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Talkback

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Please contact the Arbitration Committee

Hi Moxy, could you please contact me or the Arbitration Committee through the Wikipedia email extension (which you have not activated) or at nw.wikipedia@gmail.com or arbcom-l@lists.wikimedia.org? If you do the latter, we're going to need to go through a whole process to make sure that it is indeed you who is emailing us, so the former set of choices would be preferable. NW (Talk) 21:44, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Done got the massage "our mail to 'ArbCom-l' is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. -- Moxy (talk) 23:41, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Still waiting for approval - is there a time range for this wait? -- Moxy (talk) 02:23, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure; whenever a list admin sees it really. I received the note to my personal account though and I have responded. NW (Talk) 02:28, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Saskatchewan's population

Your edits to Saskatchewan Population numbers do not reflect out-migration including the young children leaving Saskatchewan with out-migrants.

Statistics Canada CANSIM Table 051-0017 clearly demonstrates an increasing population decline. In 2010 the out-migration was approximately 15,000. That number increased in 2011 by approximately 16.3% to around 17,500. In 2012 the out-migration increased by 16.3% to over 20,000 people leaving the province.

Statistics Canada has also identified the source of out-migration as overwhelmingly immigrants sponsored directly by the Government of Saskatchewan.

Approximately 65% of all births recorded as population increases are babies and children born to out-migrating immigrants.

Finally, analysis of out-migrants since 2007, when the current ruling government was elected, shows that to date over 89,000 people have left Saskatchewan since 2007. Applying statistical analysis to the curve plotting out-migration shows the number of people that will have left Saskatchewan since 2007 will exceed 100,000 people by the end of 2013.

Correcting for these variations, it is clear that Saskatchewan's population remains unchanged at approximately one million people, with the only discrepancy being the yearly sponsored group of immigrants numbering between 10,000 & 20,000. This immigrant group migrates out of Saskatchewan at a rate of 60% within two years & 90% within five years. Said another way, nine it of ten immigrants leave Saskatchewan within five years. This accounts for the continuing lack of change from Saskatchewan's population of one million. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.114.38.33 (talk) 14:38, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

FYI

Hi Moxy, Hope you feeling better. Saw the recent stressful matter on your talk page.

Wanted to bring something to your attention and ask that you keep an eye out. First, see this back and forth conversation. [1] [2]

Then, see these edits I just made to these articles. [3] [4] [5]

I expect a sock of a recently indefinitely banned editor may emerge, take notice and contest. In fact, I wonder if one may already exist, editing both before and after the ban.

Anyways, please keep an eye out, and keep up the good work as usual. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 05:23, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Mariah

Hi, Moxy. Haven't heard from you in a while at Talk:Mariah Carey, though I'd gotten the impression the two of us had reached the outlines of a reasonable compromise consensus. Since no one else seems to be jumping in after nearly a week, i thought you and I could work out the details. I have to say that so far, in the tradition at Wikipedia at its best, we seem to have been able to work through a good-faith disagreement in overall polite, cordial and collegial discussion. After eight years here, that's still a relief, let me tell you! Let's continue our discussion there, and I hope to hear from you soon. With regards, Tenebrae (talk) 16:42, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Embassy of the Democratic Republic of Congo in Ottawa

I've restored the redirect at this title. Since it came from consensus at an AFD, it's not something that can unilaterally be undone. All of the history remains, though, so if you want some of it merged over, feel free! It's still there. But the redirect should remain. Now, if you think there is a better target for that redirect, you might want to head over to WP:RFD and discuss the matter. If you think the AFD was improperly closed or decided, Deletion Review is thataway. Hope this helps. UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 13:15, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I will bring this up when I have more time.... There was NO consensus for a redirect ...that is clear as day... there is to merger the info ....not blank it.-- Moxy (talk) 15:44, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
When an article is merged into another article, though, the title of the original article is routinely left as a redirect to the newly merged article. Since the entire content of the article is still in the history, there is no reason whatsoever not to redirect now. Put another way, if this article had been deleted outright, I likely would have come by and put in a redirect anyway per WP:BOLD or whatever. It's a reasonable target, and the current title is a reasonable thing to redirect. In any event, even if you're right about the consensus against a redirect (and I don't see that in the debate - quite the opposite), you need to make that case at WP:RFD. UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 18:21, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Collaboration

