User talk:NicoV
punctuation/references
WikiCleanerBot seems to be changing articles to place the references before the punctuation, while the MOS says after. It’s changibg a lot of articles. Peter Flass (talk) 19:42, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Peter Flass. Do you have any example of such incorrect edits? Because it's doing the opposite right now, it's putting references after the punctutation, according to WP:REFPUNCT. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 19:53, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry, my error. Sometimes it's a bit hard to see the change. The bot is correct. Peter Flass (talk) 20:26, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
Is there a strong case for changing a reference before comma to a reference after? If the reference is bound to the preceding words, then the reference should be bound to those words, and not fall the wrong side of the comma. Moving a reference after the full stop is more acceptable, since a full stop denotes the end of a sentence, and is not a delimiter between two clauses.Chumpih (talk) 17:32, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
- Actually, I now see MOS:REFPUNCT. It's OK. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chumpih (talk • contribs) 17:37, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
The Citadel edit
Thank you for helping keeping wiki accurate and factual. The bot recently changed the description and classification of The Citadel from “public” college to “military” college. This edit is incorrect and misleading. The school is clearly a public college offering many degrees (undergraduate, graduate, and online) and varied programs, including a “military” program. As such, the school (same as Norwich) should be classified as a public college. Many thanks for your time and consideration.99.203.17.142 (talk) 14:52, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks IP for your message, but you're mistaken... My bot never changed the description and classification of this article, it fixed a duplicated reference (the same reference used twice at the same place). I think you meant this edit which has been made by Pdino, and absolutely not by my bot. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 15:44, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
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Bug report
Resolved
This bot edit just de-italicized half of a word: strongylo-phyllus (with a soft hyphen) is now strongylo-phyllus. Please fix the bot. - Dank (push to talk) 16:08, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
- NicoV: It looks like {{shy}} simply inserts a character between the two parameters, so the syntax
{{shy|''strongylo|phyllus''}}
is fine. Can that template be excluded from the bot's code? – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:30, 3 December 2020 (UTC)- Hi Dank, Jonesey95. This case is probably very rare, and it's because the template was incorrectly used: see {{shy}} documentation, which clearly states that instead of doing this
{{Soft hyphen|''ital|icized''}}
, the template should be used like this:''{{Soft hyphen|ital|icized}}''
. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 20:45, 3 December 2020 (UTC)- (I just created that documentation because of this problem. There appear to have been two other pages with this potential problem, and I just modified both.) – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:46, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Dank, Jonesey95. I've modified WPCleaner to prevent automatically closing the italic/bold in a template parameter if there's another italic/bold in the template. Maybe at a later time, I will see if can apply this restriction only to a limited list of templates. I still think the {{shy}} template is misused (the italic should be around it, not split between the parameters) and I also think the syntax
''strongylo{{shy}}phyllus''
should be preferred. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 10:10, 6 December 2020 (UTC)- Thanks. I'll use your suggestion of ''strongylo{{shy}}phyllus'' in future articles. - Dank (push to talk) 14:40, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Dank, Jonesey95. I've modified WPCleaner to prevent automatically closing the italic/bold in a template parameter if there's another italic/bold in the template. Maybe at a later time, I will see if can apply this restriction only to a limited list of templates. I still think the {{shy}} template is misused (the italic should be around it, not split between the parameters) and I also think the syntax
- (I just created that documentation because of this problem. There appear to have been two other pages with this potential problem, and I just modified both.) – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:46, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Dank, Jonesey95. This case is probably very rare, and it's because the template was incorrectly used: see {{shy}} documentation, which clearly states that instead of doing this
Alopecia
Alopecia Universalis is the loss of all body hair. (added on as edit because I don’t know JavaScript sorry)zoetropia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:147:182:4B70:C595:D61C:B9F9:F28C (talk) 01:28, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
- Without any context (which article, which edit), it will be difficult to answer... --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 12:47, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
Bug report: false detection of punctuation for definition syntax
Resolved
It seems that the definition syntax is misinterpreted as punctionation, e.g. here. Reporting here so I don't need to keep rolling-back this edit. +mt 23:57, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Mwtoews. Thanks for the report, I will see how I can prevent WPCleaner to do this edit in such cases. For the moment, I've just modified the article so that it's not detected as a problem anymore. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 12:14, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Sounds good. Thanks for the awesome work with WPCleaner! +mt 22:19, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Extra full stop should have been newline removal
