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April 18
Photo problem
Could someone please look at the image I attempted to add immediately under the subheading here:
Thomas Jefferson#Declaration of Independence
This happens very rarely but it's not the first time where the image shows up fine on preview and then not on the published version, which is the case here. I greatly appreciate the assistance on whether this is a formatting error on my part, a glitch, or what. Thanks! Keystone18 (talk) 00:01, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Keystone18: If section preview works but not the full page then there is usually an unclosed tag earlier in the page. I fixed an unclosed wikilink in a caption.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 00:22, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- And that throws off the images beneath it. Didn't realize that. Thanks very, very much! Keystone18 (talk) 00:25, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
Using a picture file form the Australian National Archive
Dear colleagues, I have no experience of this. I have found an image in the national Archive of the composer on whom I am writing an entry. Does anyone know how to get permission from the Archive for using such an image? The ID of the image is National Archives of Australia NAA 46135, K21/2/72/14. Can I have some leads please? Erictimewell (talk) 01:41, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Erictimewell: What's the license of the image? If the photo requires permission, you could ask the archive to review Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. GoingBatty (talk) 03:15, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Permission can be granted only by the owner of the copyright: the Archive is unlikely to be that owner. One possibility is that the image is old enough to be in the public domain: if so, you can upload it to Commons and use it freely. (You may find guidance at WP:NUSC, or you can ask about it at MCQ). Otherwise, you can get permission only if you can track down the copyright owner, which may be difficult.
- Another possibility, if this is for an article specifically about the composer, is to upload it as non-free content. You will need to make sure that your use meets all the terms in the non-free content criteria - one of these is that it may be used only in an article, not in a draft, so if you are using this route, you should wait until the article has been accepted into the encyclopaedia proper. ColinFine (talk) 09:27, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
Who is Jimmy Wales?
Is it time to Renew my Donation $3.00? 108.185.70.136 (talk) 03:00, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi there! Jimmy Wales is one of the co-founders of Wikipedia. For questions about donations, see https://donate.wikimedia.org/wiki/FAQ GoingBatty (talk) 03:17, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
How to add A-class icon to page?
I was wondering how to add the icon for A class to the upper right corner of relevant pages, for example 19th Mechanized Division (Greece)? Cheers! Thinker78 (talk) 05:41, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- That symbol is aleady on the talk page Talk:19th Mechanized Division (Greece). I don't believe that it is suposed to be placed in the article itself. ColinFine (talk) 09:31, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- But A-class articles are reportedly one notch above GA class. Therefore, I think its icon is probably supposed to be in the main page of the article. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 22:22, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- No. Content assessments are placed on the relevant talk page. See Wikipedia:Content assessment. Shantavira|feed me 08:26, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, my question is not about in general about assessment but rather placing the icon in the main page of the article as is usually the case fo Good Articles. Thinker78 (talk) 22:05, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Thinker78 Which Good Articles have the icon on the article page? That conflicts with the link that Shantavira provided; did you read that? Maybe those Good Articles that you know about should have the icon removed from their article page. David10244 (talk) 06:08, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- I think there is some misunderstanding here or you haven't seen Good Articles. It is the norm for them to have the GA icon in their main page so people can identify them. You can check them out at Category:Good_articles. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 21:05, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Good articles do, but there's no extra icon for A-class articles. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 21:39, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Those are topicons, see {{topicon}} and the source code of {{Good article}} ([2]). However, I don't know if showing them is okay or not, despite them being one level above GA. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 21:55, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Thinker78 "It is the norm for them to have the GA icon in their main page so people can identify them." Ok, but, the guidelines, linked to by Shantavira, say not to do that... unless I am reading them wrong. David10244 (talk) 08:47, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- I think there is some misunderstanding here or you haven't seen Good Articles. It is the norm for them to have the GA icon in their main page so people can identify them. You can check them out at Category:Good_articles. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 21:05, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Thinker78 Which Good Articles have the icon on the article page? That conflicts with the link that Shantavira provided; did you read that? Maybe those Good Articles that you know about should have the icon removed from their article page. David10244 (talk) 06:08, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, my question is not about in general about assessment but rather placing the icon in the main page of the article as is usually the case fo Good Articles. Thinker78 (talk) 22:05, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- No. Content assessments are placed on the relevant talk page. See Wikipedia:Content assessment. Shantavira|feed me 08:26, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- But A-class articles are reportedly one notch above GA class. Therefore, I think its icon is probably supposed to be in the main page of the article. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 22:22, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
How get article related to india?