(Ignore if you don't feel like it, but I encourage reading.) For no help (too late) but support: follow the link on top of my user and sign under "Continued collaboration". Once there, don't miss the link to "peace and reconciliation". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:23, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have not been following that for a bit....am I seeing that the only thing they have done is to propose to ban one editor? WOW its to bad they dont see the big picture and where the problem comes from. -- Moxy (talk) 15:28, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. It got better today, but is not final. I was not exposed to arbcom so far other than watching, and now - involved - find it a questionable system: so much influence given to a few people, I changed the mentioned link: it now takes you to an exemplary discussion of opera's traditional side navbox vs. infobox. The opera's name translates to The Ban on Love. You may like to read the Siegfried discussion, at least it comes with irony, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:59, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I see no one moving in the right direction. For god sacks they have not even mentioned accessibility...something that many were talking about. Simply a waste of time. They seem to not get what the problem really is -- Moxy (talk) 23:47, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You are so right. At least, after proceedings for which kafkaesque is an understatement, the ([https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes/Proposed_decision&diff=571444785&oldid=571431583 case is solved), and we can keep working on understanding, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:38, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I find it very funny that the ones trying to add content over the ones removing content are the ones being talked about the most. Edits like this one are simply odd how does someone that has never edited the page even have the balls to revert the main contributor is beyond me. In fact when i think about it seems like they are following you all over - how do they even know about these edits. Great shame that people involved with content removal and biting our editors fell they are now in the right. I did notice 2 more people leave the projects involved since the talks started - they cant even get along with people in the own projects - the bullying is just nuts. We are loosing our older educated editors because of things like this. -- Moxy (talk) 21:38, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the Barnstar, Moxy

I have a language background and enjoy improving articles. Kgrad (talk) 02:58, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Moxy

Hello I am Calerusnak. I was wondering if you could help complete the Portal:Regina —Preceding undated comment added 22:40, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I can but if will be in a little bit -- Moxy (talk) 22:48, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Calerusnak 17:19, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mariah Carey

Hi, Moxy. It's been five days since the last comment, so we're hoping to hear from you at Talk:Mariah Carey. I like the Joan Crawford treatment you suggested. I also saw this same issue addressed in the lead at Sondra Locke. --Tenebrae (talk) 17:47, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure what to write...was waiting for someone to give an example. -- Moxy (talk) 18:11, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ah. Okey-doke. I'll put something together a la Joan Crawford's in the next day or two and post it on the MC talk page.
BTW, I've been to Montreal, Vancouver, the Canadian side of Niagara Falls and once out in rural land with a gravel road across the border from Maine, driving from there and looping around to come into New York, and I have to say Canada is one of the most beautiful and one of the friendliest and downright civilized places on earth. My dream is to retire to Vancouver someday. Saw the waving flag on this page, and just wanted to say! --Tenebrae (talk) 17:32, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I know — I thought I'd have had time and energy to pull something together by now. I'll try again tonight! --Tenebrae (talk) 18:11, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
First pass done at Talk:Mariah Carey! Let me know what you think. I'll alert the others involved in the discussion as well. --Tenebrae (talk) 23:37, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Moxy. Hope you're hanging in there. When you get a chance, your input on the solution you and I worked on at Talk:Mariah Carey would be valuable, and since it's been a week since other editors (positively) commented, I think we might have created something workable that can be implemented. Let us all know what you think! With regards, Tenebrae (talk) 14:47, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Just wanted to say how much pride I felt in working with you as a fellow veteran editor to create something bigger than the sum of its parts. We transcended differences and developed something that for my money is more comprehensive and encyclopedic than virtually any other source. If there's ever any time you'd like an extra eye on something, or you need help in any way, I am here for you. With great regards, Tenebrae (talk) 21:41, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Calgary

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Thanks for the good words

Other word work to do? Would you specify the URL?

Thanks!

Kgrad (talk) 14:59, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:Calgary

Hi. Do you know why the image for the Calgary portal isn't appearing in the {{Portal}} box? Nothing looks wrong with Template:Portal/Images/Calgary, and it's been too long for server lag. 117Avenue (talk) 06:25, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have no clue .. even asked at Template talk:Portal#New Image but still no reply. -- Moxy (talk) 15:09, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I just looked at it again, and realized, all the portals on Wikipedia:CANWPS that have images are listed on Module:Portal/images, even though they have a Template:Portal/Images/ page. 117Avenue (talk) 23:47, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

additional edit work

I will look into doing both. Thanks for alerting me! Kgrad (talk) 23:59, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

copy editors guild

I don't know what this is. Where can I learn about it? How does one qualify to join? Kgrad (talk) 00:02, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Who is your grandson? I will leave their DOB out of the update. Better yet remove that individuals info yourself rather than INTERFERING with major wiki article cleanups. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nonc01 (talk • contribs) 18:01, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

War of 1812

I am sorry but when I read your most recent Talk page posting and your advocacy of American spelling, I believed that you were making a unilateral change to American spelling as a consequence. I personally am not too concerned what spelling language is used in this article, perhaps Canadian as a mixture of British and American is appropriate. Dabbler (talk) 16:20, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

September 2013

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About Coat of Arms.

