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Welcome to my talk page I use the name Cullen328 on Wikipedia, but you can call me "Jim" because that's my real first name. If you want to start a new conversation, please click "New section" at the top of this page. I keep the old comments from July and August of 2009 that follow the "Contents" here, because these friendly words of greeting made me feel welcome when I first started editing Wikipedia.
The importance of a friendly greeting
Hello and welcome to my talk page. If you want to start a new conversation, please click "New section" at the top of this page. I keep the comments that follow from July and August of 2009 readily visible, because these friendly words of greeting made me feel welcome here on Wikipedia when I first started editing. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 17:38, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
Please offer your thoughts
I would appreciate comments and suggestions on any contributions I make. I am learning.Cullen328 (talk) 03:22, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- Nice work on Jules Eichorn. He's been needing an article for a while. Will Beback talk 06:28, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
- If I may suggest, now that you've posted the Eichorn article the draft below might be deleted. It's your talk page to do with as you like, but it's a bit hard to edit around.
- As for formatting and pictures, a good way to learn is to look around at other articles to see what you think looks best. It can be helpful to break up long blocks of text into subsections. Perhaps it'd be possible to split the biography into two or three eras. Other than that, the formatting is usually kept fairly plain. As for photos, it's easy to upload them: the trick is in finding photos with appropriate licensing. If you have any personal photos then those'd be fine. There are might be pictures of the peaks he did first ascents on in the Wikicommons. File:Cathedral Peak.png is a so-so pic of Eichorn Pinnacle.
- As before, feel free to ask if you have any questions. There are several editors here who are mountaineers or just admirers of the Sierra, so you're in good company. Will Beback talk 21:13, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
- PS: Many editors create "sandbox" pages for drafting articles. For example, User talk:Cullen328/Sandbox. Will Beback talk 00:17, 1 August 2009
Your climber biographies
Hey Jim, just wanted to say welcome and thanks for your contributions to the Sierra Nevada climbing history articles. You're filling a niche that's been missing here, I look forward to working with you. --Justin (talk) 11:54, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
- I'll second that. Nice work on Allen Steck and welcome to Wikipedia. I don't know who you are planning to write up next but if your taking requests I think Peter Croft (climber) could really use a page. If you ever have any questions please ask. Thanks again for your great additions.--OMCV (talk) 02:25, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks Justin and OMCV. I am beginning work on Tom Frost and Glen Dawson. Comments on Norman Clyde would be welcomed. I will defintely read up on Peter Croft, OMCV. I am still "learning the ropes" in Wikipedia, to use a climbing analogy, and have all sorts of things in mind. My biggest challenge right now is getting permission to use images. My next biggest challenge is hiking to the top of Mt. Whitney with my wife in ten days - she's never been above 12,000 feet except for the train ride up Pikes Peak. As she's 56 and developing arthritis in her toes, it will be an accomplishment if she (and I) complete the Class 1 feat. Jim Heaphy (talk) 02:34, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
- Debra and I made it to the summit of Mt. Whitney at 2:20 PM on Friday, September 11. Jim Heaphy (talk) 00:59, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
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Happy New Year
Happy New Year 2021 I hope your New Year holiday is enjoyable and the coming year is much better than the one we are leaving behind. Best wishes from Los Angeles. // Timothy :: talk |
working on a new page
hello jim, hope you are doing well. i am a beginner on wikipedia but i am auto correction user. i want to write an article on a ngo which is working very good in there respective field. a friend of mine wrote a article on that topic but it got deleted due to less third party source. can you suggest me something how to write an article which won't get deleted, also i have some credible third party source so i want to ask how can i mention them because they are external links. Devanshusharma569 (talk)devanshusharma569
Happy St. Patrick's Day
Happy St. Patrick's Day! I hope your St. Patrick's Day is enjoyable and safe. Hopefully next year there will be more festive celebrations. Best wishes from Los Angeles. // Timothy :: talk |
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Request of Help on "Just the Facts" Tone
Hi Jim,
I am very new to Wikipedia. I got your feedback on the draft article located under PhoCoHaNoi. Thanks so much for your comments. I would greatly appreciate if you would spare some valuable time to highlight those parts from the draft that I need to pay close attentions to regarding the aspect that you raised. I know it would be a long shot to ask if you would even consider providing specific examples by directly editing them on the draft.
