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GA Mentorship
Dear Nikkimaria, I was perusing the GA mentor list and the dart landed on your username. I was wondering if you could help me with my first attempt at getting an article to GA standard. The article in question is one I created a while ago, the Lyre-guitar. It's quite short but does that matter? I would appreciate at least a cursory glance and brief commentary to get me started. No hurry and of course I understand if you are too busy. Jschnur (talk) 03:56, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
- Hey Jschnur! It's not the length of the article that matters as much as its coverage: if you've covered the main aspects of the topic (criterion 3), it's long enough. In this case, though, I'm not sure you've done that yet. You tell us about the history of the instrument, but not how it was constructed (materials, design) or how it produced sound (tuning, range, acoustics), what kind of repertoire was written for it, etc. It might be helpful to look at instrument articles that are already GAs as possible models - pipe organ and clarinet are examples, although both will naturally be longer than a more obscure instrument like the lyre-guitar. Look for more sources about the instrument to get an idea of what information is out there; based on the bibliography, there's a whole book and a few articles out there. (If you don't have access to these, let me know and I'll see if I can find them). For the existing text, you'll need more inline citations - reviewers usually expect to see at least one per paragraph, and more as needed. Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 04:33, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the prompt reply. I will take your advice and start with exploring other GA musical instrument articles. I think that I will need help with some of the sources but I will follow that up with you in due course. Some are in French so you may be just what the doctor ordered. Best, Jschnur (talk) 05:07, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
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Hi Nikki, I saw this - and my first thought was: "It's not fair - she has to sleep sometime - and the bot doesn't". :-D — Ched : ? 22:14, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for fighting my battles for me! --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:51, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
- No prob - edit-warring with bots is fun. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:43, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
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I have nominated Nightswimming (Awake) at FAC now, and have listed you as one of the co-nominators, if that's okay. Cheers, TBrandley 00:08, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
New Worlds again
I'm just getting back to New Worlds again, and I think it's close to being ready for FAC. I will do some more passes and then if you're willing, we can conom.
I have a question about an odd citation situation. The last sentence of the New Wave section quotes Brian Stableford from the online SF Encyclopedia. The article the quote is taken from is attributed to Stableford and two other authors, but the particular quote appears almost unchanged in the 1978 print edition of the encyclopedia. In 1978 it's "It cannot be said that Moorcock's programme met with wide-ranging approval, especially among those readers attuned to the more modest and traditional aspects of Carnell's policy, and it certainly lacked Carnell's sense of balance. Its contribution to sf in the 1960s was, however, considerable -- the paths beaten by the New Worlds writers are now much more generally in use"; in the online version it reads "It cannot be said that Moorcock's programme met with wide-ranging approval, especially among those readers attuned to the more modest and traditional aspects of Carnell's policy, and it certainly lacked Carnell's sense of balance, but its contribution to sf in the 1960s was considerable – the paths beaten by the New Worlds writers are now much more generally in use." The earlier version was written solely by Stableford, so I feel the quote should be attributed to him in the article, but I don't want to cite the 1978 version of the article since it's important to let the reader know the judgement still stands now, thirty-four years later. How do you think this should be handled? It did occur to me that perhaps the decision to leave that text in should not be regarded as solely Stableford's -- with two other authors of that article, they must concur in that judgement, so perhaps they should be cited too. What do you think? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:14, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
- Hmm. You could include inline attribution to Stableford and footnote the newer source, or footnote both versions, or include an explanatory note about the situation. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:14, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
- I added an explanatory note; I think that's the most straightforward solution. Do you see anything else needed before we nominate? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:47, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
- I think we're missing bibliographic info for Merril and Latham, can you add it? Doing some editing now. Also, is the source discussed above Clute & Nicholls, or just Nicholls? If the latter, missing that too. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:30, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
- I added Merril. I don't have Latham -- I think that was a source you added. The 1979 SF Enc. is Nicholls only, so I think it's correct as is.
- I just realized I forgot to add a list of the anthologies drawn from New Worlds to the bibliographic data section. I'll get that done in the next couple of days. Anything else you see that needs fixing? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:06, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
- We don't have full bibliographic info for the 1979 edition, just the 1993. I've fixed Latham, so once you've added the list, I think we're good to go. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:02, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
- I added the 1979 edition of Nicholls. My copy is a 1981 reprint, which is the date I used in the reference, but I left the 1979 date in the explanatory note, which I think is OK since the text was not revised for the reprint. I think we're ready. Shall I do the honours? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 21:46, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
- By all means. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:07, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
- Done. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 03:56, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
- By all means. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:07, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
- I added the 1979 edition of Nicholls. My copy is a 1981 reprint, which is the date I used in the reference, but I left the 1979 date in the explanatory note, which I think is OK since the text was not revised for the reprint. I think we're ready. Shall I do the honours? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 21:46, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
- We don't have full bibliographic info for the 1979 edition, just the 1993. I've fixed Latham, so once you've added the list, I think we're good to go. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:02, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
- I think we're missing bibliographic info for Merril and Latham, can you add it? Doing some editing now. Also, is the source discussed above Clute & Nicholls, or just Nicholls? If the latter, missing that too. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:30, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
- I added an explanatory note; I think that's the most straightforward solution. Do you see anything else needed before we nominate? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:47, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
Beilin-Abu Mazen Agreement Did You Know? Nomination
Hey Nicki,
I fixed whichever close paraphrasing I could find in this article, but I still need your approval for this article to get that DYK? nomination. Thank you. Futurist110 (talk) 01:18, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
- I fixed what you said (FN10 and FN11) right now. Futurist110 (talk) 07:22, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
I have made edits to this article for tone, but would like your opinion before I remove the tag. If you think the article tone has been improved enough to remove the tag, then please do so. If not, just let me know here and I'll work on it a bit more.
Thanks! TeresaTeresa J. Mayfield (talk) 00:49, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
- Hey Teresa. Good work so far, but I think this article needs a little more finessing before removing the tag: things like "feelings that reflect a deep humanity" and "idealism deeply rooted in his solid religious convictions" don't quite meet the ideal of neutral and encyclopedic phrasing. Guidelines like WP:W2W might be helpful in figuring out where the line is. In some cases you can also quote things like that as opinions from critics or authors. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:01, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
Lyre-guitar sources
Hi again Nikkimaria. Regarding you kind offer to help with sources for this article I was wondering if you can access the third reference by Matanya Ophee, "The Story of the Lyre-Guitar", in Soundboard XIV/4, 1987-88 Winter? This may kill two birds with one stone. Apparently the first reference Plagiat dénoncé aux musiciens et aux amateurs des lyres nouvelles, inventées par Mareschal, Luthier à Paris. is an extremely rare pamphlet. My research googling indicates that the only known copy of it is in the library of the Brussels Instrument Museum. However, Matanya Ophee’s article mentioned above contains a full facsimile of it. BTW What does the pamphlet's title translate to? Again, no hurry. Jschnur (talk) 05:12, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
- Roughly, "Plagiarism revealed to musicians and amateurs of the new lyres, invented by Mareschal, a luthier from Paris", which likely is suggesting that the design of the instrument itself was copied. I've put in a request for the article at the library, so will hopefully have it in a few days. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:21, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
- Ooooh. The plot thickens. Mareschal sounds a tad angry. I'm so looking forward to this. Thanks Nikkimaria. Jschnur (talk) 02:45, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
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DYK
Can you tell me what's happening with this? I replied to you 10 days ago and have heard nothing since. The nom has been sitting in limbo for a month now and is the third oldest on there. Thanks, Valenciano (talk) 14:40, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
- I don't speak Spanish so can't check the other references, unfortunately. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:49, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
- Okay but where does that leave the status of the DYK? Valenciano (talk) 18:37, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
- Try asking for Spanish-speaking reviewers at WT:DYK. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:57, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
- Okay but where does that leave the status of the DYK? Valenciano (talk) 18:37, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
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Some rude rag from Illinois deleted it from Middle Ages. She (the rude rag) is right about the percentages being wrong, they were variable according to time and place. Maybe you could erase the "About 80% of the population" part, and upload a new version. Other than that there is no reason at all to delete it. Some people just get their rocks off on being troublemakers. 7mike5000 (talk) 22:11, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
- Perhaps you were not aware that I have this page watchlisted also? I did not intend to be "rude" but it was indeed an unsourced addition with percentages wrong. However, that's not a good call to call some other editor a "rude rag". I greatly appreciate helpful additions to articles... but oversimplification is a big problem with the whole subject area of the middle ages. It doesn't help when diagrams give the wrong impression. The tripartite division of society is actually not quite accurate - there were always merchants and others who did not work. Also, certain areas didn't quite divide that neatly - there was a significant section of German society that wasn't "free" but was of high status because it served the king. Nor did i weigh in on the deletion discussion. Just because a file is up for deletion is not a cause to stuff it into articles to stave off its deletion either. I have no care whether or not it gets deleted or not, but I would greatly appreciate an apology for the disparaging remarks about myself that were made here. Ealdgyth - Talk 23:37, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
- You left a rude, obnoxious and arrogant comment in the edit summary, "utterly useless and entirely too simplistic division ... not to mention not accurate percentages" The intent is plain and not appreciated hence the "rude rag" comment. On my part I was wrong for cramming it in there. 7mike5000 (talk) 23:50, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
- No, the intent was to make plain why I was removing the picture. The fact that you thought it was rude is unfortunate, but that was not my intention. What would have worked best was to have perhaps approached me on my talk page and said that you found my comment rude and I would have apologized and told you such was not my intent. Words on the internet are impersonal and it costs nothing to ask someone if they really intended to be rude. You now have my apology if you thought I was rude, it was not my intent. Ealdgyth - Talk 23:54, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
- You left a rude, obnoxious and arrogant comment in the edit summary, "utterly useless and entirely too simplistic division ... not to mention not accurate percentages" The intent is plain and not appreciated hence the "rude rag" comment. On my part I was wrong for cramming it in there. 7mike5000 (talk) 23:50, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
Ooooh boy. I translated the image from a French version upon request and have absolutely no idea whether the percentages are right or not; if Ealdgyth says they're not, I'd defer to her judgement on that, because she knows what she's talking about in that area. 7mike, I get where you're coming from over at FFD, but the "rude rag" comment (and some that followed) was out of line, and I'd ask that you please not continue that line of commentary. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:01, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
New DYK hook to replace the one removed from queue 2?