Hi. I read your thing about The Arms of Canada about appearing on other languages wiki right? Well at least the other visitors can actually see what the coat of arms is. It represents Canada. Otherwise other users will never know what the Coat of Arms is. I think we should put the one back and stop people from editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noedits123 (talk • contribs) 20:08, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I believe your talking about a copyrighted version. It simply cant be on the main Canada page for some very very odd reasons. -- Moxy (talk) 04:34, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Needing help

Hi Moxy, You may know I've been progressively very ill-- I've had 3 hospitalizations in 4 months. I've had little time for the Wikipedia, and still wouldn't be able to do the following anyway. Do you know how to remove watermarks? Each of the feature photos on the Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young and the photos of each member in their infoboxes bear the great work from the same photographer, as well as their band photo and one more on the Stephen Stills article with one of him and Neil Young. Can you remove those watermarks? If not, can you find someone who does? Please, they are really good photos. --Leahtwosaints (talk) 20:29, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I do not ...but will look into who can for us. Hope your felling better soon. -- Moxy (talk) 04:33, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Moxy

I just had a few idle moments to spare, and would like to tell you how touched I was by this version of your user page [6]. How I wish my own wife and children were as united as your family, all gathered around the family desktop together editing in unison. You are a lucky man. I also note you often edited from the Ottawa university library [7], I knew another editor who did that long ago - what happy memories. I envy you.  Giano  19:59, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I take it your implying you remember my brother that passed away in 2009...yes he was the best of the best and simply one of Wikis most prolific editors. As for my family unity...its not we all sit around and edit...prior to good text to speech technological my wife type for me. My son did edit music articles but has moved on with his own family and just edits every now and then. -- Moxy (talk) 19:39, 11 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have never heard of your brother; I doubt you have either.  Giano  20:00, 11 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You really are an ass hole...if you ever grow the balls to confront someone in-person let me know. Moxy (talk) 20:03, 11 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]


The Special Barnstar
For enduring with remarkable patience this cruel comment on your talk page.Best wishes olive (talk) 21:39, 11 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto the above. Moxy, I am so sorry to see someone being such a dick to you. You don't deserve that — you do good work and you contribute much time and effort to helping make this a better encyclopedia. When I get people like this on my talk page, I just go ahead and delete such horrid posts.--Tenebrae (talk) 22:34, 12 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, Moxy, just don't let the bastards grind you down. You rock!. Miss Bono [zootalk] 12:31, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Good Humor
Just Because! 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 01:02, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Music of the SaGa series

At Talk:Music_of_the_SaGa_series#Collapsed_sections, did you mean to say "impede" (instead of "impend")? --Jax 0677 (talk) 23:16, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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Hi

Hi Moxy, I am new to Wikipedia! is there a way to make someone your friend???anyway, well i'm new BYE!! oh, and feel free to message me...

-thatgirlwholovesmusic34 :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thatgirlswholovesmusic34 (talk • contribs) 00:31, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again

Hey Moxy, How do you add info about yourself like that your against cyber bullying?????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thatgirlswholovesmusic34 (talk • contribs) 00:33, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I talked to this person, they were trying to get in contact with User:Maxie from what I can tell. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 23:55, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

UrbanNerd's socks

Rather than simply marking them on his user page, I might suggest bringing each incarnation up at WP:SPI. Not only could it lead to quicker blocks (especially when he inevitably falls into his habits of attacking or stalking editors), but depending on the potential for collateral damage, the people who work that area might be able start applying range blocks. Resolute 14:43, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

At Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/UrbanNerd/Archive (very bottom) they said they need a range...so I was making a list in hopes that after 8 to 10 IP's we would have enough to do something about it. I have no clue what they mean by a range so was gathering this data since the first 3 IP's seems not to be enough info? -- Moxy (talk) 14:50, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
A range, in this context, is a block of IP addresses available to someone. In the case of a person being dynamically assigned an IP, they would get it from a pool of addresses. For example: 200.200.200.1 to 200.200.200.254. A range block, if enacted, would block all of those addresses. The problem with range blocks though is the risk of collateral damage. Looking at some of the IPs you have tagged, a couple are very small - a range block would only hit about 1,000 addresses. But at least one would affect 256,000 if the entire range is blocked, and that is probably too much. Based on a note User:Hwy43 left on my talk page though, it seems the potential link between him and the blocked sockmaster PhilthyBear is really quite strong. If i get a chance later, I might try to compile some behavioural history between the two (and the latest IPs) and roll it all into an SPI, and possibly a community ban discussion. Resolute 14:16, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
FYI Moxy, a new SPI has been opened. Hwy43 (talk) 20:52, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Good to see we now have enough data to do something ...also great to see the latest IP used already . -- Moxy (talk) 20:55, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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David Gilmour

Hi Moxy. After reading the WP article on Gilmour today, I became concerned by the huge amount of content on the "Equipment" section, which contains some poor English, was difficult to read because of a huge long paragraph, and is also perhaps a violation of copyright and a case of too much non-notable info as per WP:FANCRUFT.

I have just looked at the old "Revision History" of the article and noticed that in March 2012 you (rightly in my opinion) removed a lot of the content. Unfortunately it was later put back again by another editor. Perhaps you might like to have a look at the article and decide if a lot of the content can be trimmed again. In my opinion there's a good case for removing a lot of it, although in my case I only did two relatively minor edits. I divided the huge paragraph into two and removed one non-notable sentence. Kind Tennis Fan (talk) 19:12, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Heritage Minutes from 'See also' sections

Hi Moxy, I noted your deletion of Heritage Minutes from the 'See also' sections of a few articles I posted them to. Perhaps you might reconsider by reviewing the MOS's advice on such links, which do not need to be directly related to the article. The last paragraph on the MOS's 'See also' guideline reads: "...links in the 'See also' section do not need to be directly related to the topic of the article, because one purpose of 'See also' links is to enable readers to explore tangentially related topics."

The aim of adding Heritage Minutes to the 'See also' of the John Cabot, Iroquois, and similar articles is simple. These articles reflect subjects which are or made significant contributions to Canada's history and thus its heritage. They are frequently viewed by readers and students studying those subjects, who may be also interested in related Canadian subjects that are covered in the Minutes. The Minutes article is not solely a listing; it also discusses the Canadian institutions and others and who believe that providing its citizens with context on important historical events amounts to a civic duty. Planning of a significant expansion to the Heritage Minutes is currently underway. I hope you can view the Heritage Minutes link in 'See also' sections as an important useful addition to our readership. Best: HarryZilber (talk) 13:30, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In the future try to incorporate links in the articles over spamming it all over. As for relevant - they are not - they will not help anyone understand the topic at hand....looks like an attempt to up traffic to a page you like. I will be removing more in the future. ---15:07, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
"looks like an attempt to up traffic to a page you like"? That is funny. How many Wikipedians work on pages they aren't interested in? Do you? My contributions are strictly voluntary and unpaid as with most other contributors—I don't work on articles I'm uninterested in— but more to point, adding items to the 'See also' section that contribute to readers knowledge on related topics shouldn't be viewed as a negative. Your view of relevance is different from mine, but it would be mistake to think its superior.
Did you, by chance, review the part of the MOS that reads "...links in the 'See also' section do not need to be directly related to the topic of the article"? It appears not. Whether or not you agree with it, its part of the MOS and should be respected. Best: HarryZilber (talk) 03:48, 4 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
To be honest I can see all the episodes being a good external link over a see also link to the page. Ok I will take the time to source every episode to that you have the external links available to put in external link sections. This would be much more useful to our readers then just a see also link. I would be careful in adding them all at ones as others may see this as site spam...I will also add some as I go. What do you think - good solution - that helps our readers better? -- Moxy (talk) 20:34, 4 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Adding 'External links's to the individual episode pages at Historica.ca would certainly be useful to the reader, however it is unlikely to draw such people into viewing other episodes on similar topics at that website. Nevertheless your efforts in adding such External links will be appreciated. Best: HarryZilber (talk) 04:29, 5 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:U2

Hello, Moxy.