I get article from worldwide but i want read article related to india. How it can possible?? 42.111.13.150 (talk) 06:11, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi IP 42.111.13.150. "India" is a very broad topic and there are lots of genres and articles related to India on Wikipedia. If you go to the top of this page and enter "Articles about India" into the search box, you'll find there are almost 200,000 articles that appear to be related to India in some way. So, what you could try to do is search for something more specific instead; for example, if you want to read about Indian politics, you can try searching "Indian politics" and see what comes up. You could also try asking about specific Indian-related topics at Wikipedia:WikiProject India and see if any of the members of that WikiProject can offer any suggestions. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:28, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- You might also take a look at the Hindi Wikipedia. Shantavira|feed me 08:24, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
Maplink template issue
Is it just me or are maplinks/mapframes not working currently? They display as a link saying "Map" to a page that doesn't exist or weird bits of code. See Alabama's 7th congressional district and California's 9th congressional district for reference —twotwofourtysix(talk || edits) 07:49, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- The error the map throws is:
Invalid mapdata response for {\"action\":\"query\",\"formatversion\":\"2\",\"revids\":\"1149622943\",\"prop\":\"mapdata\",\"mpdlimit\":\"max\",\"mpdgroups\":\"_e60fc918c5bdfc90edd8b94138339f323fab44f5\"}". Suggest filing a ticket in phabricator
—TheDJ (talk • contribs) 08:04, 18 April 2023 (UTC)- I have filed phab:T334911 —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 08:12, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- The thumbnail has been restored as normal but it still can't expand like it should normally. —twotwofourtysix(talk || edits) 08:20, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- This issue of code being broken is appearing additionally in Demography articles (if I am assuming it is the same problem and I am not going mad here), take a look at Demography of Netherlands, Pakistan or even Britain, all seem to be broken with the come theme one being Template:Graph:Chart. Additionally Template:Image_frame is also broken as seen on Modern immigration to the United Kingdom, I have a feeling this is a site wide problem affecting many templates seemingly. Tweedle (talk) 10:44, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Tweedledumb2 The graph extension has been disabled due to a major security bug. See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Graph extension disabled per immediate effect 192.76.8.66 (talk) 10:50, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Ah perfect! Thanks for this, I thought I was going insane when everything came up broken!! Tweedle (talk) 10:53, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Tweedledumb2 The graph extension has been disabled due to a major security bug. See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Graph extension disabled per immediate effect 192.76.8.66 (talk) 10:50, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
Rolla Harger
On the Robert Frank Borkenstein listing. Rolla Neil Harger (January 14, 1890 – August 8, 1983) invented an early breathalyzer, called the Drunkometer, to test for driving under the influence in 1931; he was awarded the patent in 1936. He was biochemistry and pharmacology department chairman of the Indiana University School of Medicine from 1933 to 1956 and worked as a professor in the department of biochemistry and toxicology from 1922 to 1960. Harger was born on January 14, 1890, in Sherman Township, Decatur County, Nebraska. He used Nebraska on his World War I draft registration and Decatur County, Kansas on his World War II draft registration</ref> He graduated from Yale University in 1922. Harger was an assistant professor at Indiana University School of Medicine in the newly formed department of biochemistry and pharmacology. In 1931, he invented the Drunkometer to test for driving under the influence. In 1938 he was one of the five people chosen to be on the subcommittee of the National Safety Council that drafted the model legislation that set the blood alcohol content for driving under the influence. 2603:800C:1F00:DA3B:606A:8A3E:FC0E:8420 (talk) 13:10, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- This is already discussed in both Robert Frank Borkenstein and Breathalyzer. If you think that more should be added, please open a discussion on the Talk page of the corresponding article. ColinFine (talk) 13:27, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
Wikipage
Hi, We are a business and received an email from Elite Wiki Writers. I do not know if this is genuine however it has raised some interest in having a Wikipage about our business history.
I recognise Wikipedia is not a business promoting organisation so can we create a page about the history or our business and are Elite Wiki Writers genuine.
I look forward to your response and thank you for your assistance
Bimal Patel BeDredd (talk) 14:14, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- @BeDredd: Hello Be! Do not pay these people. There are no "Elite Wiki Writers" here and it's a scam. Please follow the instructions at WP:SCAM. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:20, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Blaze Wolf, thank you for your quick response and advising us of Elite Wiki Writers. BeDredd (talk) 14:26, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- First of all, do not respond to unsolicited e-mails asking you to pay to have a Wikipedia article written they are scams!!! Elite Wiki Writers in particular is on our Wikipedia:List of paid editing companies under the heading "Companies blocked at least once". They have been blocked for not following the Policy:Terms of Use of this website.
- Now, regarding creating a page about the history of your business, the answer is, it depends. Does your business meet the criteria outlined on this page, and are there reliable sources that were created separate from your company's involvement that discuss your company at length? If so, it's possible to create an article about your company. If not, it is not possible to create an article about your company. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 14:24, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Unicorn, Thank you for your quick response and advise regarding the requirements for the company page. I shall investigate further to check we fall into the criteria and sources. BeDredd (talk) 14:29, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
How can start may June exem
How can I fund a maths texbook @ 41.115.76.41 (talk) 15:42, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- This page is for asking for help with Wikipedia. We can't help you with other matters. Talk to your school. RudolfRed (talk) 15:47, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
Adding a scanned image to a citation
I have several citations that I need to make on an article I've written, but the sources are not online. I do, however, have scanned images of the source articles that I would like to upload/attach to my citation. How do I do something like this? Drawingonthepromises (talk) 15:48, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Drawingonthepromises: Hi there! You can use templates such as {{cite news}}, {{cite magazine}} or {{cite journal}} to cite sources that are not online, without having to provide any scanned images. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 15:51, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Drawingonthepromises, be aware that newspaper articles and the like are protected under copyright law, including scanned images of them. Uploading or even linking to such images may run afoul of Wikipedia's copyright policies - best not to do it. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 16:08, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Also be aware that in this era of Photoshop, purported scans of articles are not considered reliable sources. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:43, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you both! Drawingonthepromises (talk) 16:15, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
Tabular userbox layout
Hi all, I hope this is the right place to ask this. I'm trying to turn my userbox display, which by default is one userbox per row, into one that's organised in a grid layout compacting multiple userboxes into a neat box. What I'm going for is the style achieved at meta:User language#Usage near the bottom (you'll know it when you see it). How would I achieve this in the same way it's achieved on that page? I have it roughly done on my user page, but it doesn't conform to the page size and as such goes off the page past 100% zoom. Is there a simple way to do this? Any help is appreciated. - Cheers, KoolKidz112 (hit me up) 16:45, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- A simple way to fix it is to only put 4 userboxes per row instead of 5. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 21:11, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- That's better than five, but when zooming in they still go off of the page. The MetaWiki's method uses templatestyles which I attempted but was unable to do because it wasn't sanitised CSS. I feel like if there is a way to use that style it would be the best option. - Cheers, KoolKidz112 (hit me up) 14:05, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
AIV page full to bursting
AIV needs some help dealing with the volume. Would hate to see reports removed.-- Quisqualis (talk) 18:01, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Has been cleared, thanks for posting. FYI WP:AN is usually the best place to post about admin backlogs. Galobtter (talk) 18:24, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
Category:Pages with disabled graphs
There's a bunch of pages linked to Category:Pages with disabled graphs but that category has never existed and I don't know what to do with them. —Lights and freedom (talk ~ contribs) 18:32, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Lights and freedom: I noticed this too. I wonder if something was done that made that category appear on any page that makes use of the graph feature. I would ask at the relevant section at WP:VPT. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:35, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Lights and freedom:, there is a notification at the top of my watchlist that reads
Because of a security problem, the Graph extension has been disabled with immediate effect. More information will follow at VPT.
