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VPN IP Block Exemption Userbox

Hello, I have recently acquired an VPN IP block exemption. Is there a userbox for this, I haven’t been able to find one. If so would someone please make one? I will invest my time for the next day after the custom box is made and I will invest it in editing a topic or article the person chooses if they make me a custom userbox.🙂 SmileyTrek (talk) 03:53, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

SmileyTrek, unfortunately, there is not. Feel free to create one though! Enjoy your stay at the teahouse! Heart ^(talk) 05:34, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

@SmileyTrek: At Wikipedia:Userboxes there is a list of users who will create a userbox if you ask. RudolfRed (talk) 05:57, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

@HeartGlow30797 and RudolfRed: Thank you to both of you (Sorry for two pings I accidentally forgot to log in so I erased my IP signature)! SmileyTrek (talk) 19:01, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

SmileyTrek, you might want to consider suppression so nobody can identify you... edit history is still a thing! Heart ^(talk) 04:45, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

HeartGlow30797 Thank you for the advice! I am new and very much value my privacy, so I will follow your example. SmileyTrek (talk) 20:19, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Excuse my ignorance, what's a userbox? Maryanne Cunningham (talk) 19:58, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

@Maryanne Cunningham:Sure thing! You can find them in Wikipedia:Userboxes, if you look at talk pages they identify things about a user. SmileyTrek (talk) 03:56, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks SmileyTrek Maryanne Cunningham (talk) 19:06, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Gravity acceleration. Question: What readings would be obtained if a gravimeter is theoretically placed 2000 km below the earth surface? Will the mass above it affect the reading?

Gravity acceleration, Will the mass above a gravimeter theoretically placed at 2000 km below the earth surface affect the generally accepted reasoning of a vertical vector acting from that position to the centre of the earth? 197.91.242.132 (talk) 06:39, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi IP 197.91.242.132. While your question sounds interesting, the Teahouse is really a place for asking questions about about Wikipedia editing or other things related to Wikipedia. Try asking your question at Wikipedia:Reference desk and perhaps someone will be able to help you. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:07, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Yes adding every vector for every bit of mass surrounding the gravity sensor will require summing all forces and directions using integral calculus, but yes drilling deep into the Earth will change the gravity measured. The deepest mines ever dug are still less than 4 km deep while the center of the Earth is 6000 km deep Electricmic (talk) 15:17, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, wrong forum for the question, but it's an old favorite of mine, so I really have to say something. I started college life as a physics major. It didn't work out (to say the least), but I did more or less get through fundamental mechanics. And I particularly remember the professor dealing with just this question. He showed us, with integral calculus, that if you're in a hollow sphere, all the gravity from all parts of the sphere adds up to cancel itself out. So in a hollow sphere, you'll experience net zero gravity from the mass of the shell. And if you're inside a solid ball, to figure the gravity you can neglect everything outside the radius you happen to be at.

The professor knew this was counterintuitive, so he paused to let it sink in. And one fellow in the class (who, I suspect, had already decided physics wasn't for him) asked if he'd understood the result correctly. When the professor told him he had, he asked, "Is there a logical reason for that, or does it have something to do with physics?" Uporządnicki (talk) 13:30, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Wikiversity link with lots of math (electric field instead of gravity field, but the math is the same). Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 12:07, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Uploading Government Media

I am a university student currently working on the stub Commercial Radio Australia for a Wikipedia education class. My tutor is Carrolquadrio. I am in the process of uploading media and have found two files on Trove that I would like to upload. The sources are images of articles on the Wireless Telegraphy Act and the Joint Broadcasting Committee. The first work is original work of the Australian Federal Government, and the second is a newspaper article from 1942. I have gone through the Wikimedia Wizard, and there is no option for me to select 'original work of the Australian Federal Government', and as such, the Wizard is "unable to determine whether this file is suitable for Commons". Would someone be able to help me with this? Thanks -- SM9237 (talk) 07:58, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse SM9237. I don't understand why you would want to upload them. If it is only to cite them in references, don't upload them; content on Wikipedia is not a reliable source for references. Cite instead the original act and the original newspaper article. You could link to Trove if you like, but that is not necessary. —teb728 t c 10:35, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi teb728. I'd like to upload these sources as media to support the 'Regulation of commercial radio in Australia' section of my article - as the article is currently lacking in media/images. Could you help me with uploading these to Wikimedia Commons? Thanks -- SM9237 (talk) 21:03, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

OK SM9237. The Wireless Telegraphy Act is {{PD-AustraliaGov}}, and the newspaper article is {{PD-Australia}}. But frankly, if I were an editor on the article, I would oppose their addition. For it sounds to me that your use is just to decorate the article with media/images. They would appear in the article as illegible thumbnails, and at least as far as the newspaper is concerned, even at full resolution it is barely legible on my computer. —teb728 t c 21:58, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

If the 2012 cartoons depicting Muhammad had no copyright, would it be displayed on wikipedia?