I wanted to ask you if you could make a review for the portal to see if it reach the Featured Portal criteria. Thanks you! Miss Bono [hello, hello!] 13:41, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

new user

Hello, I would really like to know what in specific about the articles are a reason to deem inappropriate? Learning is the first step to changing please tell us what in particular is the problem. He is a young boy who wants to put out his writings for constructive feedback not bashing. He is telling of a fictional business he plans to open as an adult where they will sell his Super Comics. Thanks Purple 16 Worlds (talk) 22:14, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Need to read over WP:FORUM and WP:PROMOTION -- Moxy (talk) 22:17, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GAR

Can we have the GAR over and done with already for Turkish people? The changes in the article has remained static for quite some time. No changes to remove the problems stated in the talk page and the GAR have been made. Proudbolsahye (talk) 04:43, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

question about non-NPOV talkpage comments

Hi, Moxy, I was reporting a problem with a bot, and noticed another complaint on the bot-owner's talkpage, that the bot had deleted their work.

Looking into it, they person complaining was confused... and from what I can tell, it looks like you deleted their talkpage comment (the bot modified their comment to add a datestamp but otherwise left it as-is). At first, I came over to explain that wikipedia allows even extremely unpopular opinions as long as they are not stated in a disruptive manner -- i.e. in a manner which disrupts the process of improving the article. While I can hardly disagree that the comment you deleted was not WP:NPOV, and certainly not *nice*, does that not explicitly apply to only the articles in mainspace? People have comments saying "I like Obama" on their userpages, of course, and I've seen people comment in the talkpages "McCain sucks" or similarly useless things... but I would not delete such a comment, unless it was repeated and thus became disruptive. I guess that maybe having 'McCain sucks' in a wikipedia talkpage could theoretically violate the WP:BLP prohibitions, though in this particular case finding a ton of quite-reliable sources saying *any* given presidential candidate "sucks" is not that hard. Anyways, obviously the person has a chip on their shoulder already; why feed the trolls, right?

Be that as it may, I totally understand if you made a mistake in the heat of the discussion -- I personally just avoid articles on terrorism, because I would undoubtedly get hot under the collar. That said, given that you have so many years under your belt here, maybe I've got the policy wrong. Is it okay to make non-NPOV comments in article talkpages, or at least, okay if they are reasonably rationally put forth, and not simply gibberish? You can answer me here if you like, or stick it on my talkpage so that I get a pingback, but unless you think my explanation was *really* badly botched then prolly slakr the bot-owner does not much care about my question to you here. Thanks for improving wikipedia. p.s. I laughed at this: humans have five fingers[citation needed] Here is the comment-deletion diff: [8] And here is my explanation of mistaken identity over at the bot-owner's page: [9] p.p.s. I was not involved in the discussion, and have not edited with you before, nor Flounder for that matter; I have seen KL7 around, on another bot-talk-page actually. I'm just a neutral observer who stumbled onto Flounder's complaint that slakr-and-his-SineBot were being freedom-of-speech-hypocrites, and looked into the edit-history to see what was up with that. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 21:21, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what your asking here? I dont know User:Flounder. Do you believe something was deleted in error from a year ago on the presay talk page like this? It is possible I made an error somewhere...I am not perfect despite what my wife says LOL. As for policy just best to use your best judgement ...I follow The rules are principles and Reasonability Rule to all that i do. -- Moxy (talk) 22:21, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Moxy, yes, I was asking whether you thought you made a mistake... I could not quite tell what to believe, the issue never seemed quite settled. Since it was just a few days ago, I figured it would still be fresh in your mind. Turns out is was a few calendar days ago in 2012. <sheepish> Anyhoo, if Flounder hasn't gotten over it by now, they probably never will.  :-) KL7 fixed your mistake, if it even *was* a mistake, it's in the grey area, shortly after you took action 373 days ago... which of course is now something like 372 days ago. HOW CAN YOU NOT REMEMBER EVERYTHING YOU EVER DID?  :-) Sigh. Maybe I'll pay attention to what year something happened, next time I have a question? Anyways, carry on, please inform your wife that her spouse's reputation for perfection is still going strong. My own might need some help... or maybe I can blame the eye doctor for this one. Apologies. Thanks for your time, carry on improving wikipedia. See you around. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 23:53, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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I've replied back at Wikipedia:THQ#Two_questions. Thanks for your comment on the article. I've renominated it for GA now that that issue is fixed. --Jakob (Scream about the things I've broken) 01:52, 25 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Geography Portal

Hello Moxy,

I have added (Geo Portal) to Hong Kong article cause Hong kong is belonging to Geography, isn’t it ? If you think my edit was incorrect, please tell me why. I will be happy to talk to you. Thank you alot, --العراقي (talk) 05:59, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have understood what you meant. Thank you alot, --العراقي (talk) 06:48, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Casta discrmination