Cullen328 (talk) 21:36, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Lights and freedom:, there is a notification at the top of my watchlist that reads
Verification
When does my wikipedia template gets reviewed? 5hp.2021 (talk) 21:15, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, 5hp.2021. What template are you talking about? I see that you have created an infobox at Draft:Mayroi FC, but that will never be accepted because there is no prose and there are no references. Cullen328 (talk) 21:33, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
Short descriptions different from those at Wikidata
Hi there,
I had a question about using short descriptions different than the ones found at Wikidata. For a lot of them on certain articles, they aren't really informative (eg: on a given university/college article, it would only say "in X,Y,Z" rather than say "Arts school in X,Y,Z"). I haven't changed short descriptions on those articles given that it might mess things up, but I do think they can be way more informative than they are. My question is: if I change the short descriptions in the article itself, and not also at Wikidata, would that introduce problems? Please let me know. Thanks in advance! Losipov (talk) 22:06, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- No, there's no issues with doing that; part of the reason we have local short descriptions and don't just use the ones from Wikidata is to allow improving the short descriptions for our own needs. Galobtter (talk) 22:22, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Losipov, the descriptions at Wikidata have a different purpose than the short descriptions here. On Wikidata items are identified by number not by label. Many items can have very similar labels in English (or any other language), so the descriptions are used to tell the difference between items with similar labels. Here they function as a meaningful short description of the topic. There is no need for the two locations to match. StarryGrandma (talk) 02:01, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Losipov. Just be careful about turning short descriptions into more lengthy descriptions. They should be informative but brief. Cullen328 (talk) 05:07, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Cullen328 I understand. The problem is that more lengthy ones are needed sometimes in my opinion because it gives more information in a clearer way (just a heads up, I've been trying to add and change short descriptions in a way that is both brief and informative, like you stated. I just wanted to make sure they were alright). But I do understand, like I said. Thanks for the response!
- Also, thank you to @Galobtter and @StarryGrandma for the help. By the way, now that I recall, some of the short descriptions that I've come across seem to be vandalism or at the very least disruptive (at least in Wikidata). Is there someplace I can alert admins or whomever so they can take a look? Thanks again. Losipov (talk) 05:19, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Losipov. Just be careful about turning short descriptions into more lengthy descriptions. They should be informative but brief. Cullen328 (talk) 05:07, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
April 19
Please Add info of Honbl,Ram Prasad Dhungana on wikipedia
He is popular in Nepal,He is follwed allover Nepal some of news article about him are as follows
- 1.https://www.nepalnews.com/s/nation/109-bagmati-pa-members-take-oath
- 2.https://himalsanchar.com/bagmati-provinces-senior-mp-dhungana-took-oath/
- https://risingnepaldaily.com/news/20711
- 5.myrepublica.nagariknetwork.com/amp/senior-most-mp-of-bagmati-province-takes-oath-of-office/
- 6.https://kathmandupost.com/province-no-3/2022/12/29/bagmati-provincial-assembly-lawmakers-take-oath-of-office-and-secrecy-on-thursday
- 7.https://thenepalipost.com/details/28611
- 8.https://onlineradionepal.gov.np/en/2022/12/29/342236.html
BENARJAN (talk) 06:00, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, BENARJAN. When you say "please Add info about..." what you are really saying is "Would any of the thousands of volunteer editors like to spend some of their own time researching and writing an article about ...?" It's not impossible that somebody will do so, but your are not very likely to find somebody by asking here.
- There is a place to make this sort of request, requested articles; but in honesty, the take-up there is very low.
- A better place to ask might be WT:WikiProject Nepal, as people reading that already have some interest in Nepal.
- Alternatively, you could try writing an article yourself. This is challenging, especially for new editors, but it is possible: see your first article.
- Your first task would be finding sources that establish that he meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability: as a member of a provincial assembly, he almost certainly does; but you still need to find sources which are reliable, independent, and have significant coverage of him as an individual. I've only looked at the first three of your references, but none of them contain very much information about him (i.e. they lack "significant coverage"). ColinFine (talk) 09:06, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
submitting my page for official publishing
Hi how do i submit my wiki page for official publishing Chocolate Tribe VFX & Animation Studio (talk) 07:47, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- OP blocked. 331dot (talk) 07:54, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Josiah Royce entry
Something has gone awry in the top section of this entry. Can you please fix it or explain how to fix it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josiah_Royce 24.177.76.233 (talk) 10:26, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Done – A right hand bracket ("]") had been missed out by an IP editor. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 10:47, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
REQUESTING WIKIPEDIA TO CREATE A PROFILE FOR ROSÉ FROM BLACKPINK
Upon doing thourough research in Google, Rosé from Blackpink “Aussie Girl” is the only member has no Wikipedia profile. Please she deserved to get her profile, too.