Lastly, I still do not know on how to submit the revision for review. I do not see any obvious buttons or pull-down menus from the Sandbox setting that would be able to allow to submit the article for review.
Thank you so much.
PhoCoHaNoi
- Hello, PhoCoHaNoi. I am not going to edit the draft myself, because I want this to be a learning exercise for you. Here are a few examples of unacceptable wording:
- "celebrating the 73-year history of outstanding men and women"
- "pioneering contributions"
- "sustained leadership and strategic vision"
- "Exceptional services to innovation ecosystem"
- "stimulating small business innovation, meeting the Air Force and DoD R&D needs, broadening participation in innovation and entrepreneurship, and boosting commercialization"
- " So, as Dr. Pham looked back now, he brought systems-theoretic science and control engineering principles, together with teamwork and interdisciplinary to bear fruition in solving warfighter engineering problems, various areas of specific focus for increased activities in space control autonomy and space domain awareness."
- It is not the job of a Wikipedia editor (you) to praise a person. Every trace of this non-neutral language must be removed. A Wikipedia article should never say "Person A is great!" Instead, it should say "Reliable source C reports that Expert B says that Person A is great", along with a reference to Reliable source C.
- As for how to submit your draft, I will explain that when the draft complies with the neutral point of view. Cullen328 Let's discuss it
Sending Messages to Other Editors
Hi Jim. I will deeply appreciate anything that you can do to help. How can I find out about other editors and send them messages? I recently looked for an article about The Italian Coffee Company that I had read years ago. However, I could not find it. I believe that this article should be available. I am a new editor and I have a big learning curve ahead of me. Maybe you can post to my talk page. I am user Mojosa17. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you ...
... for speaking up for me! - On Saturday, DYK #1700, and I uploaded images, mostly blue and green, for hope. Missing the "perennial" gang. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:56, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Gerda Arendt. Thank you. I am a lifelong advocate of hope. I also call it optimism. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:10, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- Today: see yourself, read about a hymn praying to not be on earth in vain, about a comics artist whose characters have character (another collaboration of the "perennial gang", broken by one of us banned - the specific hope meant when started was futile so far), and in memory of the last prima donna assoluta, Edita Gruberová. I had to go to two grave sites last week, one who died now, one who died 10 years ago, so standing upright and in black seems appropriate. More colours - but subdued - can be had on hikes, - updated. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:33, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
- Today: memories in friendship --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:37, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
UAA - missing links?
Hey Cullen328. I noticed something today at WP:UAA. There used to be a set of edit filter links between the page header and the bot-reported names section, but now they're gone. Do you know what happened to them? Just curious, because I found those very handy. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 05:20, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Drm310. I know my strengths and my weaknesses. I think that I am pretty good at evaluating usernames but I know that I am weak at highly technical issues. You can try asking at WP:VPT. Good luck! Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:06, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- Will do, thanks! --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 06:38, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi Cullen328
I am new at Wikipedia.What do you recommend to me at first in Wikipedia articles? --# Song-Yu-JunTalk To Me! 16:11, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Song-Yu-Jun. Try The Wikipedia Adventure. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 16:26, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
I am an Spanish native but I have a C2 certificated title of English --# Song-Yu-JunTalk To Me! 16:33, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- Song-Yu-Jun, why do you have all of that false information on your userpage? Cullen328 Let's discuss it 16:39, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
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Correction needed on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyerere_National_Park
Inaccurate size comparison on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyerere_National_Park
"The total area of the park is 30,893 km2 (11,928 sq mi) ...about twice the size of Belgium (Europe)"
But, on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgium
"It covers an area of 30,689 km2 "
How do I suggest a Wiki edit to correct mistakes like this one?
