Talk:William Shakespeare

Beaumont & Fletcher Navbox

I've created a Navbox -- {{Beaumont and Fletcher canon}} -- which may or may not be appropriate to this page. Shakespeare is of course co-author of 2 extant plays with Fletcher, and apparently 1 (Cardenio) no longer extant. All 3 plays appear in this Navbox. I've already placed this template on Francis Beaumont, John Fletcher, Philip Massinger, and Nathan Field. Shakespeare is next in line, but I prefer to leave this decision up to the editors here. Clearly there's an argument for inclusion, but maybe you've already had "it's too cluttered" or "must be sufficiently germane" discussions that I'm not aware of. If anyone has an opinion on whether the other playwrights should get the navbox too, I'd like to know. I've listed them (at the top of the template) more or less in order of their bulk of contribution to the canon, so all the subsequent authors contributed even less than Shakespeare, but still non-zero. Thanks. Phil wink (talk) 02:36, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 April 2015

77.102.104.199 (talk) 19:45, 19 April 2015 (UTC) William Shakespeare had a great,great and great grandson came to my school. His nickname was BBTT (bentbag and tiptoe)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Jamietw (talk) 20:04, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Unlikely to happen, Jamietw, since Shakespeare had grand-children, but no great-grand-children. 😉- Nunh-huh 20:23, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

And given the name suggested and the generational implausibility (Shakespeare's descendents would be at least seventh-great-grand-children, if not ninth or tenth), we could have just removed the request as vandalism. Ian.thomson (talk) 20:50, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 April 2015

William Shakespeare birthday is the same day he died -April 23 Source : [1] Christine Shenkman (talk) 12:41, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Not done. We don't know that. We only traditionally celebrate his birthday today, even though we can't be sure of the exact day. See the Early life section of the article. Paul B (talk) 12:49, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

New portrait

A new portrait of Shakespeare has been "identified" and according to the source, one of the first directly attributed to him, and possibly ending the enduring question on whether we have an accurate depiction of him. BBC News story. Thought I should get the ball rolling on how this should be approached and integrated. I do think there should be a brief waiting period as sometimes discoveries of these natures come undone after other peers have a chance to review the findings and comment. Mkdw^talk 16:10, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

It should be utterly ignored. It's a ridiculous story. It's just a generic image of a classical horiculturalist. It probably merits a sentence at portraits of Shakespeare. Apparently the discoverer has also identified a new play by W.S., also shortly to be reported in that well known scholarly journal Country Life [2]. Paul B (talk) 17:17, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

> It probably merits a sentence at portraits of Shakespeare.

I don't think it even merits that. Tom Reedy (talk) 17:20, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Then, um, whaddabout adding it to the List of Shakespeare authorship candidates with implicit attribution of the bard's works to the posthumous creativity of Pedanius_Dioscorides? Could any one ping Percy on the Ouija board. He might have more gen on how that might be possible.Nishidani (talk) 19:52, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

IPA Error

Shakespeare's name is given as /ˈʃeɪkspɪər/ which is a pronunciation that exists in no standard of English even phonemically.

This is a clearly a misconversion from the non-IPA phonetic alphabet in the work cited. The person who entered it clearly misunderstood the guide to the English IPA. See the chart here which clearly shows the standards for this sound sequence as RP: ɪə(r) and GenAm ɪr. The "(r)" in the chart for RP only notes a linking r, as this is at the end of a word without a following vowel, the [r] would not be pronounced.

It should be changed to:

RP [ˈʃeɪk.spɪə], GenAm [ˈʃeɪk.spɪr]

The additional dot denotes syllable division which is necessary to disambiguate the pronunciation as shake+speare as opposed to shakes+peare which is pronounced differently.

-Devin Ronis (d.s.ronis) (talk) 08:36, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

I must admit an oversight on my part. I was unable to edit the article before because I was not logged in but assumed it was highly protected, otherwise I wouldn't've left the note. Once logged in, I saw that it was editable, and now that I've attempted to edit the page, I can see that the original markup contains no error. I see IPA misconversion quite regularly from dictionary phonetic systems, but I assumed the work cited was a print edition not a website. It is in IPA and correct on the site and correct in the markup. The issue appears to be some odd conversion taking place somewhere. Wikipedia automatically converts [ɪə] to [ɪər] inexplicably and where such a conversion is made is quite opaque. The error is that of Wikipedia administration, but I am at a loss how to rectify this error. Any guidance on the issue is much appreciated. -Devin Ronis (d.s.ronis) (talk) 09:01, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Sitting?

'Shakespeare's grave, sitting next to Anne Shakespeare, his wife, and...' reads strangely. The word 'sitting' should be omitted. 109.149.208.60 (talk) 11:21, 13 June 2015 (UTC)