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Hi, in this edit, WikiCleanerBot incorrectly added a second full stop where it should have removed the newline in accordance with WP:REFPUNC. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:35, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the notification Redrose64, I will see how to prevent this. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 10:08, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks Redrose64. It should be correctly handled in the future. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 17:24, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:59, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks Redrose64. It should be correctly handled in the future. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 17:24, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
WPC 504 dump
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Something seems to have gone wrong and Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC 504 dump was blanked during the latest refresh. I appreciate the list. Should I just wait for the next update? RJFJR (talk) 14:40, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the notification RJFJR. I've seen, but I don't know why yet. It seems to be the same for several lists related to references (Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC 558 dump, Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC 504 dump, Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC 111 dump...). Once I understand the problem and how to fix it, I will run another analysis. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 16:09, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. RJFJR (talk) 16:25, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- RJFJR. For the moment, I manually put the end of the previous dump analysis. Still trying to understand what the problem is. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 09:28, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi RJFJR. I don't know what the problem was, but I ran the dump analysis only for 111, 504 and 558 and all pages were properly updated. I'll check on the next dump analysis. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 15:34, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. RJFJR (talk) 20:27, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi RJFJR. I don't know what the problem was, but I ran the dump analysis only for 111, 504 and 558 and all pages were properly updated. I'll check on the next dump analysis. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 15:34, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
- RJFJR. For the moment, I manually put the end of the previous dump analysis. Still trying to understand what the problem is. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 09:28, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. RJFJR (talk) 16:25, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
How do you do
Oh bot Nub29339 (talk) 03:33, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
WikiCleanerBot error
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See this wrong removal of an empty span by WikiCleanerBot. I guess an alternative to <span></span> could be {{void}}, but you could educate the robot to ask itself whether an empty span might be there for a specific reason before deciding to remove it. Boud (talk) 17:24, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- I think what is mostly widely used in that case is a
<nowiki />
tag. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:57, 18 February 2021 (UTC)- Hi Boud. The correct way would be a
<nowiki />
tag as Jonesey95 said. To prevent some parsing by the wikitext parser, it's conceptually cleaner to use wikitext tags (<nowiki />
) rather than HTML tags. And the output is cleaner because the span tag ends up in the rendered HTML, while the nowiki tag doesn't. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 18:25, 18 February 2021 (UTC)- OK, thanks. That makes sense.
<nowiki />
is fine by me. Boud (talk) 21:42, 18 February 2021 (UTC)- A
<span></span>
tag pair that has neither content nor attributes (class=
id=
style=
etc.) does absolutely nothing. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:29, 18 February 2021 (UTC)- Hi Boud. To be on the safe side, I've prevented WPCleaner to automatically remove empty tags when they're between identical brackets (square/curvy, opening/closing) as they may prevent MW parser to interpret them as wiki syntax (even if it's not the best way to do that). --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 11:43, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- A
- OK, thanks. That makes sense.
- Hi Boud. The correct way would be a
New Linter bogus file option errors
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Some bug fixes in the Linter bogus file option detection code have led to a pile of new articles on the to-fix list. I think that "\d+ppx" is newly detected as an error. If WikiCleanerBot 22 wants to search and destroy all of those, that would be helpful. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:39, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Also widthpx, if you are interested, about 150 articles. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:41, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks Jonesey95. I will try when I have some available time (next week maybe). --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 18:47, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Jonesey95. I don't know who fixed them (maybe my bot, but I didn't do anything special), but they're all fixed (only left images in comments). --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 20:49, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks Jonesey95. I will try when I have some available time (next week maybe). --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 18:47, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
New Linter links-in-links error for bot to fix
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Here's another one, affecting about 700 articles: {{PD-notice}} inside an external link. The fix is simple.