Nikkimaria, I was wondering whether you could check to see whether the Abdallah al-Battal article, currently in Prep 3, was safe for you to move into Queue 2 to replace the hook you just removed from the second-to-bottom position. It's one that I would probably suggest moving because it's a bio, and prep 3 can't be promoted soon, while prep 2 could, and at just the wrong moment. However, since I know you'd check it for close paraphrasing first, it would be best if you did it so we're definitely safe. We want eight hooks in every set; we don't want to add to our current backlog. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:12, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
- Looks like Orlady's already promoted a different article. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:36, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Yup, I was just about to say that. ;-) Hope it doesn't have any paraphrasing issues... Thanks anyway! BlueMoonset (talk) 02:39, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
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I just fully protected Melville Island (Nova Scotia) for three days because of the back and forth reverting about the infobox. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:49, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
- Note that I've reprotected it since revert warring resumed once protection expired. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:26, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
Large removals, small talk
Don't you think you should explain just a bit more? As someone expressed at least once recently, you seem to do removals perhaps too readily. Shenme (talk) 23:54, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- The section in question was tagged as being problematic, which is why that edit was made. If you believe you can address the issue satisfactorily in another way, feel free to try. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:05, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
Page reviewed
"18:01, 9 September 2012 Nikkimaria (talk | contribs) marked User:Darwinbish/Stockfish as reviewed"
What what? New pages must be reviewed? How "marked" (does it show on page?) Already used scary new template here, hehe. Nikki and others feel free use them all, teach everybody a lesson! darwinbish BITE 18:14, 9 September 2012 (UTC).
- As part of strange new page curation tool-thingy, a sidebar shows up on many new pages. Reviewed page shows as marked on the list, but I think not on the page itself. Tool also makes it easier to use templates to
complaingive feedback to editors - maybe Darwinbish should request that scary new template be added to default list! Nikkimaria (talk) 18:21, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
Is this okay?
Nikkimaria, sorry to bother you, but I was taking a look at Royal Gibraltar Yacht Club, which has just been approved as a DYK nominee, though it isn't yet promoted. My question: is the History section structurally too close to the source (including the paraphrasing, which might or might not be close), which is an article from the Friends of Gilbraltar newsletter (pages 10 and 11, starting with the bottom of the first column on page 10, and continuing through the first two paragraphs on page 11). Or is this acceptable usage? Thanks for your thoughts on this. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:36, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
- I think several of the sources in the article are copied a bit too closely, with the one you point out being perhaps the most egregious. Compare for example "Membership in the Royal Gibraltar Yacht Club continues to be a status symbol" to "To be a member of the RGYC...continues to be perceived as a status symbol" in FN2. But to answer your question: yes, structurally I would say FN1 is inadequately paraphrased. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:57, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you. I didn't want to cancel out the approval if I was offbase. I have now done so, and taken the liberty of referring to this exchange in my writeup at Template:Did you know nominations/Royal Gibraltar Yacht Club. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:43, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
Can I ask you to please take another look at this now that it's been updated? (I'm asking you to take over the review at this stage, and respond to it with the appropriate icon and commentary.) You did say "several of the sources are copied a bit too closely" in your original reply to me, and I'm not sure, looking at the diff showing the changes (or by the comment in the nomination template), this has been addressed sufficiently. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:49, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
WP:OWN
Please discuss your recent changes to WP:OWN on its talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 06:48, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
- Changes made over a month ago are not exactly recent. Nikkimaria (talk) 12:19, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
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hanged, drawn and quartered
I've reversed your edit because your edit illustrates the misperception my edit is attempting to avoid. The "drawn" in the article refers to disembowelling, not dragging. By using the same term for two completely different acts in the article (1. to disembowel and 2. to drag) creates confusion. I have changed drawn (behind a horse) to dragged, so that people don't mistake that action with the "drawn", i.e. disembowelling in the article's title. 121.73.7.84 (talk) 13:43, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
- Your suggestion that anyone could be confused by "Convicts were fastened to a hurdle, or wooden panel, and drawn by horse to the place of execution, where they were hanged (almost to the point of death), emasculated, disembowelled, beheaded and quartered (chopped into four pieces)" is ridiculous. Nobody is going to read that and presume it means "and disembowelled by horse". And the use of "drawn" in the name of the sentence is ambiguous, as you would know if you'd read the article. Parrot of Doom 15:09, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
Breakfast of champions
Thank you for saving other Wikipedia editors from those brownies. I will heroic ly eat them for breakfast, all of them. (olive (talk) 14:17, 10 September 2012 (UTC))
Thanks for the help with the GEL
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Nikkimaria, I originally found some glaring close paraphrasing from a single source (the BBC article), and after quite some time and various revisions, the article has gotten to the point where that source is no longer a problem. The issue: I don't trust the original review to have done any other checking, it needs to be done, and I'm frankly not up to it. Can I ask you to do your standard paraphrase check, and either approve the article if it seems okay, or list there any new problems you find? Thanks for anything you can do. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:11, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:04, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
Diva question
You said to me:
As to the diva issue, consider the comments that immediately preceded my remark: "I see that I'm not welcomed here...I don't feel free to make anymore comments on this page. I'm not one of those allowed to have an opinion here...I'm not allowed to have an opinion". You might not have intended it that way, but this reads as a search for validation, and the exact kind of "storming off in a huff" that DIVA warns against. Nikkimaria (talk) 22:32, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
So your saying that if I don't post on the Wikipedia talk:Ownership of articles page, then I'm a diva? That saying I don't feel welcome on a page where I've been personally attacked is equivalent to the "common response by an editor confronted with ownership behavior is to threaten to leave the project." Really?
I seems then that the only way I can avoid being a diva, in your opinion, is to continue to post on that page.
MathewTownsend (talk) 00:42, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- Not really, no. There is a difference between simply silently choosing not to respond, and going on a rant about why you feel unable to respond and how everyone hates you and how your opinion isn't valued. If you had done the former, you would have earned some respect for knowing when you need to step away from a conversation that isn't productive. You did the latter, which is what prompted my comment.
