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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Brokesocscene (talk | contribs) at 20:17, 29 March 2011 (Leonard Cohen: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

A Note on threading:

Interpersonal communication does not work when messages are left on individual users' talk pages rather than threaded, especially when a third party wishes to read or reply.

Being a "bear of very little brain", I get easily confused when trying to follow conversations that bounce back and forth, so I've decided to try the convention that many others seem to use, aggregation of messages on either your talk page or my talk page. If the conversation is about an article I will try to aggregate on the article's talk page.

  • If the conversation is on your talk page or an article talk page, I will watch it.
  • If the conversation is on my talk page or an article talk page and I think that you may not be watching it, I will link to it in a note on your talk page, or in the edit summary of an empty edit. But if you start a thread here, please watch it.

I may mess up, don't worry, I'll find it eventually. Ping me if you really need to.

please note this is a personal preference rather than a matter of site policy

(From User:John/Pooh policy)


Re Third Policeman edit

Hi John, apologies I'm a wiki novice. The edit I made was not advertising as I see it. I get frustrated as all artists do that people misunderstand or fail to pick up on some of the allusions in some of my writing, that's why I linked the TP page to my lyrics for evil brother. I don't know if you spotted it but all my music is released freely under cc...I never advertise or use PR, my music is free. Lastly I'm a Brian O'Nolan scholar, my thesis was on Hiberno-English dialects and idioms and O'Nolans writing was at the centre of the modernist part, I've also written several critical essay on his other works, my favourite being ABB. Perhaps you can suggest a suitable wiki entry to replace the excised version, I would appreciate that.--Falconio78 (talk) 10:18, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for the slow response. You'd need to show third-party coverage to even be considered for a mention here. Can you do that? --John (talk) 01:17, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

is going to be submitted to FAC (I am not part of it), and my intuition is it needs much work on the prose. As I understand, there is no native speaker among those who were working on it recently. If you have time and wish, please have a look at it and fix whatever you see. If it becomes obvious that the article needs more than just brief fixes and is not ready, please post a note here. Regards. Materialscientist (talk) 06:12, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I will take a look. --John (talk) 06:14, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by tag comment

Without opining on the use of the tag, the tagger immediately posted this section on talk. Talk:Bradley_Manning#Manning.org_link. I do believe at least your stated reasoning that it was drive-by withouft comment on talk is mistaken.--Cube lurker (talk) 15:32, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I saw that. There are actually quite a number of issues with this user adding the tag, which I may go into later. Meantime I stand by what I said; I have also removed the link for now. --John (talk) 15:40, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As I said, I'm not contesting the possibility of other issues. If It were me I'd comment in that talk page section with clarification, but that's up to you.--Cube lurker (talk) 15:45, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I probably will do. --John (talk) 15:46, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Manchester United F.C.

Hello John, we all at the article at Manchester United F.C. managed to work out the issue, and there will be no longer dispute about the related issue. may you please open the article back to the protection it was few days ago, thanks in advance.
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 17:04, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --John (talk) 18:59, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Request for (simple) editing assistance

John -

Thanks for contacting me; I'm new to wikipedia, as you know (not even a year on board).

I'm having some difficulties with some of the "alternative" citation/reference methods; I'm not finding the info I need at the usual webpages. Who can I ask for remedial information, without annoying someone?

Here's an example question: How do I use the cit/ref system used at the Emily Dickinson page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Dickinson I can establish say "Wolff p. 55", but how do I link it to the reference (author/title/publisher/page)?

So far the editing methods I've use at other pages are discernable from looking at the edit pages and fooling around with them on sandbox; can't figure this one out. --Mysweetoldetc. 19:34, 5 March 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mysweetoldetc. (talkcontribs)

The Signpost: 7 March 2011

"Grammy nominated" in the lede/first sentence

Hi John, can you please point me to a rule that states we should not mention things like this in the lede/first sentence? --Garik 11 (talk) 20:17, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not a rule as such, but it looks like an example of WP:PEACOCK, especially without a cited source. It would be better in the body of the article than in the lede. --John (talk) 20:21, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Chernobyl

Hi John,

I have started a new section on the Chernobyl Disaster effects discussion page, and would invite you to respond.Leor klier (talk) 02:17, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you title this section "Battle of Chernobyl"? --John (talk) 02:17, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Because that is the name of the documentary referenced in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leor klier (talkcontribs) 02:20, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Got you. I will comment in article talk. --John (talk) 02:32, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 14 March 2011

The Bugle: Issue LX, February 2011

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Please, don't sentence me to more Iqinn, that's cruel and unusual.

I posted an answer to your post here: Talk:July_12,_2007_Baghdad_airstrike#A_journalist.27s_commentary_on_a_comedian.27s_commentary_is_NPOV_here.3F.— Preceding unsigned comment added by V7-sport (talkcontribs)

A well deserved barnstar

The Admin's Barnstar
A well deserved barnstar for paying attention to and courageously and honorably working to keep Wikipedia together in places where it really matters. Epipelagic (talk) 08:35, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks!--John (talk) 14:32, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 21 March 2011

Spike7744, who only seems to edit this article, repeatedly removes all reference to one of Scott's most high profile bands Lowgold. As a solo artist, Scott is largely unknown and wouldn't warrant an article without his involvement as a drummer in previous bands Slowdive and Lowgold. I have previously left a message on the talk page, which has been ignored.

As you are an established admin, could you please warn this user that they shouldn't be removing reference information from articles?

Thanks. 92.5.93.29 (talk) 17:58, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I will keep an eye on it. Thank you. --John (talk) 20:51, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 28 March 2011

Leonard Cohen

You reverted wholesale my dozen or so small revisions to the Leonard Cohen page. If you'd looked closely at each individual change, you'd see that most of them clarify poor sentences (in the 1970s tour section for example) and removed some strange unsourced attempts to vex lyrics. Someone ought to deal with that section. If you don't like my start on it, do it yourself. A few of my changes just improved the economy of sentences, like the small improvements I made to the 'lyrical themes' section, regarding the influence of his Jewishness. The section on the 2010 Tour was written in future tense, which I changed. If you have a problem with one or more of my little changes, please feel free to change them. Just don't revert all at once. The article needs a lot of streamlining. I was merely trying to help. (Oh, and in addition, numerous live DVD/live CD collections have been released of late, none of which are even mentioned on the page. One of my changes was to add a mention of the Isle of Wight DVD. It's been out for two or three years. It's just another example of how the page will not improve if you keep reverting.)Brokesocscene (talk) 20:17, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]