- From Loving Blackpink Fan 2404:3C00:C04F:2EA0:974:ED79:9A1:57C6 (talk) 10:52, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Please see my answer to #Please Add info of Honbl,Ram Prasad Dhungana on wikipedia above. ColinFine (talk) 10:53, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- It is here Rosé Lightoil (talk) 12:08, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- We don't have "profiles" here, not a single one. We have articles. 331dot (talk) 13:01, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
asmaka mahajanapada details are not mentioned in telangana history
Dear Wikipedia, I would like to inform you that Asmaka mahajanapa was located in current Telanagana and Maharastra. However, Asmaka mahajanapa details are not mentioned as a part of Telanagana history. We request you to update details in Telanagana history. Below links FYR.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asmaka https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telangana 178.20.22.2 (talk) 10:55, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- The best place for you to submit this request is the talk page of the Telangana article. Maproom (talk) 11:13, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
new wikipedia listing
Hi--I have been trying to list a Wikipedia page for myself, Kathy Borchers. So far I can't get it in the Wikipedia search. Would you be able to help me? Thanks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kathy_Borchers
```` Kathy Borchers (talk) 13:05, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- This is on your user page User:Kathy Borchers so it isn't an article. A user page shouldn't be used to create articles as the proper way to do this is through a draft, see your first article. However, the material here looks too promotional and thinly sourced for an article, and you should avoid creating an article about yourself.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 13:13, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Kathy Borchers. As pointed out above, you created a Wikipedia user page not a Wikipedia article. If you want to create the later, I suggest you take a look at Wikipedia:The answer to life, the universe, and everything, Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, Wikipedia:Notability (people), Wikipedia:Autobiography and Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing in addition to pages suggested above by IanMacM. I also suggest you take a look at Wikipedia:User pages#What may I have in my user pages?. Generally, a user page isn't the best place to try and create a new article and you should consider moving the content to a userspace draft instead. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:59, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Kathy Borchers: All of the above is true, but the fundamental issue is notability. If a subject is not notable by our definition, then the article cannot be salvaged and it will be deleted. We can fix anything else, but if the subject is not notable you are wasting your time and ours. -Arch dude (talk) 15:24, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Are these sources likely to make an article notable
Hi,
I am writing a section about a suspected Viking-era fortification and have just got access to a bunch of newspaper articles about it and was planning to expand the section based on them. However, the section is already taking up a large part of the page and I was wondering about spinning it off into its own article. However, I am not sure it would be notable so I was wondering if someone could offer an opinion on that before I started drafting an independent page.
The main sources are:
- Morley, Claude; Cooper, Ernest R. (1924). "The Sea Port of Frostenden" (PDF). Proceedings of Suffolk Institute of Archaeology. XVIII (3): 167–179. - repeated in Cooper's two books and a newspaper article he wrote.
- "Ship burial in Suffolk: Another Sutton Hoo?: Excavation at Domesday port". East Anglian Daily Times. January 22, 1951. p. 5.
- "More Discoveries At Frostenden: Hope of Finding Saxon Ship Burial". Eastern Daily Press. 1951-02-01.
- An article in the Halesworth Times also about the excavation in 1951.
There is also a Lowestoft Press and Journal article from this time but I don't have access to it so I can't cite. There is also Raffield, Ben (2013). "Antiquarians, Archaeologists, and Viking Fortifications". Journal of the North Atlantic. 5 (20): 1–29. doi:10.3721/037.004.m602. ISSN 1935-1984. S2CID 163097688. but the discussion in that is possibly trivial and probably WP:INDISCRIMINATE.
Thank-you in advance and best wishes, ~ El D. (talk to me) 13:57, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- @El komodos drago Assuming this is about Frostenden, I don't think that a WP:SIZESPLIT is justified yet. Your sources may well make a split viable on grounds of notability, although I don't think that the 1951 press articles are very significant. I'd expect the Viking fortification to have attracted a set of more diverse academic sources by now if it were really significant and hence worthy of independent note. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:05, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. Sorry for not linking the article, I appear to have forgot. ~ El D. (talk to me) 16:07, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
"This activity has been automatically marked as malicious activity and therefore not accepted." problem
I want to make changes to my article. All the information I have included is in accordance with the structure and rules of wikipedia. All information has officially verified references. But when I try to edit it says "This activity has been automatically marked as malicious activity and therefore not accepted. If you are sure that your edit is constructive, please explain to one of the administrators what you want to do. A brief description of the rules applicable to your activity: Private Box extracting a long piece of text without" How can I solve this? Ajab555 (talk) 14:40, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Which article? What changes were you trying to make? AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:42, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- I believe this is about the edits in Azerbaijani Wikipedia: https://az.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=X%C3%BCsusi:AbuseLog&wpSearchUser=Ajab555. @Ajab555: you should ask help from Azerbaijani Wikipedia, perhaps from az:Vikipediya:Kənd meydanı. MKFI (talk) 14:49, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- I am employee in Azerbaijan Public Employment Agency (Dövlət Məşğulluq Agentliyi). One of our former employees who was responsible for this case posted information about the company. I want to change that information and add our official information to the article according to reality. The article follows: https://az.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%B6vl%C9%99t_M%C9%99%C5%9F%C4%9Fulluq_Agentliyi_(Az%C9%99rbaycan) Ajab555 (talk) 07:25, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- As MKFI suggests, the English Wikipedia isn't responsible for what goes on at Azerbaijani Wikipedia. However I can tell you that the problem you describe is that you are not using meaningful edit summaries. -- zzuuzz (talk) 07:36, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Ajab555: I've looked again at the problem. You need to use an edit summary, and keep each change relatively small (under 1000 bytes). It's not a well written filter. If you want to highlight a problem with the filter you could use an edit summary containing "→,ilə dəyişdirildi,Etiketlər,Etiket", but I don't recommend that. -- zzuuzz (talk) 08:07, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- As MKFI suggests, the English Wikipedia isn't responsible for what goes on at Azerbaijani Wikipedia. However I can tell you that the problem you describe is that you are not using meaningful edit summaries. -- zzuuzz (talk) 07:36, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Photo upload on a draft
Draft page Lixin Wang https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Draft:Lixin_Wang&action=submit I created a draft for a wiki page the draft got deleted to my knowledge since I did not save it. I am using the same account to try and recreate the same page using the same text and photo but keep getting flagged due to using the same image/file as my previous draft. Is there anyway to still use the same photo/file or do I need to use a totally new image? or is it possible to get my old draft back? Hydrology-Car (talk) 15:34, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hydrology-Car Images are not relevant to the draft approval process, which only considers the text and sources. You don't need to worry about images until the draft is placed in the encyclopedia.