- I could have been much blunter in how I phrased my comments to you in that discussion. To some extent, that was the approach Malleus took, and I understand why he did so. What would be really, really helpful in making future discussions of this nature more productive would be if you could understand why this went down the way it did. You don't have to agree with the positions that others take, but you do need to try to see where they're coming from and respect that, like you, they are humans and have feelings and opinions. If you can do that, you are more likely to get respect in return. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:11, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- What would be really helpful would be if you and Malleus Fatuorum treated other editors with some respect. So you will defend Malleus Fatuorum whatever - even as he calls people "assholes" as he has just done?[1] Wow! That speaks volumes. You've been quite blunt enough. Ownership in action! All over a little star that readers aren't even aware of. I'm embarrassed for you both. MathewTownsend (talk) 01:36, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- Perhaps what Nikkimaria is trying to say, but is being too subtle, is that your passive-aggressive schtick is pretty transparent. If you want it to succeed, you're going to need to work on your technique to make it more effective. No one with a brain is going to look at that thread and think "poor innocent Matthew is being picked on". They're going to look at that thread and think you started that thread because you thought it was a way to attack editors you didn't like, hoping to rely on plausible deniability if someone accused you of it. But your deniability isn't plausible, you weren't subtle enough, so your hurt feelings make it look like you can dish it out but can't take it. --Floquenbeam (talk) 01:49, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- (ec) Perhaps I might interject here? I think one thing that got Nikki and Malleus' backs up was the fact that your initial post didn't say "some" FA editors had those behaviors you described. I know I read it as an indictment of ALL FA editors - and was a bit offended. I see later where you state that at least one FA editor doesn't fit your description, but you didn't make it clear in the beginning that you only saw that description as applying to just some editors. Also, I was a bit offended by "Since FAs usually have low number of page views..." since some of the FAs I've worked on have quite large page views - William the Conqueror or Thoroughbred come to mind. I generally try to be forgiving of folks tweaking my prose, but I am not going to allow folks to distort the sources of articles I've worked on. However, not all folks are as easy going about prose tweaks, and even I can get tired of the "I-just-have-to-prove-I-can-change-this" type of editor we often see on FAs - that change words seemingly just because they can... Too many editors on Wikipedia seem to think that their personal preferences on wording choices are the only right choices. Nothing is more discouraging to an editor of an article than to have some editor swoop in, seize on some tiny little bit of a huge article, and act like a wording choice they don't agree with makes the entire article total crap. After months of this sort of thing, it gets really hard to deal with being told in effect that YOUR hard work isn't as valued as some newb editor. I am sure you didn't mean to imply that in your intitial post, but there was an undertone of "newbs matter more than folks who have proven their commitment to providing content over the years" to your post ... and that's very discouraging. Why should someone who hasn't proven their abilities to provide content be valued more than someone who HAS proven that ability? Ealdgyth - Talk 01:56, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- Ealdgyth - I think you make good points and frankly I felt the same as you did when I read the original post. Given that FA stewardship is being challenged at WP:OWN, I think what you've written above, or some form of it, should be added to the discussion there. Truthkeeper (talk) 02:05, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- What would be really helpful would be if you and Malleus Fatuorum treated other editors with some respect. So you will defend Malleus Fatuorum whatever - even as he calls people "assholes" as he has just done?[1] Wow! That speaks volumes. You've been quite blunt enough. Ownership in action! All over a little star that readers aren't even aware of. I'm embarrassed for you both. MathewTownsend (talk) 01:36, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- Succeed at what? Nikkimaria is hardly "subtle". You're saying she should really be nastier? All I want to do is edit collaboratively which is what I thought wp was about. Saying "your passive-aggressive schtick is pretty transparent." etc. "poor innocent Matthew is being picked on". "They're going to look at that thread and think you started that thread because you thought it was a way to attack editors you didn't like, hoping to rely on plausible deniability if someone accused you of it. But your deniability isn't plausible, you weren't subtle enough, so your hurt feelings make it look like you can dish it out but can't take it." This is disgusting. I get the message. wp is not a collaborative endevour. ok, you, Malleus Fatuorum, and Nikkimaria all prefer to comment on the editor rather than follow the rule of commenting on the content not the editor.
All the stuff that Worm taught me in his mentoring class are meaningless. Ought to tell him that he's misleading new editors and sending them down the garden path. I get it. Why should I bother: "Why should someone who hasn't proven their abilities to provide content be valued more than someone who HAS proven that ability?" By writing non collaborative articles? What's the point when the atmosphere is so nasty? Everything is about how many "stars" someone has collected, something readers are unaware of. ok, I acknowledge that you are all superior to me, a newcomer. MathewTownsend (talk) 02:18, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- Succeed at what? Nikkimaria is hardly "subtle". You're saying she should really be nastier? All I want to do is edit collaboratively which is what I thought wp was about. Saying "your passive-aggressive schtick is pretty transparent." etc. "poor innocent Matthew is being picked on". "They're going to look at that thread and think you started that thread because you thought it was a way to attack editors you didn't like, hoping to rely on plausible deniability if someone accused you of it. But your deniability isn't plausible, you weren't subtle enough, so your hurt feelings make it look like you can dish it out but can't take it." This is disgusting. I get the message. wp is not a collaborative endevour. ok, you, Malleus Fatuorum, and Nikkimaria all prefer to comment on the editor rather than follow the rule of commenting on the content not the editor.
To Truthkeeper88. Why should you take a general comment personally? I'm not allowed to take personal attacks personally. I don't get it. Everything I say is about you? Who are you? MathewTownsend (talk) 02:30, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- Mathew we all get upset and everyone reacts differently. I don't believe I've ever interacted with you, and apologize if you took my comment wrong. It's time for me to log out now because I have a long day at work ahead of me. Who am I? A fellow Wikipedian. Truthkeeper (talk) 02:58, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- Who the Hell do you think you are? Malleus Fatuorum 02:32, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- Are you speaking to me? I thought I was a new and enthusiastic editor who was trying to do his best by the encyclopeida. But now I see that's not what it's about. It's about calling people "assholes" and other personal attacks which are ok because you're allowed to violate the civility policies. MathewTownsend (talk) 02:47, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- I think you ought to be looking in the mirror Mathew. And in the future don't start what you can't finish. Malleus Fatuorum 02:57, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- I think you should be looking in the mirror too, Malleus Fatuorum. And in the future, stop personally attacking editors such as calling them "asshole". Recommend being minimally civil, if you aren't able to be truly civil. MathewTownsend (talk) 03:09, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- You just don't know when to stop. Malleus Fatuorum 03:30, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- I know you are proud of Tickle Cock Bridge and Gropecunt Lane and your more than 500 GAs. I apologize for accidentally removing Tickle Cock Bridge. MathewTownsend (talk) 12:30, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- You just don't know when to stop. Malleus Fatuorum 03:30, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- I think you should be looking in the mirror too, Malleus Fatuorum. And in the future, stop personally attacking editors such as calling them "asshole". Recommend being minimally civil, if you aren't able to be truly civil. MathewTownsend (talk) 03:09, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- I think you ought to be looking in the mirror Mathew. And in the future don't start what you can't finish. Malleus Fatuorum 02:57, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- Are you speaking to me? I thought I was a new and enthusiastic editor who was trying to do his best by the encyclopeida. But now I see that's not what it's about. It's about calling people "assholes" and other personal attacks which are ok because you're allowed to violate the civility policies. MathewTownsend (talk) 02:47, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
Mathew: Seriously, you are not achieving anything useful here, but just getting yourself and others more upset. Drop it. Everyone else: I appreciate that all of you are trying to help Mathew get the point, but if he is not able to understand why this has become such a problem for him, I don't know that anything we can do here is likely to be beneficial. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:36, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
Not sure how to move forward
Never mind after seeing hundreds of edits I have movd this to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive239#CBS Records.Moxy (talk) 18:35, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
Not sure what should be done about a problem I am having. Over at Talk:CBS Records you will see an ongoing talk about were links should go and if the page should be a dab page or not. ..talks are not going well. but that's not why I am here. The reason I am here is I am wondering what happens when an editor simply keeps redirecting links - making the page a dab page during the talks on the links and what should be done about the page. Basically during the talk we have an editors still doing what they believe is best despite concerns raised about there actions because of an ongoing talk about the topics. I there somewhere to go that will look this over.Moxy (talk) 16:53, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
inre don't stop believin' tv series
Hi, this is regarding your edit at Don't Stop Believin' (TV series), in which you removed a large chunk of words. Not sure about the policies on dramas, is it appropriate to remove plots for drama serial pages? Thanks. Bonkers The Clown (talk) 07:10, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
If you reply on your talk, do leave a talkback on my talk Bonkers The Clown (talk) 07:10, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
Just as a friendly reminder, you are one of five people who are listed as serving on the current coordinator tranche of the Military history Project that have not yet indicated whether you will be standing for reelection in the upcoming election. The deadline to clarify is 23:59 today, and having an answer from you will help us determine with a greater degree of certainty who will be returning and who won't, so if you can spare a moment please drop by and amend your status in the table accordingly. Thanks in advance, TomStar81 (Talk) 08:39, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
FAC for Microsoft Security Essentials
I'm relieved to see your comments there; I was beginning to feel like some kind of pariah among all the fan supports. Malleus Fatuorum 16:48, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- Strange which topics seem to attract those – I wouldn't have guessed anti-virus software would have so many fans. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:55, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- Maybe I'm out of touch. Maybe FAs aren't supposed to be our best work any more, just our most popular work. Malleus Fatuorum 16:59, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
Hi, Nikkimaria. Could I bother you for a source review of Sadie Harris at its FAC? No rush, of course. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:06, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the review, I replied to your comments at the FAC. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 03:39, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
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Ray Farquharson (1897–1965) was a Canadian doctor, university professor, and medical researcher. Born in Claude, Ontario, he attended and taught at the University of Toronto for most of his life, and was trained and employed at Toronto General Hospital. With co-researcher Arthur Squires, Farquharson was responsible for the discovery of the "Farquharson phenomenon", an important principle of endocrinology. He served in the First and Second World Wars, earning appointment as a Member of the Order of the British Empire for his medical work during the latter. He chaired the Penicillin Committee of Canada and served as a medical consultant for the Royal Canadian Air Force. He was awarded the Queen's Coronation Medal in 1953 as a result of his work for the Defence Review Board. As a member of the National Research Council of Canada, his "Farquharson Report" led to the establishment of the Medical Research Council of Canada, of which he was the first president. Farquharson was posthumously inducted into the Canadian Medical Hall of Fame in 1998. (more...)
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Since you have already looked at the image ....just FYI Wikipedia:Non-free content review#File:Oka stare down.jpg.Moxy (talk) 16:28, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
Ian Fleming
Hi Nikki, I wonder if you have a bit of spare time to undertake a reference review for an article at FAC, Ian Fleming? I'm reasonably confident of the refs, but there is always a chance that things have slipped through to add to any of my errors. Many thanks if you have the time! Cheers - SchroCat (^ • @) 08:22, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks Nikki—your comments are hugely useful and appreciated as ever: I think they are all now covered. Cheers - SchroCat (^ • @) 20:18, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
Assistance request
Hi Nikkimaria, I was going through WP:FAC the other day, and I saw your comments at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/IPad (3rd generation)/archive3. I was wondering if you could help me copyedit the article Samsung Galaxy S III or review the article Nexus 7 at Wikipedia:Peer review/Nexus 7/archive1. They're virtually complete, but need a major touch-up prior to a potential FAC. Cheers --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 08:09, 17 September 2012 (UTC) PS please disregard this message if you've got other commitments.