Thanks, Landia Davies
LandiAfrica (talk) 06:55, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, LandiAfrica. Please post a well-referenced edit request at Talk:Nyerere National Park. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:10, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi Cullen328, MHwikiinfo (talk · contribs) seems to be back as MeganDiMaria (talk · contribs), but this time with a disclosure attempt and a partial block. I have now noticed that they're already blocked as "MHwikiinfo". Would you be interested in converting MHwikiinfo's block to a softblock, using {{uw-softerblock}} instead of the current block reason, so that I don't have to siteblock them as a sockpuppet? ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:07, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
- Done. Thanks for pageblocking them. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 19:20, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for the quick response I've now dug further into the article's history and found Mdimaria (talk · contribs) (2016) and MHMwebteam (talk · contribs), both un-blocked until today. Looking at the contributions of all four accounts, my hope for productive editing is close to zero, but the disclosure is a nice surprise. I'm afraid we'll rather see a new account than a talk page request, but we'll see... ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:25, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
FYI
An interesting FYI. --- Possibly ☎ 21:24, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
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Draft Article Question
Hi Jim,
You mentioned that the below draft article may qualify for academia. You left a comment on my talk with JSFarman.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sean_Bush#
Talk with JSFarman here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JSFarman#c-JSFarman-2021-10-25T19%3A14%3A00.000Z-Beansalad3-2021-10-25T17%3A46%3A00.000Z
I was also asked about the 'we' who helped put the article together. To clarify, I was the only one who wrote the article and using the login I created. The other folks in the group sent me links to various sources and articles Dr Bush has written. They were helping me to collect material. Neither myself of anyone in the group knows Dr Bush personally but we are all fans and have an interest in snakes ad toxicology.
Can you tell me what happens next?
Thanks, Nicole
Beansalad3 (talk) 00:30, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Beansalad3 (talk • contribs) 00:07, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Beansalad3. Your username reminds me that I have a couple of jars of four bean salad in my garage. I am going to open one up and eat it in days to come. I have replied at User talk: JSFarman as well. I am not yet prepared to accept the draft for the reasons I stated there, but I think that your draft is promising. I understand and accept your explanation of the collaboration that led to to the creation of this draft, but if the other people want to continue to contribute to the editing of this draft, they should create Wikipedia accounts. Otherwise, WP:MEATPUPPET may come into effect. You should never edit as requested by other people, and should only edit as motivated by your own individual assessment of what is best for the encyclopedia. So, my advice to you is to edit carefully, and if any of your associates wants to have input, they should register a Wikipedia account and contribute openly. Pinging JSFarman since I mentioned her here. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:21, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Jim,
Yes, 3beansalad's were a big part of my childhood. My mother would bring them to every neighborhood party but no one ever ate them which was always funny, but enjoy your canned ones! I have spoken to the other folks and no one will be editing the article or using my login but me. That's not something I would share. You mentioned a subject matter expert. How do I find one that can review and is an approved Wiki editor?
Thanks, Nicole
Beansalad3 (talk) 00:33, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Beansalad3. Here are a couple of suggestions: See if you can find an editor who is a member of Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Science and academia who is still active. Some of them may have retired. Also, you can ask at the Teahouse, where a wide variety of experienced editors answer questions from new editors. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 00:50, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
Will do! Thanks!
Beansalad3 (talk) 00:52, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
Inclusion of a song on Wikipedia's, 'List of Songs Referencing Elvis Presley' page.
