Talk:Half-Life 2

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Where is the "List of Characters" link?

When viewing a page about any series with a story line I expect to find a simple and easy link to the characters of the series, games or not. Where is the link to the main article of the Half Life 2 characters? I'm struggling to find it, and am now going to resort to google. Wikipedia should not be frustrating to navigate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.137.46.43 (talk) 20:02, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Half Life stopped to support NVIDIA??

There are rumours that Valve purposefully stopped to support NVIDIA graphics chipset?? I have an NVIDIA 7400 and Half Life 2, Episode 1 ... recently stopped working, apparently after a Steam online update. When you google the error message "failed to lock vertex buffer in CMeshDX8::LockVertexBuffer" you find over 1200 hits - NVIDIA users world wide experience the same problems. There was a blog message from a Valve staff member saying they cant do anything about it.

Do you guys know more about it? Are there NVIDIA users where HL2 still works?

90.152.160.220 (talk) 08:53, 22 March 2008 (UTC) Chris

Mine works. It sounds like another issue with source caused by "paged pool memory low" it can be solved by a registry fix (google it)

No Mp-7 and USP from H&K

He rights theres no Mp-7 and USP from H&K. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.77.107.176 (talk) 19:57, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Weapons article

Where is it and why has it been deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Preda (talk • contribs) 17:32, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

One of the common reasons for articles that list and describe objects is that it's simply not encyclopedic, and in the context of the game article, it goes out of bounds of what Wikipedia is. You have to remember that game articles in Wikipedia are not game guides.--BirdKr 20:00, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Soundtrack Remixes

Compared HL1 Soundtrack with HL2 Soundtrack but I just can't hear anything that differs HL2 Track 32 from HL1 Track 2. Page states that HL2 32 is a remix but it sound exaclty like HL1 2 where is the difference? HL2 Tracks 34, 41 & 42 are for sure Remixes as they differ very clear.

I can't hear any difference between HL2 track 32 and HL1 track 2 either. I also compared the waveforms, they looked virtually identical. I removed track 32 from the remix list until someone can prove it's a remix. 217.149.206.138 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 19:34, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Subsequent Releases

Shouldn't there be information about the current boxed releases down there? The most recent boxed version of HL2 no longer includes CS:S, but comes with deathmatch instead.

68.238.130.229 02:18, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

"Osama Bin Leaker"

'The game had been leaked by a German hacker named Axel G., also known as "Osama Bin Leaker".'

I followed HL2s development, leak and release quite closely and I've never heard of him being referred to as Osama Bin Leaker. I’m assuming this is vandalism unless someone thinks otherwise... Xep 21:58, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I never heard that term before, sounds like vandalism as well. --86.27.63.75 (talk) 15:15, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Actually "leak" means "vandalism". As for him being referred to "Osama Bin Leaker" I do not know. I'll have to read up on it again.Allen Kinser (talk)Allen Kinser —Preceding undated comment was added at 13:38, 17 September 2008 (UTC).

1984 and City 17

Has anyone else noticed that City 17 and Airstrip One are very alike? Cameras everywhere, watching your every move, Dr. Breen (or Big Brother) always everywhere on giant screen, etc. Should this be in the article, City 17's article, or not at all? Thanks. --ASDFGHJKL=Greatest Person Ever+Coolest Person Ever 15:10, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

No, that type of information is not encyclopedic. --Charleca 18:38, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

There used to be info in the article about the parallels between 1984 and the game, but were removed since they couldn't be sourced. I agree there are many similarities, but that's it. Thunderbrand 20:38, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

There surely must be an encyclopedic relevance to establish the literary links to this game. There are also many similarites to 'One flew over the cuckoo's nest' by Ken Kesey (down to calling the system of oppresion the Combine, the pronounced muteness of the main protagonists and exploration of somewhat similar themes) as well as The Tripods by John Christopher and War of the Worlds in terms of visual and thematic content. These sources are not hard to reference and the entry is incomplete without them. (Speakafreaka 09:39, 22 June 2007 (UTC))

Seems to me that information of that sort is useful and even "encyclopedic" as long as you can provide an outside source. Throwing in your own observations/ideas would be original research and outside the project guidelines Maxweinberg 16:20, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

