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Well, sure I don't really mind. Now changing the subject a little bit, what do you think about the question bellow, about the city of "La Plata" being the first city in Latin America with electric street illumination. --[[user_talk:supaman89|Supaman89]]
Well, sure I don't really mind. Now changing the subject a little bit, what do you think about the question bellow, about the city of "La Plata" being the first city in Latin America with electric street illumination. --[[user_talk:supaman89|Supaman89]]

:Honestly, I do not know. Have you tried to google it? It sounds to me as feasible, since La Plata was made from scratch at the end of the 19th century, as the capital city of the richest province of Argentina, and at a moment of big prosperity in the country. But I ignore the source of the information. We might wait a few days to see if the author replies. If not, a citation needed should be added.--[[User:Diegou|Diegou]] 22:24, 22 December 2006 (UTC)


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-Mariano 09:44, 29 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sport

I've made this less partisan but have not verified what is said. There are very few references in this section which is worrying SuzanneKn 17:49, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Railways in Argentina

I'm copying this from my talk page. The guy has a point, but I'm not sure what to do. The relevant diff is not helpful anyway, and I know next to nothing about this topic, or where to look.

Hola, soy galio de la es: con unos minutos de tiempo libre que no bastan para loguear allá. Cuestión que le pasé una revisada rápida al artículo Argentina en inglés y aparentemente, en algún momento entre la vez anterior que lo leí y esta, alguien modificó el apartado sobre transporte. Donde antes decía que la red ferroviaria cayó en desuso y deterioro notorio desde la liquidación de FA en 1993, hoy dice algo como que "después de décadas de falta de mantenimiento y malos servicios, los ferrocarriles se privatizaron en 1993". No sólo es tendencioso, sino que omite la parte más importante —el hecho de que hubiera trenes hasta el '93 y no después— y para peor es falso.

La cantinela de la falta de mantenimiento es más para Dromi que para una enciclopedia, y aunque desde 1955 las sucesivas administraciones se encargaron de ir destruyendo los ferrocarriles, decir que FA no hacía mantenimiento es una mentira infundada como decir que Gas del Estado no hacía obra. Hasta 1993 los 34.000 kilómetros de vías entonces activos eran operables, con una mayoría de vías en buen estado, servicios de pasajeros a todo el país. Incluso durante los años '80 se hicieron cosas, como la electrificación del Roca, la nueva señalización del Urquiza —que ALL desmanteló—, etc. Perdón que te lime, pero un poco de evidencia empírica para respaldarme no sobra. ¿Podrás hacer algo? Los historiales de la en: me pierden, pero en algún lado está la frase vieja. Saludos y gracias. --200.85.115.19 02:57, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Transportation in Argentina#The railway system is not helpful either, and moreover, it lacks sources and the presentation sounds a bit POV. Please help! —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 18:11, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I guess the diff you cite refers to my edits, where I tried to improve the phrasing of what was written before. I agree that it might sound POV as it stands now, but I don't agree with the statement that the trains disappeared only after the privatization; that's clearly biased without discussing the politics behind the lack of maintenance in the railway system. Long distance trains disappeared long before the privatization in many places, and the fact that sleeper bars made of quebracho were for sale at auctions all over the country I think prevented trains from using the railway, wouldn't it? I couldn't find the version the user talks about, but reading his opinion I think I support the current version over it. -- dockingmantalk 20:28, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
My only problem is the lack of sources. It doesn't matter what our opinion is; we need objective assessments of the state and quality of railways, which is a huge topic in the case of Argentina, and a very significant one as well. If you have sources that you can cite, or people you can consult about this, please put them forth. —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 21:46, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Demographics section

An anon user was moving things around here and I reverted the change. Have a look at the history and see if you want to leave a comment here. I am quite happy with the section as it is, I think. --Guinnog 00:38, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GDP