- If you did not click "publish changes"(which means save) your work is unfortunately lost. That shouldn't affect the use of an image. 331dot (talk) 15:38, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hello Thank you for your reply. When I try and add my image to my new draft it comes up with this "This file is a duplicate of the following file:
- Lixin_Wang_CA.jpg" and if I click the file it shows that a draft was made by me on April 5th 2023 which was when I made my original draft. Does this mean I can not add that same photo/file now? Hydrology-Car (talk) 15:45, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Note that uploading an image, and using it in an article, are two completely separate operations. ColinFine (talk) 16:05, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Hydrology-Car You uploaded the image to Wikimedia Commons, which is a separate area to the English Wikipedia. As such the file is still there at c:File:LixinwangCA.png and there is no need to upload another (that's why you are getting the error message). Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:47, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Hydrology-Car: Did you take File:LixinwangCA.png yourself? There's no information provided (e.g. source url, exif data) to allow verification of your claim of "own work". If you did take the photo yourself, you can aid in the verification process by following the instructions given here or in the template I added to the file's page. If you didn't take the photo yourself, then it's not your "own work" and you can't claim it as such. In that case, you should follow the instructions given here. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:25, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
@Qhairun:
The user "Qhairun", on the "Timeline of events in the Cold War" page, has undone all my changes, restoring all errors, including the wrong dashes. There's nothing I can do, a rollback is indispensable. In English grammar (as in Italian), after the colon the lowercase letter must be indicated. JackkBrown (talk) 16:05, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- @JackkBrown: Have you tried discussing this with Qhairun at all? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:09, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- The latter has apparently realized their error and (mostly) reverted their reversions. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 16:48, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Edits reverted
The Gloucester Light Infantry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloucester_Light_Infantry title and in body are misspelled. The town of Glocester of Rhode Island is it's correct spelling my edits keep being reverted. Cblaze401 (talk) 17:52, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- This citation "Gloucester Light Infantry R.I.M. – the Rhode Island Historical Society". would appear to disagree. do you have a citation that supports your claim? Martin of Sheffield (talk) 18:15, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- According to Glocester, Rhode Island the town was called "Gloucester" until 1806. -- Random person no 362478479 (talk) 19:24, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Referencing errors on Lucille Kyvallos
Reference help requested. I can't tell which reference has the error and whether it needs to be corrected in the reference list or in the text of the page. Thank you1 Thanks, BQE2021 (talk) 20:13, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- @BQE2021, I notice that
{{Cite journal |date=2017-03-10 |title=2017 Athletic Hall of Fame Inductee Spotlight: Lucille Kyvallos '55 |url=https://springfieldcollegepride.com/sports/wbkb/2016-17/releases/20170307fczvx0 |language=en}}
doesn't include the name of the journal, only the title of the journal article. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 21:15, 19 April 2023 (UTC)- @BQE2021: Fixed by changing to {{cite web}}. Also added
|publisher=Springfield College Athletics
. GoingBatty (talk) 21:39, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- @BQE2021: Fixed by changing to {{cite web}}. Also added
What style of Infobox should be used for American Cities
Recently, a lot of infoboxes for major cities have undergone changes in how the capitons are placed under images. This is in contradiction with this, However I wanted to see if this change in infobox style was done under consensus. If not, where would be the place to find consensus on it. Please let me know ASAP, using the Ping template is prefered. Thanks WeaponizingArchitecture | scream at me 22:15, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- You haven't specified what the changes are you are talking about, or even given an example of an article, so I for one have no idea what you are talking about. The guideline you link to says nothing whatsoever about captions. But if you want to discuss this, I suggest either Template talk:Infobox settlement or WT:WikiProject Cities, but please be clearer about what you are talking about. ColinFine (talk) 23:11, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
April 20
Malfunction in personal userbox
I am trying to create a personal userbox, User:Mandruss/UBX/AntiTikTok, using the userbox User:Mandruss/UBX/Signature as a working example. In the new userbox, the |id=
parameter is not being processed as I expected. It should show a small version of the specified image at the left side of the userbox, as in the working example. What am I missing? ―Mandruss ☎ 02:12, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Mandruss: File:Bajs.jpg is on MediaWiki:Bad image list so it cannot be displayed outside its file page. Choose another image. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:59, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Amazing. Censoring images of poop, lest somebody be offended. Now I remember why I semi-retired. Thanks. ―Mandruss ☎ 10:41, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Mandruss: MediaWiki talk:Bad image list says: "Images on the list have normally been used for widespread vandalism where user blocks and page protections are impractical." Feces has several poop images. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:25, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Yes it does, and the only one remotely suitable for my purpose is File:Human_Feces.jpg, which is blocked from use everywhere except Feces and Human feces. Presumably those with delicate sensitivities don't go to those articles, so it's ok to show poop there. ―Mandruss ☎ 13:33, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- I'd suggest that regardless if you can, putting a pile of poop on your userpage isn't likely to further the production of an encyclopedia. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 15:18, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- True, and the same applies to almost every userbox. It doesn't further the production of an encyclopedia to tell the world what your favorite video game is, or that you have visited New Hampshire. And yet we allow that and countless other similar cases, or at least tolerate them, which is effectively the same thing. I've never even seen anything negative said about those userboxes. This tells me the community feels that, at least in the case of userboxes, editor self-expression is more important than furthering the production of the encyclopedia. The community has spoken. ―Mandruss ☎ 15:53, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- I speculate the community might not speak the same way about feces. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 18:59, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- True, and the same applies to almost every userbox. It doesn't further the production of an encyclopedia to tell the world what your favorite video game is, or that you have visited New Hampshire. And yet we allow that and countless other similar cases, or at least tolerate them, which is effectively the same thing. I've never even seen anything negative said about those userboxes. This tells me the community feels that, at least in the case of userboxes, editor self-expression is more important than furthering the production of the encyclopedia. The community has spoken. ―Mandruss ☎ 15:53, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- I'd suggest that regardless if you can, putting a pile of poop on your userpage isn't likely to further the production of an encyclopedia. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 15:18, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Yes it does, and the only one remotely suitable for my purpose is File:Human_Feces.jpg, which is blocked from use everywhere except Feces and Human feces. Presumably those with delicate sensitivities don't go to those articles, so it's ok to show poop there. ―Mandruss ☎ 13:33, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Mandruss: MediaWiki talk:Bad image list says: "Images on the list have normally been used for widespread vandalism where user blocks and page protections are impractical." Feces has several poop images. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:25, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Amazing. Censoring images of poop, lest somebody be offended. Now I remember why I semi-retired. Thanks. ―Mandruss ☎ 10:41, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Geography archeology dots
Sometimes I would go into pages that is related to history and would see three red dots. Like for example would see it on the Eboracum page on the map. Sometimes it would be on ancient sites dating thousands of years ago or just a few hundred years ago. But in some case it would be one big dots eve on ancient related page. I've always wonder about the three dots. Edwardadrian (talk) 02:30, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Edwardadrian: That appears to be how Template:Infobox ancient site chooses to mark the location of the article subject on the map. Other templates may (and do) mark locations in other ways. My guess is that a page showing "one big dot" is using a different template (for whatever reason), but it's impossible to be certain without an example to refer to. ―Mandruss ☎ 02:41, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Edwardadrian: Yes, {{Infobox ancient site}} uses File:Archaeological site icon (red).svg. Three dots in a triangle is an icon for historic sites and has its own Unicode character U+26EC Historic Site with a redirect on ⛬. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:20, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
I want the Wikipedia to be more authentic source of content
Respected! It is a kind suggestion that allowing any to edit content could lead to vulnerability of the site content. Please don't allow any one to edit the source otherwise it could be replaced with the fake content. In order to edit or post the content author must be registered to a reputed institute, so that the content posted by author is valid not fake content before publishing his content similar to journal or research publish by the author or first validated before publication. 182.183.136.64 (talk) 05:30, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Your suggestion is certainly an interesting one. I wish to draw your attention to Scholarpedia, which has implemented a process similar to the one you suggest. It's unlikely that this proposal would be adopted here, however. Shells-shells (talk) 05:48, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- You're almost certainly not the first person to suggest something like this and you won't be the last. However, I think this question was decided very early when Wikipedia was just starting and the side in favor of keeping Wikipedia "the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit" won the day. If you're interested in learning more about the beginning of Wikipedia, the article History of Wikipedia goes into more detail. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:59, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Your suggestion that someone should be "registered to a reputed institute" is a pathway to stagnation. It might work fine for active academic subjects but would exclude those with a professional knowledge gained in industry or the best sort of amateurs who have studied long and hard in their own time. It's bad enough trying to get to sources when you are outside academe but to block such editors would destroy the project. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 07:32, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Page Issue
I have edited my page, but page is not working [[John Samuel Malayalam Writer|John Samuel Malayalam Writer]] (talk) 08:58, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- See your talk page. AndyTheGrump (talk) 09:02, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)User:John Samuel Malayalam Writer, as is clearly explained on your talk page, the article John Samuel Malayalam Writer has been deleted "because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising". Please note such a page is NOT "your" page, but Wikipedia's page, and must conform to wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Please stop trying to use Wikipedia to promote yourself. Arjayay (talk) 09:05, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Moving A Drafted Wikipedia to Another User
How can I move an editing draft to another person/account? I could not find any information about this on the internet. Mechka med (talk) 16:26, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Mechka med: Wikipedia is a collaborative project. Nobody "owns" a draft, even it it's a user subpage, although by convention I think most editors defer to the user for user's subpages. I suggest you move your draft into "draft" space if ti is not already there. You accomplish this by using the "move" button. -Arch dude (talk) 16:33, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Mechka med: If this is about Draft:James Vaughn Warren, then it is already in "draft" space and does not belong to you. It belongs to all interested editors. -Arch dude (talk) 16:37, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
AI
Does WIKI use AI to create any content 8.45.30.175 (talk) 18:53, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Sometimes. See Wikipedia:Artificial intelligence. Shantavira|feed me 19:21, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
editing 181.9.199.25 (talk) 21:05, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
How can I get my page assessed?