As your reference to "One flew over the Cuckoo's nest" might suggest, there will be many similarities, entirely coincidental, when trying to portray this social order. --THobern 00:00, 13 April 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by THobern (talk • contribs)

Actually, that's probably not coincidental at all. The term "combine" (as implied in some of Dr. Breen's comments and mentioned by one of the developers in an interview) is a name the oppressed humans have applied to the "Universal Union", probably in part because of the logo that resembles the letters CMB. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.192.72.25 (talk) 21:16, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Spoiler Tag

An anonymous IP requested (via comment in the article) that a spoiler tag be added to the plot section. From my interpretations of WP:SPOILER, I don't think this is appropriate considering the length of time the game has been available and that the section is already called "Plot". Any other opinions on this? Useight 05:56, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree with whoever this anonymous IP was. Someone should add a spoiler tag. People are still buying and playing Half-Life 2 for the first time, including myself, and as with a movie or a book, I think people should be warned of plot divulgence. And anyway, what could adding a spoiler tag hurt? Spirit Stiff (talk) 03:55, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Half-Life games

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Source Code Leak section

This section is largely unsourced, and there are some basic punctuation issues. Anyone want to provide sources, or should the last nine paragraphs be deleted? Una Laguna^Talk 15:42, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Source 6 in the intro links to a dead (404'd) page. Consider removal.

HL Comic

The Half Life 2 comic should be referenced. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.2.62.165 (talk) 19:46, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

That is not an official comic, just a fan thing. − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 06:34, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Source 6 in the intro links to a dead (404'd) page. Consider removal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.38.221.246 (talk) 13:26, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

No timejumps

It says there are no discontinuities or jumps in time from the protagonists POV, but I'd say there is. When Alyx and Gordon teleport together, they remain in the teleporter for a week before materializing again (according to Dr. Kleiner). Would that qualify as a time jump? 85.19.140.9 21:00, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

• What it means is that Gordon has (since turning up to work at Black Mesa that morning) never been out of the player's control, or done anything away from the games. Gordon's experience during the time jump is the same as the player's. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lordofthe9 (talk • contribs) 00:00, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Information Error

I noticed that in the end of the third paragraph it says "Overall, the Half-Life franchise, including Counter-Strike and Day of Defeat, has sold over 20 million units. " and realized that Day of Defeat though run on the Half-Life game engine it is not technicaly part of the Half-Life franchize.Unless someone has objection I plan to change it. --Dalaga Helios 19:14, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Id like to apoligize and say I was mistaken, apparently I had not read the information carfully enough.--Dalaga Helios 21:32, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Other gravity guns

In the article it is written that there were originally more prototypes for the Gravity Gun. Except for perhaps the blue\charged gravity gun and the Portal Gun, what were the other designs?Nefzen 19:37, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

There was a physics gun similar to the one used in garry's mod, it was featured in the E3 demo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.209.214.6 (talk) 20:01, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

"Tracks 44 to 51 are tracks from the game that did not appear on the soundtrack CD."

So, uh... why are they appearing in the tracklist for the soundtrack CD? You have torn a hole in the fabric of reality —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.90.100.223 (talk) 07:08, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Black Mesa East

Should Black Mesa East be mentioned in the "Setting" Section? Because the descriptor East would imply somewhere east of New Mexico, and East, as i have seen it oftenly used, is used to describe a location in Europe/Asia-Minor/Africa. 71.215.217.95 (talk) 22:49, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Korin Mod for Half-Life 2

Surprised there's nothing on the Korin Mod. Chris (クリス) (talk) 00:11, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Small Change

The rating by PC Gamer in the USA was mistakenly listed as 96 when in fact it is 98%. Slight Change.

See http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/halflife2  

--Ironchef8000 (talk) 03:23, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Weapons descriptions

I see that people are clashing a bit over the exact nature of the weapons in the game. Please bear in mind that Wikipedia is aimed at the general public, so I believe it would be a good idea to keep this sort of thing to specialised sites and write "a pistol", "a sub-machine gun" etc... After all it's not as if we are looking at an actual weapon as we would in a film: it's a few constructed images and sampled sounds... Mezigue (talk) 15:04, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Did someone deface the article?? 99.228.17.253 (talk) 23:20, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Relationship with Alyx Vance

The part "Relationship With Alyx Vance" seems out of place, and should probably be moved to the article on Gordon Freeman. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.122.210.173 (talk) 07:11, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Done. --Silver Edge (talk) 08:37, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

John Freeman

This popularity is largely due to the enigmatic and wonderful character John Freeman, the brother of Gordon Freeman, who has drawn much critical praise in regards to his amazingly heroic antics within the game. -- WTF? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.140.156.107 (talk) 07:51, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

That text in the article has been reverted. --Silver Edge (talk) 08:39, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

secrets?