The reason that it wasn't on our radar before is that the link-in-link Linter test was failing to detect wikilinks wrapped in italics. A bug fix was deployed last week, so now these are popping up on the link-in-link list. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:52, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks Jonesey95. That's an easy one, it's just a configuration. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 17:55, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Jonesey95. They're correctly detected, and my bot is currently going through the list to fix them. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 11:39, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Wonderful. Thanks for cleaning these articles! – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:18, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Jonesey95. They're correctly detected, and my bot is currently going through the list to fix them. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 11:39, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
vecwiki
vec:Utensa:NicoV/WikiCleanerConfiguration --Fierodelveneto (talk) 20:30, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Fierodelveneto. I've added vecWP to WPCleaner and to the list of supported wikis. It should be working now. The current vec:Utensa:NicoV/WikiCleanerConfiguration is a first start for configuring WPCleaner for vecWP. If you want to benefit of more features from the tool, you will need to configure a few more things:
- Check Wiki configuration on vecWP (example of configuration for enWP
- Once this is done, you will need to modify
check_wiki_translation_page=Wikipedia:WikiProjekt Check Wikipedia/Translation END
in vec:Utensa:NicoV/WikiCleanerConfiguration so that it points to the configuration you created for Check Wiki
- If you need help, don't hesitate to ask! --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 11:55, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
Bot T20 CW#61 oversight of "[[wikilink]]<ref>."
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Bot doesn't recognize "[[wikilink]]<ref>." (and probably "[link]<ref>." too), see this diff (I've corrected it manually). MarMi wiki (talk) 15:46, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks MarMi wiki ! I will modify WPCleaner to handle also this case. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 16:16, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- It's done MarMi wiki. My bot wasn't properly detecting the problem because of the "}" after the punctuation. It should be solved for the next itme my bot runs. Thanks again for the report! --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 20:58, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
I was a little spooked that the bots had become sentient, which would mean we're all screwed. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:08, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
Error?
I just reverted the removal of "Category:Alumni of Magdalen College, Oxford" from the article Sir William Beauchamp-Proctor, 1st Baronet. I don't see why that was being removed, as it isn't a duplication of any other categories present. Brianyoumans (talk) 18:37, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Brianyoumans. It's not an error the category is listed twice, see below. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 18:46, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
[[Category:Alumni of Magdalen College, Oxford]] [[Category:People from Tottenham]] [[Category:People from Loddon]] [[Category:Alumni of Magdalen College, Oxford]]
- Oops. My bad. Thank you! Brianyoumans (talk) 00:04, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks!
File:Background 3-8 01.43702ae9.jpg | Thank you! |
Thanks for fixing my mistake! I am relatively new around here...should have known that the source should come after the punctuation. Gladdisiator (talk) 20:14, 3 May 2021 (UTC) |
Suggestion: operate Task 5 in File space
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Can Task 5 operate in File space, like this? It would help to get the easy fixes off of the list and save the difficult ones for humans. They are listed at Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC 002 dump. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:29, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Jonesey95. It's very easy to do it. Do you think I need to open a new request for approval to extend some checks to the File space? --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 16:02, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- I don't think so. These should be uncontroversial modifications. (If you were going into Talk spaces, I would say yes to a new BRFA.) – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:04, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Jonesey95. I wasn't sure, that's why my bot is currently doing only 3 errors in File space. If you think it's ok for such modifications, I will add some to my bot tasks. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 16:09, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- I think it is OK. Very few people really watch, or care about, or feel ownership about, the text content in File space. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:14, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Jonesey95. Ok, the bot is going through the File space right now. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 16:20, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- I think it is OK. Very few people really watch, or care about, or feel ownership about, the text content in File space. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:14, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Jonesey95. I wasn't sure, that's why my bot is currently doing only 3 errors in File space. If you think it's ok for such modifications, I will add some to my bot tasks. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 16:09, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- I don't think so. These should be uncontroversial modifications. (If you were going into Talk spaces, I would say yes to a new BRFA.) – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:04, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Clever