Yes! Bitch!! I am following the guidelines I'm not trying to paste info all over as you were stating. I was trying to reduce that info and also put it into my own words after you blatantly went out of your way of robbing people of Information that's worth knowing! What's wrong with the information I was writing on that page it obviously has nothing to do with you and all the other Bias Fuckers! here on Wiki who erase, delete, and place unsourced material on here to further the ignorance of our world! This place is just as bad as the idiots with shitty comments on Youtube. My stuff was sourced and it wasn't harming no one and I didn't violate anything like deleting entire articles like the idiot who messed with the Dominant minority article that deleted almost 90-something% of the information and left it as an empty husk with only one measly paragraph! What! are you doing about that! I'll tell you NOTHING!!! You probably just going out of your way not to let our society have access to the information about Casta as you're probably some Latin American Mestizo-Mulatto casta system racial category who targets info like this so that the world doesn't know about this issue! Fuck Off! Wannabe Canadian.

I'll fucking stop because shits like you here on wiki just because you guys know some fancy tricks to control this site believing you have all the control rights of the Admins and act like some fancy police controlling people info without even reviewing it! You people with your fake god complex should become a part government groups that regulate peoples' rights. Fuckers! Going around doing shit! for no reason, but just to fuck with others! If you're not even an admin stop Fucking pretend to be one!

IceBrotherhood (talk) 10:17, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sure

Hey! whoever you are I do have social skills I just chose no to exercise them, I like everyone else has bad days and look you just caught me on one so sorry! if I'm not in the mood to deal with someone barking at me. Profanity filled rants may not get you far, but they are satisfying when your boss fires you and yes my issues are none of your business so no need to respond. Plus profanity filled rants are better than half the junk the internet gets loaded with on a regular basis.

IceBrotherhood (talk) 10:17, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fan spam?

On the Black Sabbath page, I confirmed the existence of a rare recording of Dave Walker performing with Black Sabbath with a source of the original recording available on YouTube. How is this "fan spam"? Don't you think readers would want to know where they could hear such a recording, especially since a few lines down another sentence mentions the lack of any others made by this lineup of the band? Your un-edit seems arbitrary. Please explain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Isles8008 (talk • contribs) 01:03, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not link to copyrighted material from fan sites - please read over WP:YOUTUBE -- Moxy (talk) 04:24, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Pokémon and MOS:TM

Hi Moxy, I noticed your comment about Pokémon on the Quebec Charter of Values RM. I don't think Pokémon can really be said to be a MOS:TM violation. The é in this case does not fall into the categories of "special characters that are not pronounced, are included purely for decoration, or simply substitute for English words." If there were a guy named Joe Blow who stylized his name "Joé Blow," that would be more of a MOS:TM issue. In this case, the diacritic denotes pronunciation (it's not "poke-mon") and is used in most reliable sources. Sure, some sources that don't want to bother writing the diacritic will write "Pokemon," and people will understand it, but it's a very different issue compared to Quebec, whose English and French forms differ solely on the presence or absence of the diacritic. We use the former because we used English, but "Pokemon" isn't an English form. Regards, BDD (talk) 22:34, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

All I have to say is www.pokemon.com- note how they dont use the é in the official website handle as others people do with books Cris Silvestri (2008). Pokemon Ultimate Handbook. Scholastic Inc. ISBN 978-0-545-07886-3. - why because its not on English keyboards. Removing the é from the title would likely get us as the first Google hit n ot the fourth. Its not a big deal to me - juts saying why people dont use non English characters. -- Moxy (talk) 23:27, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:U2 for peer review

Miss Bono and myself have requested a portal peer review for Portal:U2.
We would appreciate any helpful advice at Wikipedia:Portal peer review/U2/archive1.

I would also like to remind all members of WikiProject U2 (and other interested editors) that U2 Live at Red Rocks: Under a Blood Red Sky (talk · edit · hist) has been put up for peer review (PR) by Dream out loud (t · c) on 10 November 2013; see discussion. Any feedback would be much appreciated!

Thanks in advance and happy editing,
pjoef (talk • contribs) 14:25, 16 November 2013 (UTC) [reply]

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Talkback

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Toronto:talk

Thanks for your helpful activity on my image proposal, hopefully more will show up including admins and a decision can be reached.