- I've addressed most of your comments. I'm stuck with several issues though. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 00:45, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for your time. I'll be informing you if either articles reach FA :) --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 01:45, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
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Hello, Nikkimaria
I'm bothering you about the FAC of Microsoft Security Essentials. Do you think we have sufficiently addressed your concerns? Or do you think some of your concerns are still not properly handled, especially in the light of the latest developments which you are no doubt aware of?
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 14:56, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Lisa, I'm planning on doing a run of reviews tomorrow, so will add yours to the list to revisit. I must admit to being rather confused by the recent developments there, as I was under the impression that the editor in question had previously supported/defended you, but no matter. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:45, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
- My talk page might clear things up. Well, relatively speaking. Fortunately, Lisa and Malleus have done a great deal of work together on improving the article, something that might not have looked obvious from the FAC page either. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 15:51, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, I did see the collaboration - very nice. But your talk page raises more questions than it answers. I mean, "Microsoft Security Essentials is better than every FA that you have ever written"? Opposing after that just seems pointy. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:00, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
- I think the clear implication is that all the changes I made degraded the article, dragging it down to my usual low and barely adequate standard. Malleus Fatuorum 16:27, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
- Hi. Thanks, Nikkimaria. Please keep us posted. And please never mind the recent developments themselves; they are easy to handle: Someone says "broken category", I'll fix it without even thinking whether it is FA-relevant or not. (Well, in this case someone beat me to it, but no difference.) Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 11:16, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
- Hi. I'm around for a while; so, I'll reply to FAC whenever necessary. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 16:39, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
Hello, Nikkimaria
Although the FAC is over, I don't still understand your objections to the citations. Can you please tell me what was it all about?
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 16:13, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Lisa, do you mean the reliability or the consistency issues? Nikkimaria (talk) 03:19, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
- I mean consistency. What did you exactly check? Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 03:25, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
- Basically, references of the same "type" should be formatted as similarly as possible. Look at the last set of examples I gave (which MF has since fixed): "AV-TEST is italicized in FN 52 but not 53, FN68 capitalizes "Blog" while 64 does not, and Ars Technica is wikilinked in FN18 and 36 but not 49 (should be on first, all, or no occurrences, as you prefer).". All three examples concern comparisons between citations to the same website, but where the formatting used was slightly different; these concepts can be extended to "types" of references, as in web sources, magazines, etc. For example, if you decided to italicize AV-TEST, you would also need to italicize av-comparatives.org and the other website names. If you decided you wanted to wikilink terms on first occurrence in references only, you would apply that to everything you linked there. I think what ended up happening on that point was MF decided to wikilink each term on each occurrence, which is also fine - there's no requirement either way, just that within the article it be consistent. WP:MOS makes some general rules that you're expected to follow in a "perfect" article, but where it doesn't - that is, where there is deviation/inconsistency between articles - you're expected to stick with the same style within your single article. Does that make sense? Nikkimaria (talk) 03:43, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
- Hi. Yes, it does. That answers a lot of my questions.
- Basically, references of the same "type" should be formatted as similarly as possible. Look at the last set of examples I gave (which MF has since fixed): "AV-TEST is italicized in FN 52 but not 53, FN68 capitalizes "Blog" while 64 does not, and Ars Technica is wikilinked in FN18 and 36 but not 49 (should be on first, all, or no occurrences, as you prefer).". All three examples concern comparisons between citations to the same website, but where the formatting used was slightly different; these concepts can be extended to "types" of references, as in web sources, magazines, etc. For example, if you decided to italicize AV-TEST, you would also need to italicize av-comparatives.org and the other website names. If you decided you wanted to wikilink terms on first occurrence in references only, you would apply that to everything you linked there. I think what ended up happening on that point was MF decided to wikilink each term on each occurrence, which is also fine - there's no requirement either way, just that within the article it be consistent. WP:MOS makes some general rules that you're expected to follow in a "perfect" article, but where it doesn't - that is, where there is deviation/inconsistency between articles - you're expected to stick with the same style within your single article. Does that make sense? Nikkimaria (talk) 03:43, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
- I mean consistency. What did you exactly check? Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 03:25, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
- But I have another question: As I understand, there is another requirement: Citations must give enough information to help fix a potential link rot, am I right? For instance, when citing an announcement by a company, Microsoft has multiple outlets of announcement while other companies may only have one. Microsoft has product pages, TechNet network, MSDN network, PR website, blogs, support website and product relate websites. (Compare Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons.) So, I understand I must give enough information in case, for example, TechNet was divided into a ProNet and a ConsumerNet. Do you mind if I specify a
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for such sources, at the cost including none for others?
- But I have another question: As I understand, there is another requirement: Citations must give enough information to help fix a potential link rot, am I right? For instance, when citing an announcement by a company, Microsoft has multiple outlets of announcement while other companies may only have one. Microsoft has product pages, TechNet network, MSDN network, PR website, blogs, support website and product relate websites. (Compare Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons.) So, I understand I must give enough information in case, for example, TechNet was divided into a ProNet and a ConsumerNet. Do you mind if I specify a
- Best regards,
- Codename Lisa (talk) 11:41, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
- That's fine, as in that case there's a strong reason to deviate from the "basic" formatting. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:38, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
The Signpost: 17 September 2012
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- Featured content: Go into the light
- Technology report: Future-proofing: HTML5 and IPv6
Nikkimaria, sorry to bother you, but yours was the first name I recognized in the Coordinator list for WP:MILHIST. I'm a bit at sea (apologies for the pun) about the above article, in part because I'm wondering where the name "Battle of Olongapo" came from, and what the policy is on coming up with names for historical events. Can you please weigh in as someone who has experience with the issues involved? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:28, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
- The discussion on the template is unchanged since the 19th, and something needs to happen one way or the other. I see that AustralianRupert visited the article's talk page on the 20th, and seems on the verge of giving it a B-class rating, though he doesn't address the naming issue. Since as noted I'm not up to speed on MilHist matters, I'm going to leave this to you to see to a conclusion. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:58, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
Close paraphrase
Hi Nikkimaria
You tagged Hossam el-Hamalawy as a possible close paraphrase, but didn't indicate the possible source. Is it one of the references, another source, or the style? I want to look into it, but not sure where to start (I have tried CorenSearchBot, but it seems to be out of order.)--SPhilbrick(Talk) 21:33, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
- See here, linked from talk; I think it was transcluded there at the time, but might be wrong. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:30, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
- OK, thanks. I may return to this, but WP:CP is so backlogged, I'm looking for low-hanging fruit at the moment.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 12:59, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
Nikkimaria, can you please do me a favor and take a look at this article? One of the new QPQers, Futurist110, took this one on. It's a long article and very comprehensively cited, though almost all inline cites are from a few offline sources. There are two blockquotes, one four paragraphs, and another a single paragraph. I was able to find an online source for the really big one, and it was written in 1833 (an account of a murder) so I'd imagine it's public domain—I found another version on Scribd—but it seems an awful lot to quote, and the ref given doesn't work. Still, what I know you'll be able to address is what needs to be done regarding the sourcing, and what is appropriate usage and citation for these blockquotes.
