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The result was delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 23:35, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- 94.3 The Fish (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:SIGCOV Alexeyevitch(talk) 19:04, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Nothing found in a cursory web search; maybe someone with access to NZ news archives could find something, but I'm not seeing any coverage at all, significant or not. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 11:54, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Really unfortunate that we lack the paper for this. There is actually a really interesting sidelight I was able to cite elsewhere from the only remotely relevant available article: a 2006 article indicates that The Fish inspired the founder of Hell Pizza! Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 23:15, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 20:11, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- Morrinsville Sports (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails basic notability guidelines. Alexeyevitch(talk) 19:04, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Fails WP:ORGCRIT.4meter4 (talk) 19:08, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 09:34, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Annette Jones (architect) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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An orphan article. An unremarkable career that does not meet WP:ARCHITECT. Source 1 is merely a registration database, sources 3 and 5 are primary. LibStar (talk) 05:38, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment. Not seeing a notification of the creator, MurielMary, who might be able to explain why they believed notability requirements were met. Espresso Addict (talk) 23:33, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Relisting, LibStar, please post an AFD notification to User:MurielMary as you should have when you listed this discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:23, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Passes criteria 4c of WP:CREATIVE and WP:SIGCOV per the source by Cox and Women in New Zealand Architecture: A Literature Review in Society of Architectural Historians, Australia and New Zealand. This latter journal highlights that Jones was specifically featured in prominent exhibitions in New Zealand women architects and was featured prominently in the November-December 1993 issue of Architecture New Zealand magazine.4meter4 (talk) 05:35, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep meets criteria 1 of the architect notability criteria: the person is regarded as an important figure, as evidenced by inclusion in Cox's work. MurielMary (talk) 08:36, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Whilst Elizabeth Cox's source goes to GNG the source on it's own isn't enough to establish notability as the rest of the sources are non-independent or non-RS. There doesn't even seem to be mention of anything she's designed, which suggests she isn't notable too. Traumnovelle (talk) 03:35, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- To add: if there is sigcov of her work that'd go towards coverage of her and might sway my vote depending on how much and how in depth it is. Traumnovelle (talk) 08:01, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 07:37, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- This is a really difficult one because I can't find any information at all on her in a BEFORE search that isn't primary or even LinkedIn. The Auckland Library does have three items related to her architectural work. The literature review above only mentions her twice but says there was a topic box dedicated to her in a 1993 magazine, and the Cox book highlights many female architects. My overall sense is we haven't currently demonstrated she's notable enough for an article, and the article as currently written doesn't show she's clearly notable, but in the big grey void of deletion she's not completely non-notable either. Another source would go a long way here. SportingFlyer T·C 23:30, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion.
In the future, LibStar, inform the article creator when you nominate an article for deletion. This is aided by using Twinkle to tag pages for AFDs. Liz Read! Talk! 05:12, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Kimberly Browne (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:ARCHITECT. An unremarkable career. 3rd source is her employer, 2nd source is a media release. LibStar (talk) 03:57, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - does not appear to pass WP:GNG - Google News apparently only turns up false positives. starship.paint (talk / cont) 07:56, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. Not seeing a notification of the creator, MurielMary, who might be able to explain why they believed notability requirements were met. Espresso Addict (talk) 23:35, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 11:27, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- The Bellbirds (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Corresponding to the tag that has been sitting on the page for 11 years, it looks like they completely fail WP:NBAND. Geschichte (talk) 06:42, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - only four news articles on the band, and each only gives them a mention, no in-depth coverage. starship.paint (talk / cont) 08:08, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete this does not get close to WP:GNG or WP:NBAND. The references in the article do not establish notability for the band with the scanty discussion of the subject. Mekomo (talk) 10:57, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Alexeyevitch(talk) 11:01, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete but previous commenters need to be less sloppy in their appraisal. This source[1] from the article can comfortably considered "in-depth coverage". However that is really all I can find. This band appears to be a side-project of some otherwise notable musicians, so perhaps could just be mentioned as such on their individual articles. David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 00:44, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