Figuring out the correct link/label here was a very cool trick. Thank you, to whomever wrote the code for that. WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:12, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks WhatamIdoing. Indeed, it took some code for handling missing whitespace before internal links.... --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 09:59, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
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Do image in Dev joshi article Dev joshi fan (talk) 08:59, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
references before commas
WikiCleanerBot recently altered an article Cornish Wrestling Throws by taking elements in a list separated by commas, with references against each element of the list and moving the references to after the commas. The purpose of commas in a list is to separate the items in the list, so this is effectively placing the references against the wrong part of the list and looks terrible. How can we stop this from happening? It takes hours to correct and this has just happened again.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mab an Garrek (talk • contribs) 07:47, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Mab an Garrek. For the Manual of Style, MOS:REFPUNCT, there's no such cases of placing the references before the commas : they should always be after the comma, whatever the part of the sentence they are referring to. So placing them before the comma is incorrect according to English Wikipedia choice (even if you think it looks terrible... I do too, and I prefer a lot French syntax for example, where references are always before the punctuation). You can of course revert the modifications (it should be quick, just revert), but the bot will go again through the article (probably at least twice a month). You can try adding the page to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_061_whitelist (please add a reason after the page name, it will be easier to understand why the page is here later). Otherwise, you can add a
<!-- -->
between the reference and the comma. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 08:15, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
Thank you. Very helpful :-)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mab an Garrek (talk • contribs) 14:11, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
WikiCleanerBot turning an external link into an internal one when external was intentional
Hello,
I don't know if you can solve this, but WikiCleanerbot turned an intentional external link on Sliding door (car) into an internal one, breaking a template (diff). Please let me know if there's anything that can be done about this. Thanks, DesertPipeline (talk) 14:25, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
I probably should have just used the {{edit}} template in the first place, actually... DesertPipeline (talk) 14:29, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hi DesertPipeline. Thanks for the message. I will see what I can do to prevent WPCleaner for doing such edits. You could also maybe use {{Empty section}}, which looks a bit different but is intended for this kind of message. EDIT: not sure about {{Empty section}} as it seems to be substed... --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 14:40, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
- I actually replaced the {{empty section}} template when I made an edit to the page before; I prefer the look of a width-variable box (although I should probably just ask if that can be made a parameter on ambox – then again, I suppose it would require all templates using it to add the parameter themselves too). You don't need to try to resolve this though; it was my fault. I should have just used the {{edit}} template. I'm using that template now there. DesertPipeline (talk) 04:28, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
- @DesertPipeline:
- Speaking of internal links with parameters, there's also {{Querylink}} ({{ql}}), but I don't know how the bot handles it.
{{Querylink|Sliding door (car)|qs=action=edit§ion=5|adding to it}}
.- adding to it MarMi wiki (talk) 00:19, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks MarMi wiki. The bot should ignore it entirely, as there's no visible external link in the wiki text. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 05:45, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
- I actually replaced the {{empty section}} template when I made an edit to the page before; I prefer the look of a width-variable box (although I should probably just ask if that can be made a parameter on ambox – then again, I suppose it would require all templates using it to add the parameter themselves too). You don't need to try to resolve this though; it was my fault. I should have just used the {{edit}} template. I'm using that template now there. DesertPipeline (talk) 04:28, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
Please exclude
Please exclude Erich Rieger from bot. The article relies on academic sources and your bot introduces ambiguity, such as with paragraph-closing citations that it makes look to apply to a whole paragraph instead of just the last sentence. Yreuq (talk) 15:26, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Yreuq. The Manual of Style doesn't have such exceptions for having references before the punctuation, see WP:REFPUNCT. The correct formatting, according to MOS, is with the reference after the punctuation. If you still want to force the reference to be before the punctuation, you can insert a comment between the reference and the punctuation
<ref>...</ref><!-- -->.