Hi Jim, Thank you for your comments. I'm a little confused! Another contributor offered a comment that there are no defined criteria for inclusion on the 'List of Songs Referencing Elvis Presley' on the Wikipedia page? I'll defer to your expertise! So, how does one get added or inculded to that page? Who decides that? I see no rules or qualifiers? Can I just edit the page myself and add my song? (I own ALL RIGHTS and the (C), and I don't think it has been used in any of the venues you mentioned, is that one of the criteria?) I'm not really sure how it works. I did have it listed a few years ago, but for some reason, unknown to me, it is no longer there? Thanks, Jim! I look forward to your advice and comments. Tim, (my real fist-name). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Surayabay (talk • contribs) 15:15, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Surayabay. The minimum requirement for inclusion on that list is that the performer must be notable and be the subject of an existing, acceptable Wikipedia article. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. It summarizes what reliable, independent sources say about various topics. I have been unable to find any such coverage of you or your song. That is the reason that your song was removed previously and you should expect the same to happen if you try to add it back. Self-promotion is very much frowned upon on Wikipedia. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 16:14, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
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- Hello, Neonorange. The biggest problem I see is that the editor does not yet understand the importance of Verifiabilty as a core content policy. Many productive, long term editors began contributing when very young. (I was 57). If you feel that age is a complicating factor, then encourage the editor to read Wikipedia:Guidance for younger editors. As for use of what may or may not be a "real name", many editors, including me, disclose our real names. But I am almost 70 and have been happily self-employed for 28 years. I think that it is usually a mistake for very young editors to use their real name, but it does not inherently violate policy. If there is a spate of disclosing personally identifying information, that is another matter. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:08, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, seems reasonable. I will watch and offer help with editing. — Neonorange (talk to Phil) (he, they) 06:12, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
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Thank you for all your help and guidance in the teahouse. You have definitely helped me become a way better wikipedia editor. I really appreciate all your help. Thank you. Kaleeb18 (talk) 00:00, 1 November 2021 (UTC) |
- Thank you, Kaleeb18. I appreciate it. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 02:40, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
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Hello, where can we discuss aboit issurs of wikisource? Kushal Dev Wiki (talk) 04:47, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Kushal Dev Wiki. I recommend that you read the articles Wikisource and Wikipedia. Although both projects are under the sponsorship of the Wikimedia Foundation, they are projects with very different purposes. Each operates many different language versions. Discussion of the English language Wikipedia should take place here on English Wikipedia. Similarly, discussions about Nepali Wikisource should take place on Nepali Wikisource unless there is some type of major intractable problem that cannot be solved there. In that case, you should contact the Wikimedia Foundation directly. English Wikipedia administrators cannot help you, because we have no power or authority or knowledge of that project. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:12, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
So,can you please guide me how to contact with wikimedia foundation? Kushal Dev Wiki (talk) 01:45, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- Kushal Dev Wiki, there are links to their website in the article Wikimedia Foundation. Go to their website and contact them directly through the website. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 01:49, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
November 2021
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Block review : Raquel Baranow. Thank you. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:15, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hi! Thanks for leaving a comment about citing offline sources at the Teahouse. You said one should include the URL parameter when it's available. How about when first encountered the information offline (example: newspaper) and then you couldn't find an online link/archive of it? As far as I know, Wikipedia doesn't discriminate against offline sources, and they are treated as equal to digital sources. SX3001 (talk) 18:29, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, SX3001. It is OK if there is no online version of the source, as long as the source is reliable and you provide complete bibliographic information in the reference. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 22:30, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
Austin Hoyt correction
Hi Jim
I had done some minor editing a few years back but I just got info about a link to an incorrect person of the same name. The link is on the Back River Nunavut page and refers to Austin Hoyt with a link. This is the wrong Austin Hoyt - who is still alive btw. I just received info from a friend of his who wondered if I could make the correction. The proper link that he gave me was https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0398447/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm from IMDB as he became a documentary filmmaker. See also https://www2.bfi.org.uk/films-tv-people/4ce2ba1686128 Not sure how I can change this without messing up the original Hoyt (1915-1976)
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Michael Peake Michaelpeake (talk) 15:33, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Michaelpeake. I removed the incorrect Wikilink. Thanks. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 16:15, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
John Johnson (reporter) entry
Hi dear Jim,
I hope you and your family are well!
Earlier this year, you edited and greatly improved my husband's Wikipedia entry. I would so appreciate it if I could call on your expertise again for an update. John's prominently featured in a new documentary on Attica. It airs on Showtime tonight and had its world premiere at the Toronto International Film Festival on 9/9/21, the 50th anniversary of the upstate NY prison uprising.
Here are references followed by an excellent Washington Post article and interview with John about his harrowing experience covering the deadly uprising (he was tear gassed and nearly shot and killed), and how ABC News removed him from the story when he refused to report the inmates killed the prison guard hostages because he never witnessed it. He was eventually proven right, but major media outlets went with the false story.
