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Discussion on deletion

I know this isn't really my article or anything, but its well-written and completely getting to a starting point where it has enough information! In about the next month, it will have more sources, charts, and information to go around! It shouldn't be a problem when I'm on Wikipedia and I see all these new albums that are coming out later in the year and they barely have information to begin with! This article has a decent amout of sources and information to start off with, but tell me this, what is the real problem? The Smell of Magic 01:13, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unapologetic or Side Effects

The article is listed as the former, but the lead cites it as the latter, which is it? AARONTALK 16:33, 11 October 2012 (UTC) It is Unapologetic --PidiContent (talk) 16:35, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Artwork sources

AARONTALK 16:37, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is this tracklist official?

Is this the official tracklist?

1. Diamonds 2. I Just Want To Be Found 3. What's Love Without A Tragedy 4. Isis 5. Life Is Beautiful 6. In Media Res 7. I Want You To Say 8. Heart Break 9. Go Harder Than My Nani 10. My Navy 11. Love Numb 12. I'm A Roc Girl 13. Love Now 14. Complete Woman 15. Petals 16. Jah — Preceding unsigned comment added by PidiContent (talkcontribs) 14:08, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Of course not, where is the source? — Tomíca(T2ME) 14:46, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I highly doubt there would be a song "My Navy". That sounds too ridiculous to be real (aside from Tommy's point).--CallMeNathanTalk2Me 20:43, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Of course not. It was invented by a member of the navy of course, the whole track listing. :) — Tomíca(T2ME) 20:46, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unapologetic Release Date

wasn't Unapologetic supposed to be released on November 19th, 2012 worldwide? :/ why does this page show different release days for the album? even on rihanna's twitter the background says 11/19/12 Worldwide — Preceding unsigned comment added by PidiContent (talkcontribs) 14:42, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you see the links in the release history table, you should notice in certain territories it will be released on November 16, 2012, and on Wikipedia we always use the first release date. — Tomíca(T2ME) 15:28, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Release date

In Sweden release date changed from 16 to 21 November (so first release date is November 19, 2012) http://cdon.se/musik/rihanna/unapologetic_-_deluxe_explicit_(cd%2bdvd)-21556914 . 83.4.131.232 (talk) 18:31, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kanye on Jump?

is he in the writing credits? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Born2booze09 (talkcontribs) 23:04, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It totally sounds like Yeezy to me (albeit with his voice altered) but at first I didn't even recognize him. Though I think it is Kanye, there's no current source to confirm it. And he's not listed on the tracklist so even if it is him, he may not be an official feature and may only be providing uncredited vocals. The album just leaked so lots of info will be flooding in, no reason to add uncredited stuff currently. But yeah, that's Kanye. Bruce Campbell (talk) 23:15, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OMG it leaked. Can you give me link where I can hear the album?:) — Tomíca(T2ME) 23:18, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Found it on Atrilli.net. It's really good. Bruce Campbell (talk) 23:25, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Guys, it's A$AP Rocky. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.55.109.152 (talk) 05:21, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

At this point I need a source just so I dont lose my mind... Bruce Campbell (talk) 17:15, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
If you ask me, it's Kanye :) ! But, still it's not officially credited. — Tomíca(T2ME) 17:25, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

it's Kevin Cossum — Preceding unsigned comment added by Born2booze09 (talkcontribs) 21:55, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 17 November 2012

numb samples can't tell me nothing, and the citation for that is on jump... it's all sorts of wrong

74.76.204.131 (talk) 17:55, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. HueSatLum ? 17:21, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Songwriter Credit