, that will prevent the bot from changing them. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 15:39, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
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List of The Simpsons guest stars
Hello. Please exclude this bot from editing the List of The Simpsons guest stars section, at least for trying to clean the season menu at the top of the List of Guest stars sub-section. Because this is split across two separate wikipedia pages (a separate Seasons 1 to 20, as well as the main page) the clean-up constantly breaks the functionality of the menu working on the List of The Simpsons guest stars (seasons 1–20) so the links to the main page (i.e. Seasons 21 and above) don't work. Manacek (talk) 03:37, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Manacek. Sorry for the inconvenience. I will look how to change WPCleaner to avoid doing this change on this page. For the moment, one way to avoid it is to keep the other fix to the page (moving the reference before the dot) because the problematic modification is cosmetic so it won't be done on its own. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 17:47, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
WikiCleanerBot - broken image
Hello NicoV, your bot tried to fix unbalanced brackets, but the result was a broken image. Have a look at Jared Polis - broken image. Best regards --GünniX (talk) 06:42, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks GünniX for the report. I think the missing template end resulted in my bot making a mistake. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 07:34, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
How can i contact you
Whatsapp me +918260852331 or mail me lyfarecords@gmail.com X0BiT111 (talk) 04:59, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hi X0BiT111. Communication on wiki only. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 17:21, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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Phab:T297576 created
WikiCleanerBot creates a faulty wikilink with duplicate pipe characters from a faulty external link containing a spurious pipe, as in rev. 1060041139 of Lycée Français Charles de Gaulle (Chile). Filed T297576. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 04:17, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Mathglot. Thanks for the report, I will look into it. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 06:31, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
WikiCleanerBot - misplaced ; (semicolon)
In Sergey_Zimov#Filmography WikiCleanerBot changed the position of the semikolon from (Film site[23]; ARTE Germany[24]) to (Film site;[23] ARTE Germany[24]). But the reference number is for the movie site, not for the semicolon. Hence, I believe that the fix made by WikiCleanerBot should be rolled back. --Tristram (talk) 21:55, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Tristram, thanks for the report, but the bot action seems correct, because on enWP, references are put after the punctuation, not before, see WP:REFPUNCT. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 20:45, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
- OK thanks. --Tristram (talk) 00:27, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
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WikiCleanerBot made an error
In this edit WikiCleanerBot changed a link to a project page from an external link to an internal link. However per WP:SELFREF, self-referential links should be formatted as external links. To avoid this happening again the bot should not change external links to internal links if either of the following apply:
- The link is in an "External links" section
- The link is from the mainspace to a Wikipedia: space page and is not in a hatnote (most such links are going to be errors, the ones that aren't should be formatted as external links. Thryduulf (talk) 23:53, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- Hello Thryduulf. Sorry, but I don't understand your reasoning. What is wrong with using {{srlink}} for such links? I don't see where in WP:SELFREF it is said that real external links should be used. I tried using it and it seems correct. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 19:00, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- I didn't know that template existed, and the bot didn't use it - it converted the link to an internal one. Unless there is some advantage to using the template over a normal external link (none is apparent to me, the template documentation doesn't mention any and indeed formatting external links as if they were internal ones feels rather misleading) then changing an external link to a {{srlink}} one would be purely cosmetic so my above notes stand. Separately I'm also disappointed to see that the bot is neither exclusion compliant nor capable of detecting when it was reverted so that it doesn't repeat its errors. Thryduulf (talk) 19:29, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
Wrong "missing end italics" fix by WikiCleanerBot
Hi! In this edit, in the "Tracey Takes On..." line, the bot added the missing italics at the end of the table cell. While this does fix the missing italics, it's incorrect in context, because the "(TV series)" part of that cell should not be italicized. I've been fixing missing end tags quite a bit lately, and in my experience, many of them need to be fixed by hand, because there's too much context for a bot to take into account. --rchard2scout (talk) 10:32, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hi rchard2scout. For the missing end italics, my bot only add them in a limited number of situations and I think most of the replacements are correct, and if not, they should keep the current formatting. I think stopping such changes will prevent many good edits simply to avoid edits that don't do the correct fix but don't harm the article either. Is there any simpler restriction that could be added (like the presence of parenthesis) ? --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 17:58, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
Wrong removal of links in citations
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Hi, your bot just performed this edit ([1]) where it removed some circular links. While it is sometimes okay to remove circular links, please don't do that if:
- a) the link carries some #fragment extension,
- b) or if it is in a CS1/CS2 citation template and either pointing straight back to the current article (regardless if with or without #fragment targets),
- c) or if it is in a CS1/CS2 citation template and is pointing to a redirect marked with {{R with possibilities}}.