A few weeks ago I created the page Morley Vernon King. Is there any way I can get it assessed by Wikiprojects? Comitialbulb561 (talk) 21:17, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- I think you're asking about getting the various WikiProjects added to the talk page, which will notify them? You can do that yourself. If you take a look at the code on the talk page for a similar article, you can get an idea of which projects to add. Valereee (talk) 21:34, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Comitialbulb561 (forgot to ping). Valereee (talk) 21:35, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Referencing errors on Battle of Tora Bora
Reference help requested. Hello, new editor here. A bot has just informed me about an apparent error reference in this edit I made on this article. I am still learning how to edit and not quite understanding everything. I have been struggling from the start on how to correctly add citations as I am quite technically illiterate and I quickly lose track of everything, especially since I have been writing simultaneously so effectively multitasking (the show preview feature is really a great help in this respect.) I want to fix the citation errors of course, but I am not quite sure what the error even is or which citation exactly is the issue in this case. I cited multiple sources in that session and can't even tell which one is causing the issue, much less how to fix it. Furthermore, it is difficult to keep track of since everything appears to be working. The bot says something about a "missing periodical", but even after reading that wiki page I still don't understand exactly what that even means. Would anyone be so kind as to help me understand how to fix this referencing error? Thanks, Fanatizka (talk) 23:03, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- It appears this error has already been resolved, but the issue was that the {{cite journal}} template you added in the second paragraph of that edit requires a journal name, but none was provided (likely because the linked document was not taken from a journal). If you happen to have this same issue in the future, changing the citation template to {{cite web}} should fix it. Tollens (talk) 23:39, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- I see, thanks for the response. The citation was to an online PDF file, which I mistakenly thought was what the cite journal was for since it didn't auto-fill in for the URL like the other citations did. I will use the ((cite web)) template when in doubt in the future. Thank you. Fanatizka (talk) 23:58, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Wikipedia keep coming back to mobile version even I switched to desktop.
Why my wikipedia in chrome mobile keep coming back to mobile mode even I switched in desktop mode? Pls help. Thanks. Rendell1234 (talk) 23:03, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Enable mobile version. You can also paste this into your "Shared CSS/JavaScript for all skins:" in your preferences
- (function () {
- // Find the link used to switch to the desktop view.
- var desktopLink = document.getElementById("mw-mf-display-toggle");
- if (desktopLink === null) {
- return;
- }
- var href = desktopLink.getAttribute('href')
- // Make sure we're not already in the desktop view, which could lead to
- // an infinite loop.
- if (href.indexOf('.m.') > -1) {
- return;
- }
- // Navigate to the new URL, replacing the history element, as if we were
- // never on the mobile site! You can use .assign() instead, if you want to
- // keep the URL of the mobile site in your history.
- window.location.replace(href);
- })()
- PalauanReich (talk) 23:11, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Also this happen when I clear data on chrome. If I switch it to desktop in google search and going to wikipedia, the website goes back to mobile version. But even I removed the "m" on it, it still on mobile. But if I switch to desktop on goofle chrome settings, still on mobile bjt in larger desktop version, I need only to remove the "m" if I switched to to "desktop" in chrome on wikipedia itself. Pls help because I don't want mobile version of wikipedia since 2015. Rendell1234 (talk) 23:17, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- As I said, paste that into your shart css/javascript and it should work. If you want more info, see this forum post PalauanReich (talk) 01:31, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- Also this happen when I clear data on chrome. If I switch it to desktop in google search and going to wikipedia, the website goes back to mobile version. But even I removed the "m" on it, it still on mobile. But if I switch to desktop on goofle chrome settings, still on mobile bjt in larger desktop version, I need only to remove the "m" if I switched to to "desktop" in chrome on wikipedia itself. Pls help because I don't want mobile version of wikipedia since 2015. Rendell1234 (talk) 23:17, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
April 21
Adding or changing an image in solar eclipse infobox
I haven't figured out how to edit images of the solar eclipses. Someone who knows how infobox works could help me out on this. MarioJump83 (talk) 02:29, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- @MarioJump83: Someone would need to upload a new image to Wikipedia (or Wikimedia Commons) and then someone could edit the infobox to reference the new image. If you could please provide the name of the article, we could provide more detailed instructions. GoingBatty (talk) 02:46, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- Solar eclipse of April 20, 2023. There is an image for total solar eclipse in East Timor rather than partial eclipses on Indonesia, but I could not change it myself. There's also a lot of images for Solar eclipse of March 7, 1970 in Wikimedia Commons which hasn't added into the infobox just yet. I intend to add an image to the infobox the way they did on the April 20, 2023 article. MarioJump83 (talk) 03:03, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- @MarioJump83: Well, {{Infobox solar eclipse}} seems to work differently from other infoboxes, as it "uses information from the NASA Solar Eclipse Database". Overriding the image with the
|image=
parameter didn't seem to work for me. I suggest asking at Template talk:Infobox solar eclipse if you don't receive a response here. GoingBatty (talk) 03:24, 21 April 2023 (UTC)- That's disappointing. The infobox is probably overly complex for me to understand. MarioJump83 (talk) 04:22, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- @MarioJump83: The image is decided by [3] in Module:Solar eclipse/db/200 which is for 2001–2050. Module:Solar eclipse/db/195 is for 1951–2000. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:38, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- That's disappointing. The infobox is probably overly complex for me to understand. MarioJump83 (talk) 04:22, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- @MarioJump83: Well, {{Infobox solar eclipse}} seems to work differently from other infoboxes, as it "uses information from the NASA Solar Eclipse Database". Overriding the image with the
- Solar eclipse of April 20, 2023. There is an image for total solar eclipse in East Timor rather than partial eclipses on Indonesia, but I could not change it myself. There's also a lot of images for Solar eclipse of March 7, 1970 in Wikimedia Commons which hasn't added into the infobox just yet. I intend to add an image to the infobox the way they did on the April 20, 2023 article. MarioJump83 (talk) 03:03, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
Looking for categorization reporting tool
Hi there! I'm looking for a tool that would do the following:
- Allow you to enter a page (from any namespace) and a category
- If the page is included in a subcategory, then return a result showing the entire category path from the category entered to the category on the page (i.e. category, sub-category, sub-sub-category,...)