This picture: "One cartoon depicted Muhammad as a nude man on all fours with a star covering his anus.[41][42] Another shows Muhammad bending over naked and begging to be admired." Annemaricole (talk) 12:09, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Charlie Hebdo#2012 cartoons depicting Muhammad

@Annemaricole: If you're proposing to add the two cartoons discussed, you have to make sure you have a clear rationale for it according to WP:NFCCP, specifically with #3a: Minimal number of items (there's already a cover above the section) and #8: Contextual significance (do we need to see the two cartoons to understand?) Note that the Wikipedia is not censored, so the sexual nature of the cartoons isn't necessarily a problem. I would suggest going to the talk page and get consensus before adding the images. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 12:34, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

@Ganbaruby:, hi, thanks, WP:censored had what i was looking for! "Wikipedia may contain content that some readers consider objectionable or offensive‍—‌even exceedingly so. Attempting to ensure that articles and images will be acceptable to all readers, or will adhere to general social or religious norms, is incompatible with the purposes of an encyclopedia. " — Preceding unsigned comment added by Annemaricole (talk • contribs) 12:40, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

There's another matter. The heading suggests that the 2012 cartoons have no copyright. But at least under U.S. copyright law, copyright exists in a work the moment it is set down in some fixed form. While registering the work for copyright does bring some advantages, it is only a registration of copyright, creating a legal record of the facts of copyright. It does not create copyright. And while many years ago, notices of copyright were required, that stopped being the case long before 2012. Uporządnicki (talk) 13:55, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

You know, on coming back to this, I realize I've misconstrued the purpose and significance of the heading here. I'm striking out my comment above. Uporządnicki (talk) 20:58, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

What is the criteria for adding a picture to an article?

What is the criteria for adding a picture to an article? I would like to add a picture to Cignature's info box but I've noticed on a lot of articles, the info box pictures are taken by others from afar and are somewhat blurry, instead of being a more professional looking picture taken by people close (both physically and affiliation wise) to the people in the picture. Are more professional pictures not allowed? Hihelloitisi (talk) 17:56, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Hihelloitisi. This area can get very technical, and we would need to know more specifics about the actual image you wanted to add, to fully tailor an answer. Here's some broad rules of thumb: We greatly prefer free images over non-free ("free" referring to copyright ownership); we do allow some images to be used under a claim of fair use, but they must meet the multiple strict requirements of the fair use criteria; with some rare exceptions, images of living people cannot be used here at all under fair use; and fair use images, in order to comply with that doctrine, must be of relatively low resolution.

For these reasons, the only usable images available to us for many subjects are either professional images that have been intentionally reduced in quality, or (especially with respect to living people), photos taken in person by Wikipedia/Wikimedia users, who then agree to release their copyright—either into the public domain or, more commonly, under a suitably-free copyright license (such photos are usually and properly then uploaded to our sister project, the Wikimedia Commons rather than to Wikipedia)—as opposed to the professional produced but non-free images you will see at many other websites. I hope that adequately explains why you may encounter so many pictures here of less than professional quality. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:14, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for all the information Fuhghettaboutit! As for the picture I had this in mind, but now I suppose it would be a problematic choice given the cropped out logo in the bottom right. Hihelloitisi (talk) 21:42, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

I don't think the cropped-out logo is a serious problem. If necessary it can be cropped further. A much bigger concern is the copyright status of the image. Did you take it with your own camera? If not, do you have reason to believe that it is free of copyright restrictions? Maproom (talk) 22:56, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Hihelloitisi FYI, "criteria" is the plural of "criterion." Uporządnicki (talk) 13:35, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

AzseicsoK, seriously you're nitpicking that at Teahouse? The entire point here is to be welcoming to well-intentioned newbies. —valereee (talk) 16:56, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

AzseicsoK, Valereee Agreeing with the above, I'll note that the nitpicked sentence containing "criteria" in the original makes perfect sense in the plural (actually seems more likely that the plural form was intended—after all, I provided multiple rules of thumb in response), so this "correction" may not be one at all.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:13, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Fuhghettaboutit Well, I wasn't going to dispute the nitpicking--since even I can't deny that that's exactly what I was doing. But if it is "criteria," plural, then it should be "What ARE the criteria." Uporządnicki (talk) 00:28, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

A way to tell the Internet Archive to preserve in advance?