In this case, b) applies. In CS1/CS2 citation templates, it is perfectly okay to have and keep such circular links: CS1/CS2 will automatically handle this case, so such links won't show as links (just as text) in the citation and they won't be displayed in boldface (as it would happen outside of citation templates). They also won't pullute the meta data. So, keeping such links in the citations does not in any way harm in the article, but it makes it easier for editors to reuse the citation in other articles, because if such a citation is copied to another article (where the link would be no longer circular), the link would become active. This is a quite common case, as citations are often first created in articles about a particular topic (where the link would be circular) and then later reused in other not-so closely related articles (where the link would not be circular). So, removing the links in this case is not an improvement and is actually sand in the gear for those who want to do quality article work. Thanks.
- --Matthiaspaul (talk) 11:01, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Matthiaspaul. I wasn't aware of such use case. I will see if I can prevent the replacement and detection in CS1/CS2 templates. For info, the templates only hide the bold part, but the generated HTML still contains
<a class="mw-selflink selflink">Edition Leipzig</a>
. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 18:02, 14 February 2022 (UTC)- Hi Matthiaspaul. I've modified WPCleaner to ignore circular links in CS1/CS2 citation templates. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 15:37, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, that's cool. Thanks. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 15:40, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Matthiaspaul. I've modified WPCleaner to ignore circular links in CS1/CS2 citation templates. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 15:37, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Matthiaspaul. I wasn't aware of such use case. I will see if I can prevent the replacement and detection in CS1/CS2 templates. For info, the templates only hide the bold part, but the generated HTML still contains
Sorry
I made a mistake. Dash John (talk) 22:59, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
RLO
In this instance, we really need the Unicode RLO that your bot removed. Please fix.
https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Yaacov_Choueka&diff=1081753904&oldid=1081246236
-- Vonfraginoff (talk) 07:52, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the report Vonfraginoff. I will look into my code on what I can do to avoid this. I think you can prevent my bot doing this either by moving the RLO close to the hebrew text (currently it's probably between ASCII letter and whitespace) or use another notation making the RLO visible using
‮
. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 09:22, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
Wikicleanerbot and State-sponsored terrorism
Hi NicoV. I've just had to revert Wikicleanerbot at State-sponsored terrorism. I'm not sure what happened, but it deleted 163kb of text with the summary "Reference before punctuation". I'm guessing it was unable to save the re-addition properly as there was a link to a blacklisted site (worldaffairsjournal.org). - LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 10:50, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the notification ActivelyDisinterested. I'm guessing the following happened :
- Sometimes, when the network connection fails when saving a page in WPCleaner, MW still saves the page even if it didn't receive the full text (I think it's a MW bug, but they don't seem to agree) => this probably accounts for the first edit
- WPCleaner knows that the connection failed, so it tries again => this probably accounts for the second edit for which the connection failed again
- WPCleaner have retried several times, but the blacklisted site prevented to fix the previous edits.
- I don't know how I can really prevent that... I have to find a way so that network failures don't end up in a truncated page in the first place. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 11:13, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Ah ok. I was wondering why the bot sometimes deleted chunks of text and then re-added them, and that explains it. As the rollback fails could it be logged somehow so that it could be corrected manually? - LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 11:23, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Latest stable software release/Jmol
Template:Latest stable software release/Jmol has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 07:52, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
Hello!