There is a secrets section, particularly regarding a tower of terror mod. this is incorrect because it is in fact a homebrew map created for Garrys mod, itself a mod. I will attempt to remove it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.212.252.73 (talk) 21:33, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Video Game

Why it's still called computer game? It's a multi-platform since the Xbox port, so it should be called "video game". --Barnz (talk) 10:07, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Never mind, now I understand why it's called a computer game. --Barnz (talk) 22:53, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Most played online game?

“As of February 28, 2007, Half-Life 2 is the second most played online computer game (excluding MMORPGs), behind Half-Life, according to GameSpy.[17]” This is completely misleading. GameSpy is listing all games based on the Half-Life 2 engine under "Half-Life 2", probably because they all use the same executable name "hl2.exe". In actual fact, the #1 is Counter-Strike, based on the original Half-Life engine, and #2 is Counter-Strike: Source, based on the Source/Half-Life 2 engine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.192.72.25 (talk) 21:18, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Do you honestly think the Hl1 multiplayer is popular right now? No, go look at how many servers and players are on it. Its saying all games derived from HL1, like CS, TFC, HL1 DM beat all HL2 derived games- CSS, HL2 DM, however, that statement is old. With TF2 and L4D out, the tables may have turned... its categorizing hl1 engine games as HL1, and HL2 engine games as HL2. Hl1 may be ahead though, only because of Counter-Strike. Again, TF2 and L4D may have changed that. - Mike

Romania

Half-Life 2: Raising the Bar says that Romania was also used as a source of inspiration for the setting. shouldn't this be included as well? diego_pmc (talk) 20:46, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Crossbow

I'm pretty sure the iron bars that the crossbow fires are actually electrified, not heated. This would explain both the car battery strapped to the crossbow's underside and the sparks when putting in a new bolt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.193.118.167 (talk) 02:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

The battery could power some kinda heating mechanism, the bold does glow red, suggesting heat. The sparks could just represent this mechanism being activated. Also, if you think about it logically there's no way to keep a simple bolt "electrified" in transit. Rehevkor ✉ 02:30, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

This counts as speculation/original research, but the heating mechanism should be the crossbow bolt itself. It's functioning as an electrical resistor. When more current is applied, there is more resistance, generating heat. The sparks are from you completing the (extremely dangerous) circuit. Still counts as heated, though. - Zero1328 _Talk? 13:55, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

1984 in Setting

I Wrote a nice bit about resemblances between 1984 and the setting of half-life 2, and someone deleted it. If you really think this doesn't belong here, you should also delete the link to half-life 2 in the article about 1984. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.89.108.51 (talk) 17:02, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi; this is original research unless you have a reference to back it up. Gary King (talk) 17:11, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Do you need screenshots of all the thing I mention? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.206.139.28 (talk) 17:51, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

No; even a screenshot would be considered original research are you are just drawing a conclusion that others may not see. If you can find a reliable source that describes it as such, though, then please use that to add the information back by citing it. Gary King (talk) 17:59, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

"Plot"

As someone who hasn't played Half-Life 2, the plot synopsis in this article was unfortunately very unhelpful. (explanation: I played Portal, and was interested in how that plotline might fit into the Half-life universe, so went to wikipedia's articles on HL 1 and 2). Frequent references to concepts that would require a knowledge of the game to understand, and phrases such as "...debrief Freeman on events since the incident at Black Mesa," make it clear that I would have to have played the game already in order to understand this synopsis. While I understand most of the information in this article is helpful to those who have already played the game, I think it would make sense for the plot summary to be written for those fully unfamiliar with Half-life. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.249.50.110 (talk) 23:49, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Did you read the "Setting" section of the synopsis? That will provide the answer to your example, and probably a few others as well. Green451 (talk) 19:51, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

