User talk:OyMosby

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		Thank you for your for helping and editing numerous articles, for civility in discussion, and for the effort to find a middle ground and solution together. --WEBDuB (talk) 20:46, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks WEBDuB, much appreciate and a surprise!OyMosby (talk) 20:56, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

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Great to be onboard!OyMosby (talk) 06:25, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

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need a reference for Vojvodina article

Hi OsMosby : in your edit on 13 June this year, on a section where you added details of "19,573 people were killed in Bačka", you have not provided a proper reference. Can you please expand in the reference ref name Ćurčić ? Thanks Matilda Maniac (talk) 01:47, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

@Matilda Maniac: Slobodan Ćurčić, Broj stanovnika Vojvodine, Novi Sad, 1996 (pages 42, 43). This was a while ago so surprised to see this. I thought I put the page numbers down. OyMosby (talk) 02:24, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

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/Voted! Thanks. OyMosby (talk) 03:12, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Thank you for your message, OyMosby. Have a Happy New Year! Hopefully this year will be much better. I wish you and your family health and success in all of your endeavours in 2021. If you need literature or anything on ex Yugo artists - I can help you with that. cheers Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 16:36, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Duchy of Pannonian Croatia

Hi, OyMosby. You've merged this page, but that's not what was exactly said neither on the Talk page of Pannonian Slavs nor in the sources. Furthermore, you've deleted sources talking about Pannonian Croatia ([1], Prosvjeta). The merger is not appropriate, because Pannonian Slavs or (newly constructed) Slavs in Lower Pannonia are terms too wide to describe not a tribe or nation, but a COUNTRY (whether duchy or principality or whatever), although vassal (under the supreme Frankish rule), which is in historiography used to be called Duchy of Pannonian Croatia or as another similar term. Maybe you haven't heard of it, but there are various sources in Croatian language. So, please, let it stay as it had been so far or find another, more accurate and specific name. Greetings, --Silverije 19:55, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer. Of course I’ve read the talk page of the newly created article Slavs in Lower Pannonia. It’s not quite understandable, at least the parts of it, but still I can repeat and explain the main points I wrote to you:

1. You've deleted sources talking about Pannonian Croatia ([2], [3]).
2. The merger is not appropriate because Pannonian Slavs or Slavs in Lower Pannonia are terms too wide to describe not a tribe or nation, but a COUNTRY (whether duchy or principality). I wanted to say that “Pannonian Slavs” is a term appropriate for describing a tribe, group of tribes or nation. On the contrary, this term is NOT appropriate for describing a COUNTRY, whether it is called Duchy of Pannonian Croatia or Principality of Lower Pannonia. It’s a big difference.
3. Maybe you haven't heard of the Duchy of Pannonian Croatia, but there are various sources in Croatian language, including that one.

It seems that in the present article only the sources that mention Slavs in Lower Pannonia are cited, and others are ignored.

Let me say that there are similar articles dealing with medieval history of modern nations who carry different names (e.g. Grand Principality of Serbia). Should we rename it to “Slavs in Raška” or so? Please, think about it.

So, if anybody mergers or renames such articles, he must think about that they should be more accurate and more specific. Otherwise, such wide, generalized, “conglomerate” article cannot be acceptable for such purpose. Greetings, --Silverije 23:58, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

93.142.78.117 (talk) 14:47, 7 January 2021 (UTC)== Hi ==

Hi OyMosby! You are an expert in military history can you join the discussion here [[4]]. These are changes [[5]]. And on this second page a lot of it has been deleted, so if you can check. [[6]]. These are changes [[7]]. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.142.78.117 (talk) 11:52, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

In the fist one the guy is clearly as sockpuppeting account edit warring with multiple people disagree with them. To say “ Plan was not "greater Serbia" (term which itself is wrong translation) but to rescue surrounded JNA soldiers in Vukovar and to help citizens who were terorrised by a local Croat group.” is incredibly biased and pov. It was a military disaster as they had major losses for what was to be an easy takeover. Then the Vukovar massacres are an extra element. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were a sock of the second page you linked l. That editor was blocked for sockpuppeting. I undid their deletion of sourced content. I’m amazed it went unnoticed for so long. I undid the edit.

Also have you considered making an account to make it easier to have your own talk page? Also people will respect your edits more if have an account rather a random IP address. Cheers, OyMosby (talk) 14:38, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

I'm not an expert on all this, but I've been browsing some pages on eng wikipedia and the admins they edit, so I asked you to take a look at those pages. Maybe I'll make an acc, but I'm still just reading. Thanks93.142.78.117 (talk) 14:48, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

I fixed the Genocide section here as genocide was not committed “by all sides” during the 90’s conflict. Ethnic cleansing and massacres however were. Also fixed that unnoticed mess. It was very misleading. Also the linked massacres, some were poorly done. One had no stats on victims.OyMosby (talk) 15:17, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

I will likely have to get admins involved if the suspected user continues edit warring as well. OyMosby (talk) 15:25, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

All right, you admins know best how to edit and talk to other editors on the talk page. I don't really know how to work with a computer like you, and I don't really know English. Goodbye and Thank you93.142.78.117 (talk) 15:27, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

I’m not an admin. Just an editor. There are admin boards you can seek for help with problematic editors. You seem like a very well spoken a technically capable editor. You are welcomed to make an account and engage in the community! Cheers.OyMosby (talk) 15:34, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Okay now I know the difference between an admin and a user, I know little about the computer for now just reading. Bye.