Hey guys, I keep on seeing people changing the GDP per capita in the table; the changes are reverted very quickly because they are anonymous edits without an edit summary. However, now I see the point of the changes: the data currently in the article looks like the one from 2005, the updated values are in List of countries by GDP (PPP) per capita, 2006 and are actually the ones that editors were adding, but without sourcing. I updated the data and filled the edit summary, hope it's OK. Cheers! -- dockingmantalk 02:41, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good job. Sorry I didn't do it myself, but I'm loosing too much time cheking my overgrown watchlist for vandalism... Mariano(t/c) 10:16, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Pleased to help! -- dockingmantalk 07:13, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Who's playing with the demographics section? / Who change the major ethnic Spanish groups

Someone change the demograohics sections with incorrect information again. Pablo you are the one that keep this articles so well written could you ask for protection against vandalism???.

Someone deleted the info of Galicians Basque and Catalans being the most important ethnic Spanish groups in the country. Who could do that? I changed it again. I think we don't even need sources about that fact do we? Go to the Basque Argentinian official site 10% of the population is Basuqe!! and 80% of the Spanish immigration in the 20th century was Galician!. God! WHo change that?? It couldn't be n Argentinian who pass primary school god!!. I hate people without sources and reliable information who change data. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 190.16.20.183 (talk • contribs) 19:20, 28 November 2006.

I moved your comments down here and signed them for you. Please add new comments at the bottom of the page, and sign them using four tildes (~~~~) so we can keep track of who is saying what and when.
There are many people working to keep this article well-written, not just me, but most of us also have other things to do. It's important that wrong data added to the article can be spotted quickly and removed. The best way to do this, when the data is clearly not correct, is by reverting (see Help:Reverting).
The demographics section of this article has been a problem since... ever. At least on my watch, anything edited in that section and others without a good justification will be reverted as soon as I spot it; but I'm not watching all the time. I could protect the page, but this is not vandalism, it's simply people altering an article to reflect what they believe is true, without taking the time and effort to check the facts. —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 00:21, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll try to revert the text when i see changes. But i've seen how many problems we have had with that section and i like the way it is now. It couldn't be beter and more precise and accurate than this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.232.226.252 (talk • contribs).

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Latter part of article needs major cleanup

Wow, the Sports section is a disaster in format, and the language section has been added with several uncited claims. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by The dugout (talk • contribs) 01:45, 17 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Education

At the end of the first paragraph of that section it says: "Today the country has a literacy rate of 97.5%, comparable to other developed nations" implying that argentina is a developed nation as well, that sentance has to change, what about "Today the country has a literacy rate of 97.5%, which is very good for a developing nation" --Supaman89

Ok, I've fixed the problem. --Supaman89

Supaman, you are right that the sentence implied (incorrectly) that Argentina was a developed country, but I am afraid that the new sentence does not sound encyclopedical. I would propose the following: "Today the country has a literacy rate of 97.5%, comparable to developed nations"; thus, eliminating the word "other" we get to eliminate the implication of Argentina as a developed country (which is not, as it is already very clear in the rest of the article). Do you oppose to such wording? --Diegou 17:36, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mmm what about, "Today the country has a literacy rate of 97.5%, the second highest in Latin America, just after Uruguay" --Supaman89

I think I would be better to settle with "Today the country has a literacy rate of 97.5%". By adding the link to the list of countries by literacy rate, any person can have his own conclusions and we will avoid any dispute on whether Argentina's literacy rate is higher/lower/comparable to any other country. I am correcting the wording in the article.--Diegou 12:00, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, sure I don't really mind. Now changing the subject a little bit, what do you think about the question bellow, about the city of "La Plata" being the first city in Latin America with electric street illumination. --Supaman89

Honestly, I do not know. Have you tried to google it? It sounds to me as feasible, since La Plata was made from scratch at the end of the 19th century, as the capital city of the richest province of Argentina, and at a moment of big prosperity in the country. But I ignore the source of the information. We might wait a few days to see if the author replies. If not, a citation needed should be added.--Diegou 22:24, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Facts, right at the bottom of the page

One of the points in this section states that "The city of La Plata was the first in Latin America with electric street illumination", now I don't wanna question that statement but could someone please put some sources for such fact. --Supaman89

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