I'm asking because I've created a recursive list of talk pages within Category:Wikipedia infobox backlog, and many of the pages in the result don't seem to have a parameter such as |needs-infobox=yes
. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 02:55, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
In the "Categories" section at the bottom of this page - please add the link Liberal Unionist Party as well as Harriet Martineau and James Martineau. These links appear to be certainly relevant. Thanks 175.38.42.62 (talk) 03:01, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi there! The links you mentioned are articles, not categories. The articles you mentioned are already linked within the body of the Martineau family article. I suggest you reword your request on the article's talk page: Talk:Martineau family. GoingBatty (talk) 03:18, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, I don't quite get what you mean, so I'll keep out of it. Thank you again 175.38.42.62 (talk) 09:07, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not sure you know what categories are. If you click "Catherine, Princess of Wales" after "Categories:" on Martineau family then you are not taken to an article but to Category:Catherine, Princess of Wales. See more at Help:Category. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:19, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, I don't quite get what you mean, so I'll keep out of it. Thank you again 175.38.42.62 (talk) 09:07, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
Moving article when target article is its redirect
Hi, I'm trying to change the name of Muvattupuzha Taluk to Muvattupuzha taluk as "taluk" is part of the descriptor, not the title, and it is not normally capitalized in prose. The latter article already exists, though, as a redirect to the former. I'm not able to complete the move. Is there a quick way to resolve this? (There is very inconsistent capitalization among many article titles like this, so I want to be able to do it myself if possible!) Thanks!! Wracking 💬 09:54, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- As an extended confirmed user you should be able to move an article to a new name which is currently a redirect without history. As Muvattupuzha taluk has some history you will probably need to use Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests, which is fairly quick as long as no one objects. TSventon (talk) 10:17, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- Got it, thanks! Wracking 💬 10:36, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
Looking for support
looking for a support 197.255.196.190 (talk) 13:54, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi there! How can we help you with Wikipedia? GoingBatty (talk) 14:28, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
Username change
Hi all. I'm here to ask about changing my username and if it's possible. I know there is a policy for whether or not it is deemed appropriate to change one's name yet I am not sure where to find it. The reason I want to change it is mainly because I just don't like it—it resonates with me in an improper way, is at least somewhat immature in my eyes, and, additionally, the name carries a lot of history/baggage behind it that I don't want people seeking out so easily as it was created when I was in a younger, less mature age, when I did not care so much about digital footprint (this, of course, has changed). I am here to ask what the policy for username changes is, what effects it can have (will it also affect my Wikibooks, Wikidata, etc. accounts?), and if I should even go about it or if it's just too much effort for a trivial matter. I am really quite conflicted here. - Cheers, KoolKidz112 (hit me up) 14:10, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- Guidance is at Wikipedia:Changing username. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:14, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you, I will look over it. - Cheers, KoolKidz112 (hit me up) 14:20, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
How to efficiently determine who introduced a claim into an article?
One of the ways I often edit is because I'm interested in a topic so I want to read beyond the Wikipedia article, including reading the cited sources. One issue I've seen a lot is that someone will make some claim in an article and I'll think it sounds kind of dubious, so I read the cites and those cites don't actually make the claim which the article text makes (and thus claims that the cite supports). So I'll say "WTF? No, article does not say that" and take it out.
Sometimes these bad cites seem to me like someone is deliberately misrepresenting something, and I want to figure out who was responsible and punish them somehow. I acknowledge of course that we should assume good faith, and we (even outside of Wikipedia) we should not ascribe to malice what can be explained by poor reading comprehension. But even so, I kind of want to slap the relevant accounts with some sort of "You did a reading comprehension fail, please read sources more carefully in future" thing. Even if it's just me whining on people's talk pages or something.
The problem is that I don't know a good way to efficiently identify the edit which introduced a cited claim. I mean, I'm pretty technically sophisticated, so I guess I could do a lot of programming and implement something, but I would think/hope some kind of fuzzy "where did most of these words in about this position in the article probably come from" had already been created because I hate doing work. Or that at least that some people had the same kind of feeling of wanting to figure out who screwed this article up in this way originally happened, and tried to think about what to do with it.
The fundamental problem is that it's extremely low-cost to introduce something wrong into an article and cite some news story about the article's subject which doesn't actually support it, at least compared to accurately verifying that the cite does not actually support the claim which cites it. So my brain naturally wants to do something to balance these costs out somehow. IDK, maybe it's a lost cause. Or maybe, even if there is some good way to determine who introduced some claim, making fun of them for bad reading comprehension isn't a good solution or good for Wikipedia community. I'm willing to accept these things. Nevertheless, what prior work, if any, exists for how-do-I-figure-out-who-originally-added-X-to-article? Dingsuntil (talk) 14:29, 21 April 2023 (UTC)