Thanks for anything you can do: I'd like to leave this in your hands, including whether a different icon should be used (even if it's an AGF tick!) for the review. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:25, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you for commenting there; I really appreciate it. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:09, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- Many thanks for your help, can I ask how you were able to do it so quickly? Wee Curry Monster talk 20:19, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- Do what quickly, evaluate the length of the quote? Given the age it's fairly obvious it's PD, but those quotes take up 3 screens on my laptop – it just feels excessive, and would flow better if it were at least partially original (and encyclopedic) narrative prose. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:32, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- No the references, it takes me ages but you did it in a flash. Wee Curry Monster talk 21:18, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- I've memorized the formatting for most of the common citations, so that makes it easier; I also use wikEd, which makes them a different colour and thus easier to quickly isolate. Given the types of citations you're using you might consider {{sfn}} instead of the system you're using, but that's up to you. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:33, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
- I've some articles in sandpits, would you mind taking a gander at them and suggesting how I might structure it better? Wee Curry Monster talk 14:34, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
- I've memorized the formatting for most of the common citations, so that makes it easier; I also use wikEd, which makes them a different colour and thus easier to quickly isolate. Given the types of citations you're using you might consider {{sfn}} instead of the system you're using, but that's up to you. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:33, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
- No the references, it takes me ages but you did it in a flash. Wee Curry Monster talk 21:18, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- Do what quickly, evaluate the length of the quote? Given the age it's fairly obvious it's PD, but those quotes take up 3 screens on my laptop – it just feels excessive, and would flow better if it were at least partially original (and encyclopedic) narrative prose. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:32, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- Many thanks for your help, can I ask how you were able to do it so quickly? Wee Curry Monster talk 20:19, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- Nikkimaria, can you please take a quick look at it now? Wee Curry Monster has done narrative prose, and I've gone through to smooth things out, improve transitions in and out of quotes, and adding the required inline cites at the end of each paragraph, but a once-over to make sure there isn't any overly close paraphrasing would be welcome. If it's good, you can reinstate the approval on the template. Thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 16:28, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
Final Fantasy VII FAC:
Hi, I'm a unregistered user, but can you read the Final Fantasy VII article again and support (or oppose) its promotion to FA? 71.142.228.188 (talk) 19:45, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
- Hello, IP! I don't much care whether you're registered or not, but if you read down the review a bit you'll note that I've already opposed. Based on the nominator's comments, I don't anticipate any need to revisit anytime soon. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:23, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
Nikkimaria, I was hoping you would be able to take a look at this nomination. I've already done a round of copyvio deletions, and the text has been paraphrased and returned. I wouldn't mind having an overall close paraphrase check. What I'm unsure of is the neutrality and the sourcing, all of which are Armenian-American authors or institutions. I think it is almost certainly a notable article, and there was an LA Times article in 2011 about the unveiling of the freeway sign to the memorial, which itself was noteworthy. (The press covered the unveiling on April 1 rather than the physical installation of the signs ten days earlier that the article concentrates on.) Can I ask you to do the icon honors as well, or do you think a complete new review is in order, or a reiterated request for more independent sources? BlueMoonset (talk) 04:35, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
- Wasn't sure whether you noticed that there had been a response to your most recent comment -- I suspect it's an inadequate one, since it removes some text but doesn't seem to address the sourcing issue, but I could be wrong. Thanks for taking another look. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:05, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Page Curation newsletter
Hey Nikkimaria. I'm dropping you a note because you've been using the Page Curation suite recently - this is just to let you know that we've deployed the final version :). There's some help documentation here that shows off all the features, just in case there are things you're not familiar with. If you find any bugs or have requests for new features, let us know here. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 11:57, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
Country name
Hi Nikkimaria, I noticed that you changed Ivory Coast to the French version in the Crex article, and I wondered why. We normally refer to countries by their English name rather than what they call themselves — Germany and Burma, rather than Deutschland and Myanmar. I wonder what the logic is of making an exception for Cote D'Ivoire? Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:25, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
- The Burma-Myanmar issue is a bit more complex, but usually we go by common name. You can change it back if you prefer, I don't mind. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:30, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
- No big deal, I just wondered if I missed something (: Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:31, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
Links to relevant geographical articles
Come on, this is getting silly. You know that there is no consensus for stripping out relevant geographical links from country articles; that has been demonstrated numerous times at the linking guideline page and elsewhere. I've no issue with you removing genuine over-linked material, but there are several of your ongoing edits that do not fit that profile. Again, I implore you to please stop; let's find a better way to work this out. --Ckatzchatspy 02:20, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, let's, but for two things: at Guinea, the status quo is not to have that term linked. There is no consensus for either stripping or adding those links en masse, so absent that, leave it unlinked there, as it was before either of us edited the article. Second, at Canada, there was a consensus for removing those links. I'm aware that you and some others do not agree with that, but that's the way it ended up. The guideline page provides guidelines, not dictates, and not specifics: it is up to the editors at individual pages to decide how to apply said guidelines, and in this case the decision didn't go your way. Citing the protection comment, which in this context really amounted to a super-vote, doesn't override that entire discussion, I'm afraid. I'm quite willing to walk away from the dispute elsewhere, but not in these two cases, and particularly not at Canada, where there is a consensus for my position. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:33, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- You know there was not a consensus for removal at Canada; to state otherwise is counter-productive. Even the most cursory scanning of the extensive discussions there would confirm that assertion. It was simply tthe offshoot of a rote application of Ohconfucius' delinking script. You are (or should) be aware that the stripping of relevant links in that manner is highly controversial, as demonstrated over and over again at the linking guideline page and elsewhere. --Ckatzchatspy 03:46, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- On the contrary, I believe that there was such a consensus, and you've shown me no reason to believe otherwise. It certainly wasn't unanimous, and then as now you disagreed, but the results were in favour of linking in Geo, not the lead. The discussion arose from the edits of a now-block sockpuppet; the terms in question had been unlinked for at least a couple of months prior to that (I haven't checked further). That, incidentally, would appear to make the unlinked version the "no consensus" status quo, if the discussion was not clear enough for you. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:05, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- As stated clearly here and at the Canada talk page, the delinking was undiscussed and script-based, part of a controversial campaign to remove links that a handful of editors disagree with. If you peruse the entire extent of the discussion on the talk page, it becomes clear that there is no consensus to delink related and relevant terms that are generally accepted as suitable for the lead of a country article. --Ckatzchatspy 04:20, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- Asserted here by you and contradicted by the opening statement of the discussion I linked (which specifically references Ubiquinoid's May edits, not any by Ohconfucius). Even if we leave that aside, having perused the entire extent of the discussion, and having participated in said discussion, whatever the impetus for it was it ended up showing consensus to delink these terms in the lead of the Canada article. As I've already stated, I'm perfectly willing to accept that there is no consensus to either link or delink these terms on a wide scale, but in this specific case there is, and you're edit-warring against it. Nikkimaria (talk) 12:46, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- There's no contradiction at all - the links were removed without discussion in March by OC, as part of the generic script-based delinking that a handful of individuals are pursuing. Just because the individual who noticed it a while later has since been blocked does not invalidate the fact that he/she drew attention to OC's inappropriate changes. I'd argue - based on your edits at Canada and elsewhere - that you are the one edit-warring, especially based on the nature of your edit summaries when doing so. Please note, again, that the extensive discussion on the Canada talk page clearly demonstrates both a lack of unanimous support for removing relevant links and a sense that a localized talk page is an inappropriate place for such a discussion. --Ckatzchatspy 16:09, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- While minor, it is also important to note that the link we're disagreeing over in the lead of Guinea is also not the "status quo", as it too was stripped out by script a few months back. Single-minded applications of a controversial script do not automatically create a new "normal". --Ckatzchatspy 16:23, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- I already pointed out that the discussion wasn't unanimous, but consensus is not unanimity. I've also already explained that guidelines are not blow-by-blow dictates, and that they are appropriately applied via consensus at the relevant article talk page – as would be happening here, if you would stop insisting that the discussion was wrong just because you think it should have ended differently. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:06, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- Asserted here by you and contradicted by the opening statement of the discussion I linked (which specifically references Ubiquinoid's May edits, not any by Ohconfucius). Even if we leave that aside, having perused the entire extent of the discussion, and having participated in said discussion, whatever the impetus for it was it ended up showing consensus to delink these terms in the lead of the Canada article. As I've already stated, I'm perfectly willing to accept that there is no consensus to either link or delink these terms on a wide scale, but in this specific case there is, and you're edit-warring against it. Nikkimaria (talk) 12:46, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- As stated clearly here and at the Canada talk page, the delinking was undiscussed and script-based, part of a controversial campaign to remove links that a handful of editors disagree with. If you peruse the entire extent of the discussion on the talk page, it becomes clear that there is no consensus to delink related and relevant terms that are generally accepted as suitable for the lead of a country article. --Ckatzchatspy 04:20, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- On the contrary, I believe that there was such a consensus, and you've shown me no reason to believe otherwise. It certainly wasn't unanimous, and then as now you disagreed, but the results were in favour of linking in Geo, not the lead. The discussion arose from the edits of a now-block sockpuppet; the terms in question had been unlinked for at least a couple of months prior to that (I haven't checked further). That, incidentally, would appear to make the unlinked version the "no consensus" status quo, if the discussion was not clear enough for you. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:05, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- You know there was not a consensus for removal at Canada; to state otherwise is counter-productive. Even the most cursory scanning of the extensive discussions there would confirm that assertion. It was simply tthe offshoot of a rote application of Ohconfucius' delinking script. You are (or should) be aware that the stripping of relevant links in that manner is highly controversial, as demonstrated over and over again at the linking guideline page and elsewhere. --Ckatzchatspy 03:46, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
Nikkimaria, I dinged this one for close paraphrasing, but I've entered a busy day or two and am not able to give it the time it needs to check. Can I ask you to see whether it's okay to go, and give it the appropriate icon? Thanks, and apologies for dropping this in your lap. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:23, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks again for taking this one on. I ended up having to move it between prep areas so it wouldn't display during Israel's overnight hours... BlueMoonset (talk) 07:20, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
New Worlds refs
Hi -- can you take a look at the comment Jim Bleak made in the New Worlds FAC about using "US" and "UK" in the references? I don't know if there's a precedent to be followed here, and I know you do a lot of work with references and would probably know the answer. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 09:32, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
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Ambassador Inquiry
Hello NikkiMaria. I'm the instructor for a section of students at Ball State University in Indiana USA who are beginning a collaborative research project on Wikipedia for our Introduction to Digital Literacies class. I've been teaching with WP since Spring 2011; from my user page you can see a few example projects highlighted. We are currently in need of an online ambassador to advise five class groups on selecting topics and putting articles together: this means there will be five topics for an ambassador to assist with. Might you be interested in helping us? You can see the project timeline in my user area project subpage.