No, he was right. The original Setting and Plot sections were largely badly-written and incomprehensible. For one, they completely failed to mention the Combine invasion of Earth - even though it's the central part of the plot which is instrumental to understand what's going on!! It's like describing the plot of Lord of the Rings without mentioning the Ring at all. Recently I tried to remedy this by adding appropriate info to the article lead and the Setting section. Hope it makes sense now. 89.77.170.202 (talk) 15:25, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

"Gameplay Nausea"

A trait that is unique due to the realness of the HL2 engine is that many people have reported nausea/vertigo when initially playing this game. The movements, screen resolution and physics all have been incited as a cause to many people getting 'sea sick' while playing this game.

http://www.rage3d.com/Board/archive/index.php?t-33805738.html

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Citadel Inspiration - Possible Source?

Has anyone noticed that Frank Lloyd Wright's proposed supertall skyscraper the Illinois bears quite a bit of resemblance to the Combine Citadel? Many features of the Illinois are very similar to that of the Citadel, and I was wondering if maybe this was a possible source of inspiration for the design of the Citadel. If any one thinks I'm wrong, go ahead and say so, but It's pretty hard to say, since Valve never said anything about the Illinois being their source of inspiration. I just thought it might be relevant to this article, as Half-Life 2 is where the Citadel is first introduced, so readers might find it interesting. Also, here's[1] a higher resolution picture of it. Cloudy fox 001 (talk) 23:56, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

EDIT

Ah, nevermind. It's original research. Sorryz. Cloudy fox 001 (talk) 22:27, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Popularity Rank

According to GameSpy, Half-Life 2 is the fifth most played online computer game (excluding MMOGs).[13]

I think the current popularity rank in the introduction should be removed from the article. Unless this statistic can be put into context, I dont think it has much use here and it is also difficult to keep track of. Your thoughts? --Teglin (talk) 15:28, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

HL2 supporting character cleanup

The fact that every supporting character has their own article is going a bit too far. I think they should all be trimmed down and merged into a Characters of Half-Life 2 article, with only the major characters having their own.--_{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 18:49, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Screenshot

The article's screen shot seems to be of a really low quality. If anyone wants me to, I can take a new one (when I get home). Reason being, is that the current one sucks...so yea.Halofanatic333 (talk) 15:19, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Fair use images have to be as low quality as can be gotten away with. The current images are suitable in that respect, so I suggest leaving them. Rehevkor ✉ 16:54, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I did not know that. Wish they were bigger however. Halofanatic333 (talk) 23:27, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

May 2010 engine update

We need something about the 2010 engine and graphical update on here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deathtreath93 (talk • contribs) 11:12, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Second Game Genre?

I think that Half-life 2 also has a small splinter in the Horror Game Genre, due to the many horrific situations/enemies in game. The level "We dont go to Ravenholm" itself is a small piece of the many proofs available to support this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.68.27.161 (talk) 01:12, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

The soundtrack

The soundtrack of the game and Kelly Bailey need a new page. After a couple of months or so I'm going to create it, so if anyone has anything against it, please let me know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.99.169.4 (talk) 06:00, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Major Overhaul, Hopefully back to Featured Status

This page has slowly degenerated from when it was featured on the front page. I'd like to bring it back in line. Here's what I plan to do, or have already done:

• Create a new section for discussing the ports and various major updates to the game since it's initial release, separate from pre-release development
• Filter most of the redundant storyline/plot/setting stuff into Half-Life (series), and leave only the Half Life 2 core story here
• Similarly, filter mods, expansions, etc. that aren't directly based off of Half-Life 2 into either Half-Life (series) or Source (game engine)
• Significantly shorten or trim all other sections, excluding Critical Response

Let me know what you think. --Pyroguy (talk) 13:33, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Gravity Gun?