Greetings,

so I'm back after a hiatus from Wikipedia. Now I feel motivated to write some new articles (or to actually finish up my old drafts *cough*), but something struck me: Linkrot. I already stumbled over several dead links while trying to improve articles, and not always could I restore them because only some got archived. Now if I write my own articles, they will likely suffer from the same issue at some point!

So my main question is: Can I tell the Internet Archive to actively archive pages I am using for an article? That would make it depend less on luck whether the links remain stable over time. And if yes, can someone point me to how to do this?

Another, minor and unrelated question (should I have made another question entry for that?): I have just fixed some inter-language-links to show up properly ([1]), so it does not give the impression that the article was available in English, and so it properly generates redlinks. That's not the first time I've come across this, and I was wondering if it could be found/fixed automatically maybe? I know several bots are running around here, but I'm not that good on the technical side of things. It just seems like the syntax for these errors is quite clear. If there is a tool to spot these automatically, can someone point me to it?

Syntactically yours, LordPeterII (talk) 15:56, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

LordPeterII, I can give a partial answer and hope that someone more familiar with the project can explain further.

I looked at your sandbox and picked one of the URLs:

hamburg-altona

If you search for that in the Internet archive, you get the following message:

Hrm.

Wayback Machine has not archived that URL.

This page is available on the web!

Help make the Wayback Machine more complete!

Including a button that says "save this URL in the wayback machine"

I assume that clicking that button will archive the site.

However I also checked:

this site

Searching for that in the Internet archive reveals that it has been saved seven times but the most recent one is in 2019. I had hoped to see an option to request a more recent save but I don't see it. S Philbrick(Talk) 16:19, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

@LordPeterII: IA has a bot that watches Wikipedia's recent changes and automatically archives any external links (and refs) it finds, but that happens only with changes to pages in the article (main) namespace, not drafts, user pages, etc.. The link to take a new snapshot of an already-archived page, as described at Wikipedia:Citing sources/Further considerations#Internet Archive, is https://web.archive.org/save/https://agora.sub.uni-hamburg.de//subhh/digbib/view?did=c1:50943&sdid=c1:50967 in Sphilbrick's example, which I clicked on and got this archive (after a server error on the first try).

The WP:IABOT deadlink-fixing tool has an option to add archive info to all refs on a page (even those that are not yet dead), which could be run on a draft if you're worried about linkrot taking hold before it's moved to mainspace. On the History page, at the end of the list of "External tools:" near the top, there is a "Fix dead links" link to run it. Check the "Add archives to all non-dead references (Optional)". —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 21:53, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

I just thought I would also point out that there are archive.org extensions for both Firefox and Chrome (and perhaps other browsers as well, but I have not verified that). These extensions allow you to instantly archive the current version of any web page with a couple of mouse clicks if you feel that it may quickly change or become inaccessible. CThomas³ (talk) 07:49, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks y'all! Guess my fears were unnecessary. That all mainspace articles get archived is good to know, and I guess most dead links I came across were from old articles before the advent of modern bots. Since my drafts tend to be quite extensive and include lots of references for a long time until I finish them, I will check out the options to archive them ahead of time, lest they are gone by the time the draft gets moved to mainspace. It seems there are several options available for that. So yeah, thanks again! --LordPeterII (talk) 09:42, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

How to become a wrighter

I was wonder how do I become a wrighter on here? 73.121.66.34 (talk) 21:02, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello IP editor. Learning to edit is like learning to walk as a baby, or to drive as an adult. Take slow, careful steps is the best way to avoid bumping in to things. Base everything you add on reliable sources (citations) and listen to the advice of more experienced editors. Ensuring you can spell correctly is helpful, but not essential. Remember, this is an encyclopaedia, not a creative writing place, so keep the tone neutral, unbiased and informative. See Help:Introduction to get you started. Maybe also take our interactive tour at The Wikipedia Adventure. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 21:16, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Consider creating an account for yourself, as in the past the IP address you are using was used to vandalize articles (presumably not you, but someone else). David notMD (talk) 21:54, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

As a detail, you might consider paying attention to the squiggly red line that might appear under some words you "write." For example, the word "wrighter." That line might be trying to tell you something important. Uporządnicki (talk) 15:26, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Student had material removed

Hi, I am a student in an education program and have added a template to that effect on my talk page. I added a lot of material to a stub I had chosen and I don’t understand why so much of it was removed by an editor.