I have gone through the appropriate channels and application documents with the Wikimedia folks in charge of education programs, but have not heard back in nearly two weeks (I've emailed Jamie Mathewson twice). But time is getting short and we must begin—thus I'm taking the liberty of contacting potential ambassadors directly. Thanks for your consideration and good luck with your projects! (Pardon the duplication—I will also send this by email). –Webster Newbold (talk) 16:03, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
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- Thanks! Looking forward to working with you and the other
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Nikkimaria, I've just realized that I forgot about this one, and I'm flat out of time right now. Since it's your specialty, can I ask you to take a look, and give the appropriate icon? It also means that I can promote it, and the building screams "lead hook" to me. (I was disappointed when I realized the article had problems and I couldn't select it as I had wanted to do.) Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:19, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Mulugeta Buli
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Believe I fixed the issues. Till 07:22, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
- Looks good, thanks. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:05, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
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editing
Hello do I actually have to create a sandbox inorder to do the edits or can I just click on the edit button and type something in and how would I link the page to our course homepage if I have to add the link under my name? Azafar8 (talk) 23:23, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
Source review
Hi, Nikkimaria. When you find the time, could I bother you for a source and image review at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Going, Going, Gone (Grey's Anatomy)/archive1? Thanks, TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 00:31, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
Reply
Hello my second question was about posting a link on my course homepage under my name where we can do free edits how would I post the link on to my course page if I edit an article? How will I be able to see it once I log into the course page under free edits.Azafar8 (talk) 14:23, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
Reply
Hello I tried editing one the articles on wikipedia called Canadian Indian residential school systems and I tried adding the link to my course page just as you suggested,but I had encountered two problems one that it kept saying that the page didn't exsist even though when I searched it up I was able to find it so it wouldn't let me link the article to my course page second any edit that I made from myself under one of the sections of the article and saved the page it was removed couple of minutes later even though the sentences were not from any specific website I think it still requires me to cite how am I able to do that if the info is from myself when I am adding stuff from myself what am I supposed to do then?Azafar8 (talk) 00:50, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
FAR
Hi Nikki - Just a note that I'm leaving Wikipedia:Featured article review/Search engine optimization/archive2 and WP:Featured article review/Barack Obama/archive10 up to you. I started the former, and was involved in some pre-FAR discussion on the second (although that was in a delegate capacity, so I'm not completely sure I have a COI, but would still rather be safe than sorry). Let me know if there are any that you're involved in that I've missed - I plan to make a run through later today in any case. Thanks, Dana boomer (talk) 13:09, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Core Contest!
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- Nice job you did to improve Bob Hope by cleaning the article up! Binksternet (talk) 15:56, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
- Uh, are you guys in the right place? Nikkimaria (talk) 16:20, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
- D'oh! Teach me to do these things at 1am. I am so sorry, a Homer Simpson moment . Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:57, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
- Uh, are you guys in the right place? Nikkimaria (talk) 16:20, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Welcoming students
I see you welcomed a bunch. You may want to use {{welcome student}} or the ambassador variant linked there instead of a generic welcome template. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:56, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
I see that this has just been approved, though without a concurrence from you. Has it conquered all the close paraphrasing issues you identified, or do some still exist? BlueMoonset (talk) 17:05, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
- Already checked, it looks much better now. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:25, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. In that case, I feel safe about promoting it if it's still around when I build my next set. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:12, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Could you take a look at this nomination when you get a chance? The associate article uses an unusually large number of inline and block quotations and I would appreciate your option on whether this represents a problem with close paraphrasing or other similar issues. Nomination is currently held up with concerns over the article's citation density and style, so no big rush on this request. --Allen3 talk 23:33, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
- Will take a look shortly. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:59, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
- Okay. It's not a paraphrasing/copyvio issue. It may be a stylistic issue, and I'm a little uncomfortable with the synthesis approach in the Criticism section - up to you whether you want to raise these issues within the DYK review. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:18, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
minnowed
Plip!
- Aw, did your trouts have a baby? How cute! Nikkimaria (talk) 16:16, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
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Carl Pipkin Ball State Group Pathfinder
Hello!
I just wanted to touch base with you and let you know that I am one of the pathfinders for our class. Thanks for working with us!
Zcbp (talk) 02:36, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
- No problem, looking forward to it! Nikkimaria (talk) 02:42, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
Here are our three possible topics... What do you feel would be the best option for us? Thanks!
Okay, here are our 3 possibilities for an article... 1. Fruit Gushers (http://www.generalmills.com/Home/Brands/Snacks/Fruit%20Snacks/Brand%20Product%20List%20Page.aspx#%7B57546B5C-D377-4D5E-B280-9CCF6C771C94%7D) (http://www.generalmills.com/default.aspx) (http://www.fruitsnackia.com/) 2. Pizza Rolls (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/jeno-paulucci-food-visionary-behind-the-pizza-roll-dies-at-93/2011/11/30/gIQAkU4XEO_story.html) (http://www.totinos.com/products.aspx?id=F8E0AA63-A497-480F-A341-A8F917120C46) (http://kotaku.com/5945929/totinos-pizza-rolls-the-snacktaku-review) 3. Gardettos (http://www.generalmills.com/Brands/Snacks/Gardettos.aspx) (http://eatthis.menshealth.com/content/worst-snacks-supermarket?article=10&page=1) (http://web.ebscohost.com/ehost/detail?sid=2381a8b3-3603-46be-abcf-e61d9d725be5%40sessionmgr10&vid=1&hid=10&bdata=JnNpdGU9ZWhvc3QtbGl2ZQ%3d%3d#db=f5h&AN=2330777) Zcbp (talk) 14:39, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
<Ashley Kilhoffer> Ball State Group Pathfinder
Hi! I'm one of the pathfinders for the Ball State Group. I just wanted to introduce myself and say thanks for taking the time to be our ambassador.
Ashleynk (talk) 04:25, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
- Welcome Ashley! Nikkimaria (talk) 11:51, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
These are ideas my group had for either starting a wiki page or adding on to one
1. Ball State College of Communication, Information, and Media building http://www.msktd.com/project/academic/Ball+State+University+-+Letterman+Communication+and+Media+Building http://cms.bsu.edu/Academics/CollegesandDepartments/CCIM.aspx http://www.bsudailynews.com/ball-state-students-take-home-emmys-1.2742800#.UHbZ52g_5UQ
2. Stargazer Lily http://www.gardenguides.com/75313-stargazer-lilies.html http://thefieldofflowers.wordpress.com/2011/05/21/flowering-facts-stargazer-lilies-a-type-of-oriental-lilies/
3. Bath and Body Works http://www.limitedbrands.com/our_company/about_us/timeline.aspx http://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/archives/fdaDrugInfo.cfm?archiveid=40732 Ashleynk (talk) 01:20, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
It was more for the college! I think I was on cruise control when I typed building, but it would be about the Ball State College of Communication, Information, and Media and it's sub departments and activities as well as awards. and functions. Ashleynk (talk) 23:55, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
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<Megan Tolley> Ball State group pathfinder
Hello,
My name is Megan Tolley and I am in english 213 Digital literacies. I believe you are our ambassador for our class project!! I was just emailing you to let you know that I am the path finder for our group! MeganTolley5 (talk) 13:31, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
- Welcome Megan! Nikkimaria (talk) 13:35, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
Chad Ragan Ball State Pathfinder
<ChadRagan> Ball State University Hi Nikkimaria. I am one of the Pathfinders for my ENG213 Digital Literacies class with Dr. Newbold. I appreciate you agreeing to offer your expertise and guidance with this project our class is working on! I look look forward to hearing from you. Thank you again. (ChadRagan (talk) 14:22, 9 October 2012 (UTC))
- Hey Chad! Nikkimaria (talk) 02:18, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
- My group has a few topic ideas that are located in my sandbox area. We would all appreciate it if you took the time to look over the possible topics. Thanks for your help! ChadRagan (talk) 14:46, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
<Kameron McBride> Ball State Group Pathfinder
Hello,
My name is Kameron McBride and I am the pathfinder for my group and I just wanted to thank you for being willing to be our ambassador and I hope this project goes well!
Thanks!
Sincerely
- Welcome Kameron! Nikkimaria (talk) 02:18, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
<Aubrey Coquillard> Ball State Group Pathfinder
Hi there,
My name is Aubrey and I'm a pathfinder for Webster's Intro to Digital Literacies class. I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing so hopefully I don't mess anything up on here. Hope you're having a lovely day!
Amcoquillard (talk) 15:22, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
- Hey Aubrey, no worries, feel free to ask whenever you need a hand figuring stuff out! Nikkimaria (talk) 02:18, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
- Aubrey is actually in section 4 working with another ambassador, but thanks for your encouragement. Webster Newbold (talk) 22:31, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
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We Can Do It! now FA
Thanks for your review of the "We Can Do It!" article. It made FA status today but it can still be improved. You made several observations at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/We Can Do It!/archive1 but I'm not certain they were all answered. Cheers - Binksternet (talk) 18:10, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
Close some applications?