For consistency, how should "Gravity Gun" be capitalized? It varies throughout the article. Yaksar (let's chat) 21:17, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

I've corrected all of the spellings to "gravity gun." If anyone has any objections I'll be happy to change it. Yaksar (let's chat) 00:45, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

I think a strong case can be made that the names of all the carried weapons are proper nouns, and should be capitalized. Is there a reason you opted for lower case? --Pyroguy (talk) 16:37, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

I would go for capitalizing, it is often referred to as The Gravity Gun, owing to it some importance and significance. If it were a common noun, it could then go lower case but for the purposes of this article it should be upper case. Sincerely Subzerosmokerain (talk) 16:40, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Actually, when I put a bit more thought into it, I realized that "gravity gun" wasn't the gun's proper name, it was something much more technical sounding (it's not in the article yet, but if someone could find it that could be cool.) Gravity gun is just the type of gun it is. For example, you wouldn't capitalize shotgun, but you would capitalize a type of shotgun. Yaksar (let's chat) 17:54, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Dr Mossman calls it "Zero-Point Energy Field Manipulator" but everyone else including the Vances call it "Gravity Gun". I wouldn't say one is the proper name and the other not but in any case this is in-universe discussion and it's more a style question. I would capitalise it because it's unique, but I don't feel very strongly about it. Mezigue (talk) 21:18, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

gembe

http://www.google.com/search?q=Descumbudo+Gembe

query returns only this wikipedia article. in actuality, apparently the guy's called axel or something. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.17.235.79 (talk) 19:18, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

• Y Fixed. Cheers for pointing it out. Rehevkor ✉ 22:32, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Valve Task Force Re-vitalization

Attention, all contributors to the Valve Task Force and the articles it constitutes!
I am here to announce that I will be re-vitalizing the Valve Task Force, aimed at universally improving articles constituting Valve Corporation, their employees, associates and products. This specific task force has been dormant for quite some time and with two very notable releases coming out this year, I feel like this is the appropriate time to re-stimulate the general aim of this group. For those who are not already members of the Valve Task Force, feel free to add your name to our members list and contribute to whatever articles you feel your contributions may prove beneficial for. Valve, its products and notable employees have proven to be essential to the progression of the video game industry, so I'd like to make a call of arms for this cause. DarthBotto _talk•cont 22:01, 08 February 2011 (UTC)

Correction under "Synopsis"

It says "-using an energy field to subdue the ability for humans to procreate.". This is incorrect, the combine put chemicals in their food to stop women from being able to get pregnant, there isn't an actual "Field" 74.116.26.10 (talk) 14:44, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

The field is confirmed, it's what Dr. Kleiner disables near the end of Ep1. One of the NPCs suggest there's something in the food but that's less an affirmation than the clear use of the field to suppress reproduction urges. --MASEM (t) 14:49, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, the particles in the food and drink are actually "to make you forget" stuff, like how you get to City 17.

--Player017 (talk) 22:43, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Notability of Kelley Bailey and the Soundtrack

Is there a third party significance to Kelly Bailey and the soundtrack? If not, I'd like to remove his mention from the article. --Pyroguy (talk) 22:38, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Half-Life 2/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 21:07, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

   Grammar seems to be a problem with the article; awkward writing too, as I've seen in the second sentence which simply lists all the "natures" of Half-Life 2, and it comes off poorly. I also see references with periods after them, references in the lead, and numerous single sentence paragraphs. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 22:04, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

   The Gameplay section is completely uncited, as well as the Soundtrack section. Additionally, it uses numerous references that are of questionable usefulness as well as a dead link. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 22:04, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

   While everything is represented, it is quite evident that the Reception is sorely lacking. Half-Life 2 is one of the most well-known video games out there; it should have a massive reception section. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 22:04, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   While the third image is good for use (since the second image does not seem to depict the lighting nearly as well), the second image has no legitimate fair use rationale. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 22:04, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

1. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   Because the nominator did not seem to make sure that the article was ready for the Good Article Nomination process, and has in fact never edited the article before, I am quick failing this nomination. If another editor wishes to bring it back, please make sure that all of the problems are fixed and the Reception expanded. WP:VG/RS can help you find good sources, for which you may search on Google; for example, you could search [site:arstechnica.com "Half-Life 2"] (without the brackets). Google News and Google Books are good places, too. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 22:04, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

New Article Audio File

The Half-Life 2 article's audio file is completely and utterly outdated. Needs refreshing.

Player017 (talk) 23:46, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

So make one? Яehevkor ✉ 17:01, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

I can't. Is there anyone at Wikipedia who did it in 2006? --Player017 (talk) 22:44, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Well User:Rahzel recorded the current one, he is no longer active. You could always request input at Wikipedia:WikiProject Spoken Wikipedia. Яehevkor ✉ 22:54, 12 September 2011 (UTC)