Are you able to help me understand so that I can add the information back and not have it removed? Thanks. --Allenthetalon (talk) 03:56, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Allenthetalon. After looking at your contributions history, it appears the stub you're talk about is I Loves You, Porgy. If you look at that article's page history, you should see that most of the content you added wseems to have been removed by two editors: Michael Bednarek and EddieHugh. Each of them left an edit summary when they made their edits, but feel free to post something on Talk:I Loves You, Porgy if you'd like further clarification regarding their edits.

It can sometimes be a bit of a shock when you add content to an article and then see it removed by others, but that's kind of how Wikipedia works sometimes; when this happens, often the best thing to do is to look for edit summaries in the page's history which might explain why. If you don't find any such edit summaries or do find them but don't understand them, then it's perfectly OK to ask for clarification on the article's talk page.

Sometimes the changes made were ones previously discussed before and a WP:CONSENSUS was established against making them; others times the content added might not be in accordance with some Wikipedia policy or guideline and was reverted or revised accordingly. In some cases, the change might not be considered and improvement in terms of style or flow and doesn't really fit with the other content in the article. Michael Bednarek and EddieHugh are both experienced editors and they'd probably be happy to further clarify the "problems" they found with your additions if you just ask them. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:20, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

@R stasey: Allenthetalon is one of your students? Please help Allenthetalon with this. Fransplace (talk) 22:49, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

San Francisco Bay article

Hello Teahouse hosts. While perusing through Wikipedia for things related to New Albion, Sir Francis Drake, and Sebastião Rodrigues Soromenho, I came across the San Francisco Bay Area article. I immediately saw that it had egregious errors which I corrected. In the history, I see that these were not the first such errors. Considering this, I wonder about the reliability of the rest of the article. Furthermore, not all the links to references work. This is rated as a Good Article. I'm not sure it deserves that rating and wonder, other than asking on the talk page, how to address this. It seems an important article as it regularly exceeds 1500 views a day. That is many people who have received erroneous information presented in a highly rated article. Your thoughts? Kind regards.Hu Nhu (talk) 04:09, 12 November 2020 (UTC) Hu Nhu (talk) 04:09, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

It's possible a fair chunk of those links have rotted and should be replaced. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 04:49, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

@Hu Nhu:, @Jéské Couriano:, I visited the San Francisco Bay Area article, and "rescued"/archived 201 out of 292 references. I did notice that some of the refs had already been archived, before I did this. I hope this is helpful. Hu Nhu, if you cannot access the original ref, click on the "archived" link for the ref. For me, it takes longer to load the archived link, but usually the info is there. Best, Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 06:12, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

I appreciate your thoughtful comments and kind attention.Hu Nhu (talk) 15:59, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Adding a blog as an external Link.

Good Morning,

I am a newbie and need help. Thanks in advance.

I blog travelogues and book reviews at https://suchetagautham.blogspot.com. This is my personal blog.

I would like to add the below as an external reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turuvekere https://suchetagautham.blogspot.com/2020/09/a-sightseeing-trip-to-turuvekere-meets.html

Can I?

Thanks, Sucheta Sucheta Gautham (talk) 08:00, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Well, no. We don't add blog entries to articles. I don't mean this as a criticism of your blog entry: it's not "encyclopedic" writing (and of course isn't intended to be); but in its own way it's a lot better than is the Wikipedia article in its way. If you'd like to improve the current article, and can do so from reliable, independent, published sources -- independent both of commercial interests and of your own interests -- then you'd be very welcome to do so. Indeed, it would be very easy to improve this article: I could make sweeping and beneficial changes in just twenty minutes; however, I'll leave this enjoyable project to you. -- Hoary (talk) 09:53, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Greetings Sucheta Gautham. First off, I must commend you for actually asking first instead of just doing it! This is imo already a tremendous step towards being a good Wikipedia author :)