Gaines, Patrice (November 6, 2021). Attica documentary tells the story of America’s deadliest prison riot. nbcnews.com. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/attica-documentary-tells-story-americas-deadliest-prison-riot-rcna4572 John Johnson, a Black reporter who had been chosen as an observer inside by inmates, recalled being outside the facility and having two guards running toward him shouting a racial slur and pointing guns. Johnson shouted back, “Don’t shoot!” Image: Reporter John Johnson John Johnson, a reporter, was chosen as an observer inside by inmates.Showtime
Fienberg, Daniel (September 9, 2021). ‘Attica’: Film Review | TIFF 2021. The Hollywood Reporter. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-reviews/attica-1235010914/ "There were teams of media outside the walls of the prison, with ABC News reporter John Johnson as the standout interview subject here."
Gleiberman, Owen (October 12, 2021). ‘Attica’ Review: A Stirring, Devastating, and Definitive Documentary Account of the 1971 Prison Uprising. Variety. https://variety.com/2021/film/reviews/attica-review-stanley-nelson-1235086821/ "The ABC News reporter John Johnson describes the “completely surreal” quality of walking through the yard (where he greeted men he’d known from Bed-Stuy and Harlem)."
Rapold, Nicolas (November 1, 2021). Talking About ‘Attica,’ the Newest Documentary on the Prison Uprising. New York Times. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/01/movies/attica-documentary-prison-uprising.html "For the anniversary film, now on Showtime, Nelson and Curry dug deep, speaking to former prisoners and figures who had been on the scene, such as the TV journalist John Johnson..."
Wemple, Erik (September 30, 2021). Opinion: Journalists Bungled the Media Coverage of the Attica Uprising. 50 Years Later, the Consequences Remain. Washington Post. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/09/30/attica-chronicle-media-disaster/
Thank you so much for your time, and please stay safe! Ann Yih JohnsonJohnson73 (talk) 15:09, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Johnson73. I have expanded the article. Please give my best regards to your husband. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 23:06, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
John Johnson (reporter) entry
John joins me in thanking you and wishing you the best!Johnson73 (talk) 20:43, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
BLP Sourcing
Hello, I would like some advice on the sourcing of a contentious BLP article. If a fact about the subject, an English-speaking American, appears in the Spanish newspaper Marca (newspaper) and the Brazilian website The Enemy (which I can see is used as a source on the Portuguese Wikipedia ~15 times but only once on the English version), would that be considered sufficient to meet RS standards? Planetjanet (talk) 03:09, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Planetjanet. I see that this has to do with Low Tier God, an article subjected to repeated violations of WP:BLP policy. Hmmmm, not a good sign. When evaluating the reliability of a source, editors need to consider the context and the specific focus and expertise of the source. Marca certainly appears to be a reliable source for news about association football (soccer) in Spain and perhaps that sport in countries that Spanish teams regularly compete against. But it would not be a reliable source for the discovery of a new species of butterflies in Indonesia, because the reporters and editors of Marca have no known expertise in that topic area. Why should we expect them to have expertise in the "real name" (in itself a vague concept) of an American gamer? As for the Brazilian website, the same concerns apply, with heightened concern due to the provocative name of the website itself. Let me give you another example: Entertainment Tonight might be an acceptable source for a direct quotation from a Hollywood celebrity, but not for a breakthrough discovery in nuclear physics. Please explain why you are interested in this matter. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:39, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- The connection both sources have to the subject is they both report on E-Sports—many Spanish soccer teams also compete in video game competitions, e.g. Barcelona and Real Madrid—this is also the meaning of the Brazilian website's name, referring to video game enemies. Low Tier God has been a fighting game competitor for over a decade, perhaps the most well-known in the country by name recognition, and international reporting on him is not surprising. I am interested in the omission of his name from Wikipedia simply because I was initially confused by it, seeing as he is widely referred to by his birth name among the ‘Fighting Game Community’ where he is a frequent topic of conversation. I wondered why there was no mention of his real name on the site, considering that, for a new fighting game player, the name will come up, and the player would go to Wikipedia to find out more about this public figure. I know this because I was recently a new fighting game player, and this was my experience. Planetjanet (talk) 03:52, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- I closed the editor too quickly and it posted before I was done, my apologies.
