikipedia Adventure. Hope that helps! Captain Eek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 06:19, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Blocked without reason

I don’t know if this is the right place but I don’t know where or whom I can address my question. Here is the only place I have found. Just accidentaly, today I have found out that I am blocked from editing pages on Wikipedia. Moreover that I have a long history of blockings. How can I find out the exactly reason I have been blocked considering that I have never published any article on Wikipedia neither modified or edited an existed one? I have no way to contact the admin who blocked me, to talk to him or ask him anything. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.137.14.75 (talk) 08:59, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

By posting here, you are evading your block. A reason for the block would be articulated on your user talk page, or in the Block Log(which also appears in a red box at the top of the screen when you attempt to edit). There should be a block notice on your user talk page giving instructions on how to request unblock; if you do not have access to that page, you will need to use WP:UTRS to make your request. Please see WP:AAB for more information on appealing your block. 331dot (talk) 09:04, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Corrections

Why are you deleting the edits that are being done?! What you are doing is helping them hide the truth of what really happened. All information must be posted. There in nothing derogatory or perverse, it is the truth.