Is it possible for the bot to equate the == Summary ==
and == {{int:filedesc}} ==
headings? Also the == Licensing ==
, == Licensing: ==
, == {{int:license}} ==
and == {{int:license-header}} ==
headings? There are a few heading doubles that aren't picked up right now. Jonteemil (talk) 13:19, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Jonteemil. I've done a first step by ignoring ":" at the end of the title, it should be visible in the next dump analysis. I will think about a more general approach for the
== {{int:filedesc}} ==
and similar. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 17:58, 5 July 2022 (UTC)- Sounds good, thanks.Jonteemil (talk) 21:51, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Jonteemil. I've managed to run an update on the dump analysis, the colons at the end of titles are now ignored. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 07:11, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Sounds good, thanks.Jonteemil (talk) 21:51, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
Sharksploitation
Thank you Machine for your edits. Unfortunately whenever I try to put the link in as an internal link it replaces the text as a box with a number in it, so i have been relying on you, Bot 203.206.97.177 (talk) 05:46, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
1,111,111,111
Congratulations to your Bot on making the pedia's 1,111,111,111rd edit ϢereSpielChequers 13:37, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Now written up in The Signpost ϢereSpielChequers 04:37, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot WereSpielChequers ! --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 18:06, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
WCB error on T20
Resolved
Hi Nico. Found an interesting edge case here. Seems that when the name half of a datalist entry spans multiple lines, WikiCleanerBot fails to recognize that the colon is serving a syntactic function rather than being punctuation, leading the bot to move a reference to the start of a line. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 16:09, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Tamzin, and thanks for the report. I think I fixed this edge case, it should not happen anymore. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 18:04, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
CW#61 Reference before punctuation (in Ultraviolet/Optical Telescope)
In https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Ultraviolet/Optical_Telescope&type=revision&diff=1122741377&oldid=1122107035&diffmode=source it seems like the sentence is actually referring to the reference itself ("as outlined by [ref]"), and so putting the reference after "." is more confusing. To be honest I'm not sure what to do here (though I added a comment in between to prevent). AltoStev (talk) 03:12, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
- It was a GIGO error. The problem was that the sentence made no sense as written. I have edited it. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:20, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
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References in reference section
In this edit the bot removed blank space between references in an article. The problem is that these uses of <ref>
are in the reference section, within a {{reflist}} template, where the blank space has no effect but makes the wikicode easier to read. The bot should probably exclude such cases (perhaps halting its search at the references section and/or a reflist template would be the simplest fix?). – Reidgreg (talk) 02:09, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Reidgreg. There was a extra dot in the middle of the references, I just fixed it. Indeed, the bot shouldn't have done the edit, but I think it's a very rare, only happens if there's a punctuation which should be there. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 19:30, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
Assist setting up WPCleaner in knwiki
hello @NicoV , can you please help me setup WPCleaner in knwiki ~aanzx (talk) 05:25, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi ~aanzx. You have a few explanations in WP:WPCleaner/Wikis:
- First, you need to create kn:User:NicoV/WikiCleanerConfiguration (you have a template and documentation, and can also look at existing configurations like enwiki or frwiki)
- Add a line in WP:WPCleaner/Wikis with knwiki information (especially I need a name to add it to WPCleaner)
- Eventually, you can configure also check wiki project (create a page like Wikipedia:WikiProject Check Wikipedia/Translation on knwiki) as WPCleaner relies on this configuration to detect some errors
- Tell me when you have done the first step, I can then add knwiki to WPCleaner and you can start using it to see if the configuration is correct
- If you have specific questions, tell me, I will try to answer. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 09:05, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi ~aanzx. Sorry, I didn't see that knwiki already exists... What help do you need ? --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 09:08, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- @NicoV , a user in knwiki asked that it not configured properly , I was not sure about it. Anyway I will check onwiki setup tomorrow and get back to you if necessary. Thanks. ~aanzx (talk) 18:09, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi ~aanzx. Sorry, I didn't see that knwiki already exists... What help do you need ? --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 09:08, 3 March 2023 (UTC)