Hey Nikki. There's a couple open applications at WT:Online Ambassadors. I've commented, so I shouldn't close them. Could you? Best, The Interior (Talk) 04:30, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
ambassador
Hello,
Our group (for English 213 Digital Literacies) has come up with three topics for our project. The topics are Hot Sauce, Zebra gum or the plastic balls used in the ball pits. We would really like to do a certain type of Hot Sauce (a specific brand). Please let us know what you think.
(MeganTolley5 (talk) 14:10, 11 October 2012 (UTC))
Franz Kafka FAC
Hi Nikki. You did such a great job on reviewing and doing a source check on Yogo sapphire that I was hoping you'd do the source check in this Kafka FAC. It has two supports and an image check already. It's a dual nom of Gerda and I. We'd appreciate it. Thank you. PumpkinSky talk 10:55, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Will do, but remind me if I haven't gotten there in the next ~24-48 hours. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:17, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- No rush, we are both away for the weekend, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:58, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Wow. It's got 4 supports now.PumpkinSky talk 23:50, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
- Graham already promoted this. If you still want to check it to make it better, just drop it on Talk:Franz Kafka or on my talk page. I'm all up for making it better. PumpkinSky talk 19:20, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- Wow. It's got 4 supports now.PumpkinSky talk 23:50, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
- No rush, we are both away for the weekend, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:58, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
New User
Hey Nikki,
I'm doing a project for my english class. I chose to setup a page on Clemson University's Experimental Forest. My layout is in my sandbox. How would you grade it? Is there anything I need to take out or add? Your help is very appreciated.
Here is a link to my page: user:bennyvu/sandbox Ben Vukov Bennyvu (talk) 16:36, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Gaston Hamelin
On 13 October 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Gaston Hamelin, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Gaston Hamelin taught his students not to bite? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Gaston Hamelin. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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Fed up...
Really? Go on then, block me... to be honest I will take it as a badge of honour because Wikipedia has just been reduced to bunch of trolling idiots over the past couple of years. I feel I have been hounded by J3Mrs (and to some extent Malleus Fatuorum who is his sidekick friend and a reputation for being uncivil to others) for over a year now. No one ever does anything about it. MediaCityUK (August 2011 onwards and Rangoon11 was a victim too), One Angel Square, even List of warehouses in Manchester the other day, J3Mrs was straight onto me like a hawk and suggested the list was not even required. I do not enjoy it and it seems to me their ulterior to drive any editor away who they don't like. If that's the Wikipedia you want where current and prospective editors are turned away then you can forget it. I feel I am a productive editor. I have been on here for over 6 years and have made 7000+ edits but I am at the end of my tether. I have just about had enough.... Stevo1000 (talk) 16:29, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
- And just as I finished writing that paragraph:
- Your opinion is duly noted. Now fuck off. Malleus Fatuorum 16:27, 13 October 2012 (UTC) [2]
- Is this the Wikipedia you stand for? I never used profanity on Wikipedia to other editors yet I am being told I could be the one who gets banned. Laughable... Stevo1000 (talk) 16:33, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
- Banned, no. Blocked, if you persist? Certainly. You've been pointed to Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia, and you really need to read it, thoroughly, and provide correct attribution when you copy between articles. If you don't feel you can do that and move on, you need to back away and find some way to calm down for a few hours, because at the moment you're earning your own "uncivil" reputation. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:05, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
- I'm earning an "uncivil" reputation for telling the truth? Have I told anyone to fuck off? Only on Wikipedia I guess... It would be nice if you read this too: Wikipedia:Why is Wikipedia losing contributors - Thinking about remedies. Regards. Stevo1000 (talk) 21:54, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
- Are you certain you know what the truth is? Malleus Fatuorum 00:28, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- Profanity and incivility are not the same thing. You may not have used the words "fuck off" (though I'll note that you did indeed tell someone to do so), but things like this or this do the same job in more words. Again: if you can't keep it together, you need to know when to step back. One of the pieces of advice offered by the page you linked is to slow down and allow yourself time to think before you say or do something rash – are you following that advice? Nikkimaria (talk) 02:44, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- You're just trying to be a smart Alec now. Why don't you just fuck off? Profanity seems to be happily condoned on Wikipeida now. Stevo1000 (talk) 20:30, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- Just pointing out why your complaints aren't being well received. As I've already told you, profanity is not a problem in and of itself – it's all a matter of how words are applied, and in this case your application is the poorer. And where exactly would you like me to fuck off to? This is my talk page, on which you're choosing to post. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:51, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- Complaints are never well received. It doesn't surprise me Wikipedia is losing editors. Stevo1000 (talk) 21:04, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- Me neither, though I suspect for different reasons. Are you prepared to follow policy and move on now, or am I going to be hosting for a while yet? I'll whip up some lemonade. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:44, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
- Complaints are never well received. It doesn't surprise me Wikipedia is losing editors. Stevo1000 (talk) 21:04, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- Just pointing out why your complaints aren't being well received. As I've already told you, profanity is not a problem in and of itself – it's all a matter of how words are applied, and in this case your application is the poorer. And where exactly would you like me to fuck off to? This is my talk page, on which you're choosing to post. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:51, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- You're just trying to be a smart Alec now. Why don't you just fuck off? Profanity seems to be happily condoned on Wikipeida now. Stevo1000 (talk) 20:30, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- I'm earning an "uncivil" reputation for telling the truth? Have I told anyone to fuck off? Only on Wikipedia I guess... It would be nice if you read this too: Wikipedia:Why is Wikipedia losing contributors - Thinking about remedies. Regards. Stevo1000 (talk) 21:54, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
- Banned, no. Blocked, if you persist? Certainly. You've been pointed to Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia, and you really need to read it, thoroughly, and provide correct attribution when you copy between articles. If you don't feel you can do that and move on, you need to back away and find some way to calm down for a few hours, because at the moment you're earning your own "uncivil" reputation. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:05, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
Cyclone Rewa
Hi there, would you be able to give Cyclone Rewa a copyedit please? Many Thanks in advance.Jason Rees (talk) 22:17, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
New Worlds promoted
It made it. Thanks for your help! Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 16:56, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
Potential Project Subjects
Hi there Nikkimaria I am one of the Ball State students working on our Wikipedia project and I had a few potential research topics I wanted to run by you (included are some sites form preliminary research we conducted):
Scopophobia
http://digitalcommons.wku.edu/theses/1131/ —http://www.pep-web.org/document.php?id=paq.045.0634a —http://sb6nw2tx4e.scholar.serialssolutions.com/?sid=google&auinit=A&aulast=Albrechtslund&atitle=Surveillance+and+ethics+in+film:+Rear+window+and+the+conversation&title=Journal+of+criminal+justice+and+popular+culture&*
White Widow (Cannibis)—I don't feel great about this project, but it was just a random idea thrown out
http://www.kindgreenbuds.com/marijuana-strains/whitewidow.html http://www.medicalmarijuanastrains.com/white-widow/ http://www.ministryofcannabis.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=19&lang=en&limitstart=0&vmcchk=1&Itemid=19
And another one we're thinking about is the idea of Family Secrets
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-long-reach-childhood/201010/family-secrets
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/family-secrets
http://www.psychologytoday.com/collections/201107/family-secrets
We tried to pick topics that we could really expand upon.
Thanks for your input!
Kameron (*Kameron.McBride (talk) 01:17, 16 October 2012 (UTC))
Ambassador for Eng class 213
Hello,
After much thought, our group for the English 213 Digital Literacies class has decided to try out three new topics and this time I have also provided some possible references. I appreciate your patience and look forward to reading your input!
Three Topics
1. expanding the Indiana Beach (local amusement park) page
2. Indy Scream Park
3. The Indianapolis Zoo
Three References
1.http://www.indianabeach.com
2.http://www.indyscreampark.com
3.http://www.indyzoo.com/SitePages/home.aspx
(MeganTolley5 (talk) 02:05, 16 October 2012 (UTC))
Nikkimaria, this is an odd situation. The author of the article seems to have commissioned the report that's so much of the article (details on the article's talk page and author's talk page), but as far as I can tell there is no release in the report PDF for the photo in the nomination (despite a pointer to the report), or for that matter, the report itself.
As the article appears to be almost completely a copy of sections of this report, I'm about to flunk it because I seriously doubt there are 1500 prose characters original to Wikipedia, but I'm worried that there are more serious issues involved. Can you please take a look and do whatever is appropriate? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:49, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not ignoring this, really - will get to it in a few hours (*fingers crossed*). Nikkimaria (talk) 22:11, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Clarinet Concerto No. 2 (Arnold)
On 16 October 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Clarinet Concerto No. 2 (Arnold), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that when Benny Goodman called to commission a clarinet concerto, Malcolm Arnold yelled "Sod off!" and hung up? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Clarinet Concerto No. 2 (Arnold). You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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WP referencing in the GEL
Hi Nikki
I hope your clarinet is sounding great these days.
I'll be doing my best to impersonate you on thursday with a session on referencing in WP. Would you be able to meet with me before then. Maybe I can just do a similar exercise to the one you did last year?
I'm available Wed 2 - 4 and Thurs am before 10:30. Again at 12 until 3:30.
Just pick something that works for you and let me know by email.