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- ^ "Bellbirds are in song", Stuff, 2010-10-20, archived from the original on 2017-08-12, retrieved 2024-11-13
- Delete: Fails WP:NBAND. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 03:46, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 23:43, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- South Island Kea (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Stub article, doesn’t meet threshold required by WP:NSPORT. Is about a potential rugby league team but way below the standard of other similar articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caerlayheh (talk • contribs) 22:13, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Enter article is crystal of a team that could exist at some given point. Mn1548 (talk) 14:07, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete way, way WP:TOOSOON. David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 00:46, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:TOOSOON. Suonii180 (talk) 01:42, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Nothing to establish notability here. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 19:19, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 23:44, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- Mike Antunovic (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article has been tagged for notability since 2012. This lawyer has participated in a couple of notable trials, but that does not make the subject himself notable per se. Muzilon (talk) 09:23, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak Delete No significant coverage. My own searches yield nothing other than discussions of his involvement in cases and some interviews. Barring something extraordinary about his representation he doesn't inherit notability from the cases. Oblivy (talk) 11:51, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Alexeyevitch(talk) 11:02, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep as I had a dig around and found some solid coverage. In 1999, he was the subject of a profile piece in the Evening Post titled "The Defense", related to his defence of Scott Watson.[1] He also received some coverage when he criticised the courts for remaining open to jury trials during covid.[2][3] I also found an example of himself—rather than his client—making headlines for his comments made in court.[4] There are articles about his work where his involvement is not merely a trivial mention, for example in this article he makes extensive comments about a breach of name suppression orders.[5] In another article from 2011 he comments on the role of the legal aid system as an expert, and is described as a "senior criminal lawyer [...] well-known for his work on high-profile murder cases".[6] David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 22:49, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- I applaud the effort seeking out sources which might support a keep, but this falls under what I described above with him getting discussed for his involvement in cases. The 1999 article is one piece of significant coverage. The Covid protest stuff is slightly less clear but I see it as him generating coverage about a single event. Based on this, particularly the 1999 article, I'm not inclined to change my vote but perhaps I'm at weak delete (if there is such a thing). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oblivy (talk • contribs) 14:09, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ Murdoch, Wendy (5 June 1999), "The Defense", The Evening Post – via Proquest
- ^ Nightingale, Melissa (2020-03-17), "Coronavirus: Lawyer criticises courts for continuing jury trials", NZ Herald, retrieved 2024-11-03
- ^ "Did This Lawyer's Coronavirus Concerns Lead To The Jury Trial Suspension", LawFuel, 2020-03-18, archived from the original on 2023-10-01, retrieved 2024-11-03
- ^ "Judge ticks off Watson lawyer over opening address", NZ Herald, 2000-06-30, retrieved 2024-11-03
- ^ "Defence lawyer calls suppression breach 'outrageous'", Otago Daily Times Online News, 2010-05-25, retrieved 2024-11-03
- ^ Morri, Deborah (2021-06-18), "Public defenders or private: battle lines", The Dominion Post, retrieved 2024-11-03 – via Pressreader
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- Delete since, despite the admirable efforts at discovery, subject remains bereft of sources confirming beyond doubt its notability. -The Gnome (talk) 14:37, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per the sources provided by Oblivy. Collectively passes WP:SIGCOV in my opinion. Fundamentally, this man is notable for his work as a lawyer. Excluding coverage of him for his work in cases, the primary aspect of his notability, seems like a spurious argument. Those sources are directly related to the primary reason he is encyclopedic, so they are pertinent to notability.4meter4 (talk) 18:41, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Then the article needs a major rewrite to incorporate the sources (which were found, I think, by User:Cloventt rather than User:Oblivy) that supposedly establish notability. Muzilon (talk) 01:06, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- @MuzilonWP:AFDISNOTCLEANUP and per policy at WP:NEXIST sources only have to be shown to exist and do not have to be present in the article. Feel free to add the sources to the article and work on it; but there is WP:NOTIMELIMIT.4meter4 (talk) 19:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
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