However, Hoary is right: Blogs are not acceptable sources, excepts in very rare cases. There is a consensus policy about this which you can e.g. read about here. Using blogs is especially forbidden when writing about people, as stated here. Another problem - even with a well-researched blog - is that it is always a personal opinion of someone, which can easily violate an article's neutral point of view. So, better not do it and instead look for other sources: Since you are familiar with the area, you could probably easily find some from e.g. local news. And as Hoary stated, you can already do a lot by just correcting and improving on existing content in the article. Good luck! --LordPeterII (talk) 10:31, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

@Hoary and LordPeterII: Just going by the section heading the OP chose, I think they might be asking whether they could add their blog to the article’s “External links” section and not whether they can cite their blog as a reliable source.

@Sucheta Gautham: If my understanding of your question is correct, then I think you’d like to add a link to your blog to the article as an external link. If that’s the case, then the relevant guideline is Wikipedia:External links, in particular the section titled “Links normally to be avoided”. I don’t think such a thing would be allowed per item 11 of that section, unless your blog is something recognized as an authoritative account of things happening in Turuvekere and would be seen as having encyclopedic value to Wikipedia readers. — Marchjuly (talk) 11:03, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

User Anonymasmeehaa

User Anonymasmeehaa is visibly vandalizing and I can't question if she isn't check her contributions Wikipidean's Creed (talk) 08:32, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Checked that, but it appears like this is a good-faith-user. The two edits are two days old. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 08:48, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

source

When to remove a source that is a press release? Thanks. AlphonseOop (talk) 10:11, 12 November 2020 (UTC) AlphonseOop (talk) 10:11, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

AlphonseOop, you mean a press release link that is already dead? You can probably try finding archives of it. If you have another source better than the press release, feel free to change it, but as far as I'm concerned, press releases are fine. GeraldWL 10:38, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Gerald Waldo Luis, that's not really correct. A press release is an affiliated source, which can be an appropriate source for adding noncontroversial detail to an article -- the date a corporation announced whatever the press release was announcing, say -- but it's not sufficient for proving notability, showing noteworthiness, or proving anything that could possibly be considered contentious. If there's an unaffiliated reliable source for the same information, in general it's best to use that and remove the press release altogether. —valereee (talk) 16:35, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Valeree, I'm talking about citing presses in a regular article— that is, an article that has proven its notability via reliable independent sources. If you wanna make an article out of just presses, then yes, presses don't show notability. GeraldWL 01:00, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Gerald Waldo Luis, it also doesn't prove noteworthiness -- whether the information should even be in the article. A press release announcing P&G's newest global initiative isn't good enough support for us to include a mention of that initiative in Procter & Gamble. We'd need an unaffiliated RS talking about it. If we have that, we probably don't need the press release except to provide trivial detail such as the exact date of the announcement. If no unaffiliated RS is talking about it, the press release is pure corporate promotion. So no, in general, information in an article that is cited to a press release at minimum should be tagged as better source needed, and if it's the only support for an assertion that is even slightly iffy, the content probably needs to go. —valereee (talk) 12:30, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Valeree, there are emergency times when a press release is needed, to support a claim until a reliable source can be found. If an airline went bankrupt and the only source available is a press release, there's no way we keep pretending like it is still alive. Then when an RS talks bout it, we can replace it and maybe add more info. Also knowing that there is Template:Cite press release, in a nutshell, press releases are allowed. GeraldWL 12:45, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Lost Draft Article

Hi community! I was finishing writting an article and I can't find it anymore. Is it possible to retrieve or do I just have to start from start again? Elisadesapinto (talk) 10:34, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Elisadesapinto, you can find your contributions here. Are you referring to this? It doesn't seem to have any content, though. GeraldWL 10:36, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Elisadesapinto Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. In looking at your contribution history I see no edits to any draft article- other than the aformentioned sandbox edit. It's possible you might have edited while logged out in which case it would be a part of your IP address' contribution history. That's all I can say without knowing the title of the draft or article. 331dot (talk) 10:37, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

331dot Thank you for your help! I must have been logged out, yes. The name of is Draft:Bibi Smit, it was almost finalized. How can I retrieve it using my ip address? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elisadesapinto (talk • contribs) 10:39, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Elisadesapinto, I tried searching "Draft:Bibi Smit," "Bibi Smit," and "Bibi Smith" in Wikipedia and Deletionpedia], there's none. Is it on the other language Wikipedia? GeraldWL 10:44, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

