User talk:AtFirstLight

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Peaceray (talk) 17:01, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Teahouse Invitation

Hello! AtFirstLight, you are invited to the Teahouse, a forum on Wikipedia for new editors to ask questions about editing Wikipedia, and get support from peers and experienced editors. Please join us! Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 23:17, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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— Nythar (💬-🍀) 07:41, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Partial block

You have been blocked from the article Junkyard tornado for a month for persistent tendentious and aggressive pro-fringe editing. Note that you can still edit the article's talkpage (as well as all the rest of Wikipedia), although I will recommend you to avoid attacks such as linking to WP:JERK, or you may be in more trouble.

I see on the talkpage that you're under the mistaken impression that it would be appropriate to "request arbitration" about this kind of thing. No, the arbitration committee consists of volunteers just like you and me, and it's not possible for them to take on every disagreement, especially not concerning things they have already made a determination about. See Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Pseudoscience. Though of course you are free to try. Bishonen | tålk 08:13, 6 May 2023 (UTC).[reply]

An Arbitration Committee workshop from 2006 is not the place to enquire about an active block applied in 2023. You can ask the blocking administrator about the reasons for the block here, or on their talk page. Girth Summit _(blether) 08:33, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The blocking administrator is the person who signed the post saying that you were blocked. Their username is Bishonen. I personally think that they have explained very clearly why you are blocked already, but if you really want clarification, it is their talk page you need to go to. Girth Summit _(blether) 09:05, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Girth Summit. AtFirstLight, I'm sorry, I forgot to mention that you can request unblock from an uninvolved administrator by placing {{unblock|your reason here}} on this page. Bishonen | tålk 09:10, 6 May 2023 (UTC).[reply]

Thanks, waiting to hear back from User:Bishonen for the reason so I can petition it. AtFirstLight (talk) 09:17, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, AtFirstLight. You have addressed me on my page, but since you're also talking here, we might as well keep it here. I don't understand the bit about my boilerplate. (Or Wikipedia's boilerplate?) Are you referring to the Contentious Topics alert that Nythar gave you just before I blocked you, in the section above? That's actually not connected with my block. Nythar posted it while I was thinking about blocking you, reading your contributions, and writing up an explanatory (as I thought) note about the block for your page. I haven't blocked you per any special admin powers adhering to contentious topics, but merely given you a standard block for, as I said, persistent tendentious and aggressive pro-fringe editing. I'm sorry I misled you into thinking the workshop of the old pseudoscience arbitration case was the place to discuss your block. I mentioned the arbcase in my post above merely to illustrate the fact that ArbCom has already dealt with pseudoscience and fringe science, and are therefore unlikely to accept a case about the disagreement between you and Hob Gadling. The interesting part of the case for you is the front page — the page I linked to — its second half, called Final decision. You can read that to see the committee's findings about how to handle pseudoscience on Wikipedia. Also, did you follow the links I gave you for "tendentious and aggressive pro-fringe editing"? They were meant to be explanatory, too. I'm not sure what more I can say. As I said, if you want to appeal the block to an uninvolved admin, you should use the template {{unblock|your reason here}}. Copy it just as it appears here on the page, curly brackets and all, replace "your reason here" with the actual reasons you think you should be unblocked, and post it below. Bishonen | tålk 09:40, 6 May 2023 (UTC).[reply]

Thanks for getting back to me, it was a bit confusing there!

I understand the words tendentious and aggressive, but am at a loss as to why you feel these apply to my edits. Without knowing what I have done wrong, I'm not able to appeal. I hope you appreciate my situation. AtFirstLight (talk) 10:10, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]