- I wanted to add that I of course found you through those discussions a few months back, and I'm aware you took the side of keeping his name off of the biography, because there were no reliable sources for the claim that he is sometimes referred to, and even refers to himself, as ‘Dale Wilson’. But I have found two sources for this claim. https://www.marca.com/esports/otros-juegos/2020/09/16/5f61c7d5268e3ee46f8b45f2.html and https://www.theenemy.com.br/esports/trash-talk-esports#item-list-1
- I came to your talk page, instead of editing the page immediately, because I noticed the history of contentiousness of this issue. But I think if you look at my edit history you will find that I don't have an axe to grind on this subject. Planetjanet (talk) 04:00, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- Planetjanet, I do not speak more than a few words and phrases of Spanish, but Google Translate comes up with "he also calls himself Dale Wilson". That is not good evidence that it is his legal name as opposed to another nickname. The Brazilian website does not look like a reliable source to me. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 17:35, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- Explain to me how this works, then, because newspapers very rarely cite their sources. It was printed in a major Spanish newspaper, which means it was fact-checked and went through the editorial process. How does a Wikipedia editor assess whether there is enough evidence behind such a claim? Planetjanet (talk) 21:57, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- I think I misread what you wrote. You're saying the article is evidence that ‘Dale Wilson’ is what he is sometimes referred to (and how he refers to himself), not that it is his legal name. I agree with you. Is this worth mentioning in his article? Planetjanet (talk) 22:00, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- Planetjanet, I do not have strong feelings one way or another, as long as the source is reliable (and it seems to be) and the source is summarized accurately by an editor fluent in Spanish. The previous problems were due to use of poor quality sources. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 22:39, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- Planetjanet, I do not speak more than a few words and phrases of Spanish, but Google Translate comes up with "he also calls himself Dale Wilson". That is not good evidence that it is his legal name as opposed to another nickname. The Brazilian website does not look like a reliable source to me. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 17:35, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
The page of János Grimm
Hi Jim, thanks for the constructive criticism, I didn’t properly interpret the ban or edit related to the original research. I have yet to learn this, then I will be able to edit it. Before the death of János Grimm, he was interviewed by the local newspaper in Debrecen in 1971, I have photos, the 1924 Olympic commemorative medal and the stories of my grandmother. These are real things, they don’t infringe on anyone’s copyright, as they belong to my family and my heritage. I wanted to supplement the existing information, I had no bad intentions. As you wrote, I really made a mistake because I can’t attach links, but when I’m ready for it, I ask for help editing.
Please, Jim, can I rest assured that I won’t get any punishment other than blocking because I wasn’t careful enough?
Thank you: Peteriancsa (talk) 09:55, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Peteriancsa. The newspaper article can be used as a reference to expand the Wikipedia article. You can email me a copy and a translation if you want. There will be no punishment. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 17:06, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for your help
Hi Cullen328, I thank you for your help and reassurance.
Thank you: Peteriancsa (talk) 17:19, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
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GaryNNader Article
Hello @Cullen328:. I was in the process of completing edits on this article to resubmit it, but since edits are no longer possible (since the username represents a living person), I'm going to transfer the article to my personal Wikipedia account, which does not represent a living person. Is there any reason I should not copy/paste the article into my personal account, that would prevent the article from being approved at that point, assuming the disclosures are done and the article itself is factual, correct and without bias? Thanks for your time in reviewing my work. --Glassdaughter (talk) 21:22, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Glassdaughter. Draft articles are not in any editor's personal account and any editor can edit any draft or sandbox page. Copy/pasting to a new title is the wrong approach because it wipes out the edit history and the attribution to the previous editors who may have contributed. That is a violation of their copyrights. So, you can continue editing Draft:Gary Nicolas Nader. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 23:56, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello @Cullen328:. I understand the point about not moving the article to another account as it would violate copyrights. I cannot edit in the GaryNNader account as it is still locked. But since I already have another account (Glassdaughter), it appears I cannot move the article because the account already exists. I cannot create another account, for then I am violating the sockpuppetry policy. Any advice would be appreciated, as I cannot seem to do the right thing and am locked in to a place where I cannot do anything. --Glassdaughter (talk) 02:54, 13 November 2021 (UTC)