All the best, Nonc01 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nonc01 (talk • contribs) 20:22, 19 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Official Language

First off apologies for any transgression re edits, I haven't been a heavy Wikipedia user for awhile. Figure this will be easier to separate from the mess of the original discussion:

There's two issues with using the document you cite:

1. Style guides are not a statement of what language is being used, they are how to use the language. Some style guides say use pro-life, some say use anti-abortion. Both are still English, both could be Canadian English. It doesn't separate them from the broader linguistic family.

2. It's the Constitution Act that says English and French are official. If a government publication said that the Federal government had jurisdiction over airports, would we cite that or Section 92 of the Constitution Act 1867?

Again, an official language is just that: The language that is said to be the standard language of a country by the government. Ours are very broad, by intention: Listen to a Quebecker speak French and an Acadian, or someone from Downtown Toronto and someone from outport Newfoundland. 01:20, 21 November 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knoper (talk • contribs)

i agree and is why i am trying to get everyone to actually read it to see the gaga spellings

US protection?

Hello. On the protection request page you said that United States was going to be temporarily fully protected due to edit-warring. But as of right now that has not yet been done....? Cadiomals (talk) 21:31, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

So what to do then?

First I want to apologize about moving and not completed. It was an unintended consequence that I didn't see coming. That said, I am not so sure about the portal itself though. See, the Latin American music task force became WikiProject Latin music because the scope was changed to include music not just from Latin America, but Europe as well (namely Spain and Portugal). At present, we're more of a project focusing on the language and genre rather than a project with a regional scope now. Erick (talk) 08:26, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

We just need to ask an admin to move the pages to the new title. Portla moves are complicated. New title would be fine. -- Moxy (talk) 18:44, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Know anybody I can talk to? Erick (talk) 01:17, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thx

I am not good at this technical gibberish. --MyMoloboaccount (talk) 00:26, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

NP - if you ever need help with anything just let me know. !! -- Moxy (talk) 00:27, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Spoken Wikipedia Request Published

Template:Spoken Wikipedia request fulfilled Alexkillby (talk) 01:58, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Jordan

Hello, how are we supposed to remove infoboxes on this page when all of them are relevant to the article?Hoops gza (talk) 22:40, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Its pretty obvious that achievements should be on the page about achievements like List of career achievements by Michael Jordan and not spammed on the main article that already links the main achievements. Does having 50 templates look like something a GA article would have....I think not. I see by looking at a few other article like Babe Ruth this template spam seems to be a problem in sports. Think I will have to bring this up again....was fixed a few years ago but I see the template spam is back. The propose of templates is to help our readers navigate topics...not to link to every someone what related article like Wayne Gretzky -- Moxy (talk) 22:55, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please let me know if or when you bring this up for discussion.Hoops gza (talk) 23:15, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Still trying to find the old talk where consensus was to have only the main templates on the main bio pages...but not sure if it was B-Ball or some other sport project where is was talked about years ago. Will inform you of any action I will take. On a side note I see the problem of colored links in all templates is still a problem - despite the policy on this being mentioned at WP:B-Ball a few times. Odd people would disguise the main links on those templates - what are people trying to hide there? -- Moxy (talk) 23:27, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:NBA minutes leaders

Revert on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics‎‎

I hope that it is by mistake that you have reverted two of my posts at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics‎‎. You certainly know that this breaks Wikipedia rules. D.Lazard (talk) 18:42, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Very odd.........never seen that page before - not on my watch list. Not sure whats going on there...must have hit a botton by mistake sorry !!! -- Moxy (talk) 18:46, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Victor Bruns

Thank you for support, but please don't take personal support to article talk ;) - Bruns was the friend of a friend, did you know? - this looks not good, to put things in perspective, adding to the many remembered on top of my talk. - Thank you for being here! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:55, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Did not know that very interesting. What happened to Khazar2 ...i cant tell by the talk page. I take it was bullied just to much? Its to bad we have a segment of editors more intersted in conflicts then the project as a whole. -- Moxy (talk) 17:09, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Khazar: he left three times, and my statement is the second, follow the links and see. He has better things to do, so this time I am softer than before although it hurts to let him go, kindness in person, - look for his name on my talk, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:17, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

canadian coat of arms

why did you revert my edit? also if am wrong about this why say "dont mislead our readers" it not really WP:CIVIL Ionchari (talk) 19:46, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

why cant anyone then fix the coa problem? or is the coaless version going to stay here for ever? we cant just leave it like that permanently Ionchari (talk) 19:53, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hello new friend..Sorry was a bit rude...was thinking you were someone else that we have talked to before about this. But your not that person. this version is fake and looks noting like the this real one that we cant use because its held under Canadian Crown Copyright...that protects the Arms of Canada against unauthorized commercial use. -- Moxy (talk) 21:44, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Question re Canada History Portal Template

