Talk:Paul Hermann (composer)

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Move review request 1 February 2018

It has been proposed in this section that Paul Hermann (composer) be renamed and moved to Pál Hermann.

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Paul Hermann (composer) → Pál Hermann – Pál (or Paul) Hermann (this article) is a Hungarian musician/composer who happens to have the same Anglicized name as a German botanist (Paul Hermann) and a Nazi composer/poet (apparently whose sole notable work is Es ist für uns eine Zeit angekommen), and there is also German speed skater Paul Herrmann to consider in this discussion. Because of the Nazi poet, the use of (composer) as a disambiguator is insufficient; I suggest:

this article's title should be Pál Hermann per WP:NATURALDAB with Paul Hermann (Hungarian composer) and Paul Hermann (musician) as redirects;
the Nazi composer should have Paul Hermann (Nazi composer) and Paul Hermann (poet) as redirects to Es ist für uns eine Zeit angekommen;
Paul Hermann (composer) should be a disambiguation page, or a redirect to a Paul Hermann WP:APO page;
Paul Hermann (speed skater) should be a {{R from incorrect name}} redirect to Paul Herrmann.

-- Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 14:18, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm bringing this from a move review request opened today, which I requested to close because there has not actually been a move discussion, however there is an apparent move war in progress between the current title and the proposed title, thus I am opening a discussion although I've not done much research on the subject. I am leaving the page unprotected for now but do not take that as an invitation to continue move-warring. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 14:18, 1 February 2018 (UTC) courtesy ping active participants: @Kleuske: @Pvangastel: Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 14:19, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support per researched and detailed nomination. Since there is no indication that Pál Hermann used "Paul Hermann" as his professional name on an international scale, the Western-order Hungarian form of his birth name should be this article's main title header, with Pal Hermann which, as of this writing, is a redlink, created as a redirect, alongside other currently redlinked forms Pal Herman and Pál Herman. A hatnote or a disambiguation page section header "See also" may also specify the alternatively-spelled name Paul Herman. As for the author of "Es ist für uns eine Zeit angekommen", the qualifier may also be "(German composer)", unless there is a specific indication of his membership in the National Socialist Party. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 17:03, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]