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Thangal Uppapa?

Nellikunnu Muhyaddin Juma Masjid needs some local sources. Probably a Malayali speaker is needed In ictu oculi (talk) 11:33, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to India noticeboard. Sorry to see you have not got any reply. Actually there are not too many users here in WP India noticeboard who are fluent in Malayali/Arabic. I have tried to search in Arabic, but have not found any good result. Here is a reliable source on the festival! --Tito Dutta (contact) 06:29, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you TitoD. Helpful as always. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:16, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reviving INCOTM

The Indian collaboration of the month project is lying idle for the last 5-6 months. The interested editors who are willing to take up collaborative improvement of articles related to India are requested to give their consent/support below. Amartyabag TALK2ME 09:08, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Very good idea! We need a volunteer coordinator to manage it! Once the INCOTM starts, its our experience the collaborators will come, :)! AshLin (talk) 14:58, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree with Aslin. T4B (talk) 15:03, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, essentially we need the coordinator. There was a discussion in the Indian mailing list after BPositive stopped working as the coordinator. Someone wanted to be the coordinator (I forgot who) but did not have a lot of experience. But that seems ok now, I mean even without less experience, we need one coordinator. Any one? Or, we can enforce someone :P --Dwaipayan (talk) 17:32, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Who wanted to be the co-ordinator? Remind him! --Tito Dutta (contact) 06:16, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • whoever it was ( I forgot the name) s/he is not much active in Wikipedia at present. I propose the name of Tito Dutta as the new coordinator. If Tito accepts that, it would be great. He is currently very active ( not that the coordinator needs to be very active, moderate activity is sufficient).--Dwaipayan (talk) 06:26, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support for Tito's nomination as coordinator. I also feel handling one article would be more fruitful. Amartyabag TALK2ME 14:55, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am worried about my Wiki future. Eexpecting a long WikiBreak soon! Sitush or Ekabhishek might be a good co-ordinator!

Indian cinema centenary celebrations

It will be 100 years since Raja Harishchandra released on 3 May this year. There have been discussions what the TFA (Today's featured article) on that day. Since Mother India passed FAC today, I, along with behalf of my fellow nominators User:Dwaipayanc and User:Dr. Blofeld propose to have it as TFA on this day. Thoughts... --Redtigerxyz Talk 17:08, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea. Definite support! --regentspark (comment) 17:13, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Mother India is nominated at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests. --Redtigerxyz Talk 06:05, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Swiss tourist rape in India

Do we have an article on the Swiss tourist rape in India? -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 23:46, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:NOT#NEWS. The Delhi case is different because of the widespread demonstrations and protests. utcursch | talk 14:08, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Request: Indian version of India is Bharata not Bharat.

Could someone please change that? Bharata is the Sanskrutam,original, name of India. Bharat is the Hindi (and a small group of other languages) version. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.147.224.225 (talk) 15:46, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Two websites

I just found two articles on websites, that are orphaned that may need help: Pepperfry.com and gozoop.com. Simply south...... catching SNOWballs for just 6 years 17:46, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mount Elizabeth Hospital

Mount Elizabeth Hospital seems rather short article. Since several prominent people from outside of Singapore have died there (ie. President Zillur Rahman, 2012 Delhi gang rape victim), I assume this is a major medical center of advanced techniques in the region. As such, it should really have a longer article. -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 01:02, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Welcome to India noticeboard! Are you posting it at every noticeboard? I just replied the same message at BD noticeboard. I feel, this is more a WP SP (Singapore) issue, though someone of us can try to expand the article a bit! --Tito Dutta (contact) 01:31, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There must be a reason that the government of India chose this hospital, right? So I'd think someone from India may know about the hospital. -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 01:47, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Authenticity of "52 Hukams of Guru Gobind Singh"

Are the "52 Hukams of Guru Gobind Singh" authentic? I couldn't find any authoritative source which states that these were given by the Guru himself. Google leads to some forum discussions which question the authenticity of these "52 hukams", pointing out that the language used is modern Punjabi which was not prevalent around 1700 CE. Can anyone please confirm the authenticity? utcursch | talk 02:27, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This book appears to be the earliest modern compilation of Guru Gobind Singh's 52 Hukams purportedly written by Baba Ram Singh at Nanded in 1708 (a later edition/translation is available here). The author of this book claims that he came across these instructions in an old manuscript which, according to various internet forums, nobody has been able to find and was probably lost in 1984. I was hoping to find a claim about such an important historical discovery substantiated in independent works, but there is nothing about it on GBooks. It also seems unlikely that if such a work existed SGPC would ignore it in its compilation of Rehat Maryada published in 1945. To me this appears to be one of the many modern day myths that become a part of popular religion but have no historical or scriptural authenticity; a bit like new Upanishads or modern day Vedic mathematics (not to be confused with mathematics in Vedic period). Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 06:54, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, that helps a lot. I've quoted you at Talk:Khalsa#Third_opinion_needed_on_following_points. utcursch | talk 18:44, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Naming people in articles

Is there any guidance on how to name Indian people in the body of articles? We have MOS:IDENTITY but I think I've also seen something somewhere about use of patronymics etc. Generally speaking, we seem to treat the last name of an Indian person as if it were a westerner's surname and to refer to them as such after the first mention in the body, unless to do so would cause confusion. - Sitush (talk) 20:55, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Copyedit required

Does anyone fancy copyediting Maithil Brahmin#Organisation. Like many articles concerning Brahmin communities, this is just gibberish to non-Indians. - Sitush (talk) 08:47, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Neutrality issue: No mention of 1989 Insurgency and specific attacks against Hindu minority?