Hi, Moxy, I posted a question about the Canada History Portal Template over in the talk page for the Canada History Portal; would welcome your comments. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 18:06, 12 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Eugene Forsey

How do you prounouce Eugene Forsey's surname? Is it "For-See" or "For-Zee"? I'm translating this article into Korean. You can take a peak. Komitsuki (talk) 14:38, 16 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Portal inclusion

Why are you removing sports from city portals? These portals cover the whole city, from government, to demographics, to transport, to education, to media, to culture. There is no reason to exclude sports. 117Avenue (talk) 07:06, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Funny you should mention this ...was going to fix them properly so that they match all the others. Will do so next week. So the last 2 will match Portal:Ottawa in the end...like all the others. So will be making one main template so our readers aren't overwhelmed with multiple templates that are just repeating the links. So this will lead to two new templates like Template:Ottawa (that needs the sports stuff added). So basically we need to add things like Calgary Hitmen to the Template:Calgary. Last thing we want is template spam..so lets make them like the others...not mush fixing needed. -- Moxy (talk) 02:47, 21 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
They don't repeat links. 117Avenue (talk) 06:35, 22 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holidays!

Happy Holidays!
Hi, Moxy! Have a happy and safe season, and a blessed new year!
Holiday cheers, --Discographer (talk) 00:41, 25 December 2013 (UTC) [reply]

Why did you just undo my careful edits? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.200.69.23 (talk) 15:47, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Look, I don't even know what references you are talking about, it's quite possible that I copied something over wrong, but if you don't communicate there is no way to figure out where you are coming from. "Eskimo" is definitely not a derogatory term. I understand that it is considered a derogatory term by some people in Canada, and I have not deleted that from the article, I have moved it to its appropriate place. I understand that you have strong feelings about this because you have a Canandian flag on your page. However that does not give you the right to re-write the facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.200.69.23 (talk) 16:07, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year Moxy!

Happy New Year!
Hello Moxy:
Thanks for all of your contributions to improve the encyclopedia for Wikipedia's readers, and have a happy and enjoyable New Year! Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 05:27, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Controversy

Hi, I need to inquiry about your edit on Justin Bieber article; I think this was arbitrary and lacking valid reasons, so this is referred about facts, not suppositions, and reliable sources were also cited. If you could explain me why did you consider it was not an appropriate information to include there, I'd be really pleased. Thanks. - Fma12 (talk) 18:07, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hes in the news every day .. we have no need to list everything he does please take the time and read the links provided on the talk page of the article. -- Moxy (talk) 18:10, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I have read the links and replied to your post, indeed. You can't supress information provided with reliable sources because YOU don't consider it important (because it happened outside the US, maybe?). You are an experienced editor, you know you can't act as if you were the owner of the article. - Fma12 (talk) 18:14, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
We get kids adding things like this everyday to the article. We are not interested in his daily activates like who he spit on or were he smoked a joint....get what I am saying now? -- Moxy (talk) 18:17, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I was not adding trivial facts but issues that caused a big controvery in Argentina (the section title is "controversy" do you remember)?. Supressing edits like you do is simple vandalism so you're not giving me a valid reason to do it. Could you stop reverting my edits, PLEASE ? thanks. - Fma12 (talk) 18:24, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You seem not to understand at all 3 pagaraps about his time in your country is simply to much ... will revert you again till more get involved. -- Moxy (talk) 18:29, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

January 2014

Stop icon
Your recent editing history at Justin Bieber‎ shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. GB fan 18:38, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Trying to get the editor involved to undersand our basic procedure but haveing a problem with this point. Others will revert at this point. -- Moxy (talk) 18:40, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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BOLP

As you usually follow the procedures, I suggest you to leave your feedback on Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Justin_Bieber_redux where this issue is being discussing. Thanks - Fma12 (talk) 12:53, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mexican American

It seems that 68.201.99.145 and I keep going back and forth about Mexican American. Can you put a temporary protection on the page because I am getting tired of arguing with this person and deleting their edits? They keeps putting a gallery of Notable Mexicans even after you and many other users told them not to. I don't want to be blocked from Wikipedia because of this person.

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