Thanks
TomHaffie (talk) 18:07, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi: This article appears to me not to meet the DYK minimum of 1,500 characters. Is my Microsoft Word malfunctioning? I count 1,386. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:27, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) DYKcheck's count is 1,384. The article is also classified as a stub on its talk page. These should really be fixed, or the nomination temporarily pulled back; the hook's just been promoted to Queue 3. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:15, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- Expanded, not sure what happened there. Nikkimaria (talk) 21:56, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- Oh great, now I can undo the not very good swap I did! Going over to have a look now. Yngvadottir (talk) 21:58, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- DYKcheck still says the article is a stub. Can that please be taken care of too? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:11, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- I think this is done? Nikkimaria (talk) 03:23, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, Nikkimaria. All set: DYKcheck is certainly satisfied. :-) Basically, if it's considered a stub by any of the WikiProjects on the talk page, or has a stub template on the main article page, DYKcheck picks it up and points out the issue, which is very handy when reviewing a nomination. (It also checks In the News and does other useful things.) BlueMoonset (talk) 03:44, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- I think this is done? Nikkimaria (talk) 03:23, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- DYKcheck still says the article is a stub. Can that please be taken care of too? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:11, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- Oh great, now I can undo the not very good swap I did! Going over to have a look now. Yngvadottir (talk) 21:58, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- Expanded, not sure what happened there. Nikkimaria (talk) 21:56, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks for Anne Hutchinson comments
Hi Nikkimaria, and thanks very much for the helpful comments on the sourcing and images for the subject article. I think I've answered the mail, except am trying to get some help with the Hutchinson statue image. I greatly appreciate your detailed comments.Sarnold17 (talk) 00:41, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
Request
Hi Nikki, quick request. I'm not around much these days - or hoped not to be around much. If ILT sees this situation (sigh!), and leaves abusive messages on my page, will you please protect. Thanks. Truthkeeper (talk) 20:20, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks x 2. Hopefully there won't be any fallout. Truthkeeper (talk) 01:51, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Georges Grisez
On 18 October 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Georges Grisez, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Georges Grisez died on stage after playing the opening glissando of Rhapsody in Blue? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Georges Grisez. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi From Clemson
Hello, My name is Mimieux Land. I am currently working on an assignment for my Eng course. I would really appreciate you advice and feedback on my contributions so far. Thank you. User:Mxland/sandbox Hi there, I'm Jake Collins and I am working on an article for James U. Jackson. I would appreciate any advice or feedback on what I have written so far. Thanks! User:Jake29841/sandbox
Jake29841 (talk) 15:47, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hello Ms.Maria I am Alex Watson and I am working on creating and article on forensic limnology. I would appreciate any feedback or help you are willing to offer. Thanks! AWATSO6 (talk) 14:18, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hey Ms. Maria, my name is Brad Tedstone and I am editing the Harbour Town Golf Links Wikipedia page for my English class. If you have any advise or help that would be awesome. Thanks BTedstone (talk) 21:17, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi Ms. Maria my name is Frank Marrero and I am working with (Groom's Cake) paage. The link to my sadbox is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fmarrero/sandbox and can you help with any feedback. ThanksFrank Marrero (talk) 14:14, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi my name is Andre Bourg. I am editing a page entitled, "Night Markets in Taiwan." I would really appreciate any help. Here is a link to my sandbox, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Andrebourg/sandbox. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrebourg (talk • contribs) 14:12, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi Ms. Maria, my name is Vicky Schwehr and I am recreating the Leonidas (chocolate maker) page. The link to my sandbox is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vickyleighgirl/sandbox and I would really appreciate any feedback you have. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vickyleighgirl (talk • contribs) 14:07, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
HI NIki, Meet my newest group of students at Clemson. Pfancher (talk) 13:28, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi my name is Andrea Cooper and I am a student at Clemson University. My english class is doing a project on Wikipedia creating or editing an article. I found that the page on the hawk needed some work so i choose that one. I still have a good bit of work to do but if you had any suggestions on my sandbox i would love to hear them. Thank You My name is John Schappler and the article I am doing in on Irasburg Vermont. Any feedback that you have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Her is the link to my project http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Johnnyschapps/sandbox Johnnyschapps (talk) 12:32, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi there Ms. Maria, I'm working on an article for my ENG101 class on a film. I was wondering if you would be able to review my to-date work in my sandbox? Thank you for your time! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Traddalonious/sandbox Traddalonious (talk) 12:34, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hey Nikkimaria! I'm Mary Kate (a freshman at Clemson University) and I wanted to thank you so much for helping us out on our assignment. My topic is Desserts and its been a little difficult since its such a broad topic so any help or suggestions you have would be awesome. Here's my sandbox and what I've been working on lately. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mkt324/sandbox (talk) 12:40, 18 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkt324 (talk • contribs)
Hi my name is Christy Czarnecki and I am working on the article for Hacklebarney State Park. Here is the link to my sandbox user:christyczar/sandbox if you have any suggestions please let me know! Thank you.Christyczar (talk) 12:44, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi Nikkimaria, my name is Parker Jones and I am in Professor Fancher's english class working with wikipedia. I am working on the article for the Mars Exploration Program. Here is the link to my sandbox http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pacojo29/sandbox; please let me know if you have any suggestions or feedback, any help is appreciated. Pacojo29 (talk) 12:40, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hey Nikkimaria! I'm Mary Kate (a freshman at Clemson University) and I wanted to thank you so much for helping us out on our assignment. My topic is Desserts and its been a little difficult since its such a broad topic so any help or suggestions you have would be awesome. Here's my sandbox and what I've been working on lately. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mkt324/sandbox (talk) 12:43, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hey, I'm Corey Stoner and I am a student at Clemson University. My class is currently working on a wikipedia article, and mine is about a comic book group, Mandarin's Avengers. Do you have any suggestions or ideas. User:Clevebluff2012/sandboxClevebluff2012 (talk) 13:28, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi Nikki, my name is Zee Sneed. I'm editing the article on the comedian Kevin Hart. If you have any advice for what to add or how to word my writing or anything at all, it would be very appreciated! Msneed19 (talk) 14:18, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi, my name is Reece Wilber and I'm working on the Environmental Law article. If you have any advice or suggestions it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Reecelw/sandbox
Hey, my name is Will Clevidence and here's my sandbox to my Chia Seed article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wclevid/sandbox Any advice, critique, etc. would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!Wclevid (talk) 14:07, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi, my name is Thomas Rapp and I chose to work on articles concerning the Summer of Love and the Second Summer of Love. Any advice or suggestions would be awesome. Thanks so much! Tsrapp (talk) 14:18, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi Nikkimaria, my name is Sarah Jean Hinson and I'm a freshman at Clemson University. My class is currently doing a project on working within wikipedia. Thank you so much for your time and effort. I have chosen to work on the article for Johns Island, South Carolina. Here is the link to my sandbox http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sjhinso/sandbox; any feedback or suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks! Sjhinso (talk) 14:20, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
- To all: Welcome to Wikipedia! I'll do my best to respond to each of you individually over the next little while, so make sure to watch your talk page. Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 15:16, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hello, my name is Ian Finley. I am currently working on an article on Custom Robo in my sandbox. Do you have any advice for using sources in foreign languages? My topic is about a Japanese game that was not released in America, so there are very few sources in English. I really appreciate all the hard work you do to help us, and I hope to hear from you soon! Kaitoyuuki (talk) 16:57, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi my name is Andrea Cooper and I am a student at Clemson University. My english class is doing a project on Wikipedia creating or editing an article. I found that the page on the hawk needed some work so i choose that one. I still have a good bit of work to do but if you had any suggestions on my sandbox i would love to hear them. Thank You Andi7855 Andi7855 (talk) 17:37, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi NikkiMaria, my name is Julia Simpson and I am working on the article Fauna of Belize for a class assignment. I was wondering if you had any suggestions or comments for my work. The link to my sandbox. User:Jsimps8174/sandbox Jsimps8174 (talk) 18:40, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hello, my name is Cody Key and I am working on a class project at Clemson University. I am working on the article for my former high school, Goose Creek High School. If you have any suggestions, please let me know. The link to my sandbox is User:Ckey11/sandbox. Thanks.Ckey11 (talk) 20:32, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hello, I'm Jason Moustafa and Ive started a page for Matt Chandler in my sandbox: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ClemsonScholar4/sandbox any feedback and advice is much appreciated. Thank you, ClemsonScholar4 (talk) 21:14, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hello Ms. Maria my name is Ethan McAlhaney and I have just created the page for the SweetWater Brewing Company if you have any advice I would appreciate it. Mcbadphish (talk) 21:53, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hello! My name is Cole Swartwood and I'm a freshman at Clemson University. In my english class we are doing a project with Wikipedia where we have to edit and add material to a page. I chose to work on the page Sports in Venezuela and here is the link to my sandbox http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cworld7/sandbox, your advice or any suggestions you have would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for all that you do with Wikipedia! Cworld7 (talk) 23:09, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Hello, my name is Trevor Hanna. I am currently working on a project for an English course at Clemson University that requires a change to a wikipedia page. Can you please look in my sandbox and see if there is anything that I can improve on. Thank you for your time. User:Tqhtherock17/sandbox Tqhtherock17 (talk) 00:19, 19 October 2012 (UTC)