This page is transcluded to receive input simultaneously from various venues

Why is there not a single line in Kashmiri Pandit article about the eruption of armed rebellion ensuing Islamic insurgency of 1989 which has specifically targeted the Kashmiri Pandits minority in recent times and violated their human rights repeatedly?[1] Nothing whatsoever about the scores of onslaughts and human rights violations by Pakistan-backed militants, why? According to a resolution passed by the United States Congress in 2006, Islamic terrorists infiltrated the region in 1989 and since then nearly 400,000 Pandits were either murdered or forced to leave their ancestral homes.(ref: "Pallone introduces resolution condemning human rights violations against kashmiri pandits" if that doesn't work follow →[2])

They got "trained and armed" by the ISI. Ethnic cleansing continued till a vast majority of the Kashmiri Pandits were evicted out of the valley after having suffered many acts of violence, e.g. sexual assault on women, arson, torture, extortion of property etc.([3] & "Encyclopedia of human rights" p. 306)

"Many of the 250,000 refugee Kashmiri Pandits have been living in pitiable conditions in Jammu".[4]

Other sources
  • Encyclopedia of human rights. Oxford: Oxford University Press. 2009. p. 306. ISBN 978-0195334029. {{cite book}}: |first= has generic name (help); |first= missing |last= (help)CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
  • Catherwood, Christopher; Leslie Alan Horvitz. Encyclopedia of War Crimes and Genocide (1st ed.). Infobase. p. 260. ISBN 978-8130903637
  • Kushner, Harvey W. (2003). Encyclopedia of terrorism. Thousand Oaks, Calif.: Sage Publications. pp. 171–172. ISBN 0761924086.
I am not sure whether we can add it in the article of Kashmiri Pandits but we can have a seperate article something like Kashmiri Pandit Exodus or something like that--sarvajna (talk) 15:27, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I see that there is some mention in the page, but I still feel that the event is notable enough to have an article on its own --sarvajna (talk) 15:31, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It talks about "1948 Muslim riots" and "1950 land reforms". Just to clarify, I am not asking the content to be included verbatim as I have written it. We may modify it of course. But the real issues are A. the way it downplays the general predicament of Pandits and B. the amount of space dedicated to it. Even that section needs balancing. Such as there is no mention of the fact that only 3,445 pandits were still living in the Valley as of 2010 [5]. I am talking about the impact of the exponential rise of Islamic militancy since 1989 [6], [7]. Mr T(Talk?) (New thread?) 17:14, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with all your points and I do not see any reason why someone should object--sarvajna (talk) 07:49, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think you'll find that it was removed some time in the last two years because it was so POV-y and it unbalanced the article - the usual Hindu vs Muslim rubbish. Of course, the article is now unbalanced in the other direction. - Sitush (talk) 14:29, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

S6001271.JPG

file:S6001271.JPG has been nominated for deletion -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 05:24, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That seems to be their own work! --Tito Dutta (contact) 06:11, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Since it is used to illustrate a WPINDIA article, a replacement image would something that might be good to obtain. (just because it's up for deletion, doesn't mean that we need to keep this particular image, replacing it with a different one is also a possibility) -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 12:20, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In light of the 2014 general elections

Hi all. I've been thinking; next year is the 16th general elections, and I reckon a lot of people will be going online to figure out who they want to vote. Considering how simplistic, partisan and/or non-comprehensive most online sources are about our national leaders and parties, I feel Wikipedia can be an excellent, NPOV resource for provide prospective voters to make an informed decision.

With this in mind, a few questions/discussion-items:

  1. Would you be interested in forming a sort of informal taskforce to build these articles, as well as tackle inevitable vandalism, propaganda insertion as D-day approaches?
  2. What do you think are articles that will witness high traffic come election season? Obvious ones are various leaders such as Narendra Modi, Rahul Gandhi, Sonia Gandhi; parties such as Indian National Congress and Bharatiya Janata Party. Less obvious are things like Indian general election, 2014 (which will be linked from the main page news-section as well) and any number of smaller parties and candidates.
  3. Should we aim at getting a few articles to GA/FA levels or bring several articles to a just decent level to comprehensiveness?
  4. Can you think of appropriate article(s) we can work to feature on the main page on election day? For eg: if I can get hold of sources, I've been thinking of getting Indian general election, 1951 to the main page on the first day. Other options include 1st Lok Sabha on the day the 16th Lok Sabha commences.

Looking forward to hear what you think, and further ideas and suggestions as well.—indopug (talk) 16:23, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • rather than trying for FA, improving many articles to a decent level would be a better idea. The first general election or the first Lok Sabha, both will be very difficult to get to FA level.--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:51, 29 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

files up for deletion

have been nominated for deletion -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 00:20, 29 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Disruptive editing

Once again facing disruptive edits, this time by User:Mrwikidor. The user is serially nominating articles one after one for deletion, without initiating any discussion in the talk pages. Further, the user is blanking out properly referenced portions of articles without any discussion. Most importantly the user has resorted to personal attacks. Please take cognizance. BengaliHindu (talk) 12:36, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Would you mind to show us please? And, please stop making such accusation against me without showing where i did! Why didn't you messaged me or warned me before accusing here? By the way, why AfD creating problems to you? You've edited and improved the 2013 Canning riots article and removed the {{Wikiproject-Islam}} from its talk page[8] yet you didn't remove the template Template:Islamism in South Asia from the article where non-Islamic topics (according to you) are being added by a possible sockpuppet to the template[9]. You don't even bother to notify me before accusing me here! Again, this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bengali_Hindus shows your disrupting edits. But, i'm optimistic about the other Indian editors that they will understand the issue of Communalism and its curse that the India is still suffering and neutrally take decisions based on the sources provided in the articles. Best Regards,  Mrwikidor ←track 16:11, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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