Yesterday Rihanna's website posted the album credits that do differ from the booklet. Including Rihanna as a writer for 12 of the 15 songs. [1] The site says that the credits are updated from the booklet, so should the credits from the site be used or the booklet? Seth71 (talk) 01:44, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The ones with the album booklet. — Lil_niquℇ 1 [talk] 13:21, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Pretty odd, whichever's incorrect. You'd expect a high-profile release to be more tidy about stuff like this. Perhaps make a note at the bottom of the track listing template that the website credits Rihanna on tracks so-and-so? Dan56 (talk) 13:27, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There is a note already. The booklet is fucked up, probably they will correct in the later publishing. — Tomíca(T2ME) 13:31, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Are the producers for track 3 actually credited with "@"'s in the booklet? Dan56 (talk) 13:40, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. Awkward, I know. — Tomíca(T2ME) 13:42, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The Official and Digital booklet should be the only source. Her fansite/website is not as reliable as BMI and or the booklet, so for now, the Booklet and the Digital Booklet, along with BMI, should be the only credible sources. 74.67.47.245 (talk) 19:54, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
How can her official site rihannanow.com not be reliable? The fact is that the booklet is wrong and has certain issues, the website has the right credits. Adele didn't write "Half of Me", it was Adele Emely Sande, however, the booklet lists Adele separately. — Tomíca(T2ME) 22:18, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This proves that they messed up the booklet, the only good source then is her website.--(CA)Giacobbe (talk) 23:35, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Metacritic

I strongly feel that the opening should say "generally favorable reviews from music critics" instead of "mixed". I've had this discussion with User:Fidelove but they seem intent on putting mixed even though I have explained to them that the "grade" on Metacritic states that it indicated "generally favorable reviews" I have agreed with them that it isn't a perfectly reviewed album and that is why I put how critics felt the album was rushed. For now, the album should say the album received generally favorable reviews if that is what Metacritic says, no? And if the user is intent on changing the opening, then they should at least change the Critical Reception section, which would be vandalism anyway because the source does not agree with this. Iluvrihanna24 (talk) 10:37, 24 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Tomica for sorting that situation out as I didn't want to violate my editing restrictions. Iluvrihanna24 (talk) 11:10, 24 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There are other news sources that verify "mixed" (Caribbean360 [2], Digital Spy [3], Chicago Tribune [4], AnyDecentMusic? [5]), but any statement in the lead about the reception might be premature. While Metacritic does show more mixed reviews than either negative or positive, they weigh different publications differently in their scores, and it's also early, so it would be incomplete if more reviews were to come. As of now, though, this should suffice. Dan56 (talk) 18:04, 24 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Album Artwork Controversy

there should be a section in the article surrounding the album cover and the "uncensored version" going around the internet — Preceding unsigned comment added by Distortiondude (talkcontribs) 03:58, 26 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Chart Debut in Australia

Unapologetic debuted this week at No. 8 on the Official ARIA Chart (link: http://www.ariacharts.com.au/chart/albums/370 ) and at No. 1 on the Urban Chart (link: http://www.ariacharts.com.au/chart/urban-albums/367 ) I would add the data myself although I'm not exactly sure how. 58.165.62.140 (talk) 05:36, 26 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unapologetic? Let's "Pon De Replay".

This may not get a Wiki edit at all, but for those out there looking for a point on what this lucky seven effort by an artist who tells us she has been unapologetic throughout her whole music career, then read on. Seven albums in a span of 8 years, an in and out relationship with every high profile man, acting in film, near-constant working herself to death, tweets back and forth, abandoning her record company bosses, smoking like a train, getting hospitalized, and still she goes right back into all of this. Year after year, and so far..... She deems herself unapologetic. Just like James Brown's slogan, only.... The Hardest Working Woman In Show Business. Fortunately, she's only 24 years old. To mainly, everybody she's touched in her life: Her fans should not feel guilty to be a huge fan of hers. She can't undo seven albums in eight years. She has been smoking behind closed doors. She continues to sing, dance and party. Now she returns back to arms that she longs for, those same ones that injured her. In short, this album tells us that Rihanna is unapologetic for "everything Rihanna". She's charged with even contemplating her music career to go in this direction. Guilty, but we can't punish her! She's cray cray. Signed, a Rihanna fan.