In examining Draft:Bibi Smit and Bibi Smit I see no indication that any such draft or article was ever edited(be it deleted or otherwise). Is is possible that you did not click "publish changes" to save the draft? 331dot (talk) 10:44, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I didn't click on "publish changes". Well thanks for the help! I will start again (: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elisadesapinto (talk • contribs) 10:48, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Elisadesapinto I'm not sure if you are aware, but "publish changes" should be interpreted to mean "save changes". It does not mean "publish this to the encyclopedia". It used to say "save changes" but was changed for legal reasons, to emphasize that anything saved is potentially visible to the public. 331dot (talk) 10:50, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

331dot Thanks for the help!

shortest comments about lemma 3.3 of Harvey's arxiv:2010.05450v1 deleted.

I have written a very short (and very easy) maths proof about some absurd prime factoring algorithms recently proposed in arxiv.org, in order to show how absurd they are in the 'factorization' talk page so i can enlighten the wikipedia editors and wikipedia readers, which was deleted in the same day.

Can I just re-edit it? Or could some editor kindly merge it somewhere. Does it violate any policies if I did? It's a very short and very simple 10 line proof. My only purpose is enlightenment about facts. You have the right to know simple and basic scientific facts. Unfortunately, my naive impression is that the wikipedia community really hates facts from the bottom. Aquahabitant (talk) 10:51, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

You inserted your original research into the Talk page of an article: Talk:Factorization. Original research has no place in articles, nor in Talk pages of articles. Hence, deleted. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a compendium of facts. ArXiv.org is not peer-reviewed, so even if your proof was published there, that would not be considered a reliable source for a draft of a Wikipedia article about the proof. David notMD (talk) 11:41, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Confusion about relevance of topic information

Hey guys, I'm currently editing the stub and i am confused as to whether the title of the stub "Europe, the Middle East and Africa" relates broadly to the continents and their relationship with one another (that is, anything on the continents can be included in the article) or whether it is confined to "EMEA" (industry specific term). Can someone please give me some direction? Mazz2129 (talk) 10:57, 12 November 2020 (UTC) Mazz2129 (talk) 10:57, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

I have removed the stub classification.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 12:42, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Greetings Mazz2129, yeah, I'm afraid you indeed confused the topic: As far as I see, the article is supposed to be just about the term "EMEA" and anything related to it, and not the continents in general. Just adding information (even though properly researched and cited!) to it does not automatically improve a stub. I would like to hear the opinion of more veteran editors on this, but imo only stuff related to "EMEA" makes sense here, and thus the article would need to be substantially trimmed back again. Sorry! (jyi @Shantavira, I believe this wasn't about stub status, but about article scope) --LordPeterII (talk) 12:47, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

@Mazz2129: I agree. We certainly have plenty of coverage in more specific articles about Europe, Middle East, and Africa, and even more specific articles, like History of Europe, Early Middle Ages, Fall of the Western Roman Empire, etc.. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 02:06, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

customization

How do I add a search box to my home page. Used to have one (associated with my login, of course). Mrreed1939 (talk) 13:00, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Mrreed1939. A search box for what, exactly? Every single page here has a "Search Wikipedia" box at the top of it. Unless I'm missing something blindingly obvious, I think you'll need to be a lot more specific if you want a better answer from us, sorry. That said, there are user scripts you can add to enhance search functions. Maybe that's what you mean? See this page. Nick Moyes (talk) 13:11, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

(Just yfi: There was an off-topic post by me here, which I removed. It seems to have been an error because I used the "new question" button, but it did appear here instead.) --LordPeterII (talk) 13:28, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

"Every single page here has a "Search Wikipedia" box at the top of it." Not true. There is a clickable "Search" icon on my home page (as well as many other pages), but not a text box to enter the search criteria. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrreed1939 (talk • contribs) 14:06, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Note: Browser-specific startpages, usally with URL's like about:newtab, about:home, chrome:///start, chrome:///home may or may not have full implementation of Wikipedia's search service. We cannot do anything about that, since they are browser-speecific and on top of that intentionally protected by the respective browsers. Victor Schmidt (talk) 14:18, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

@Mrreed1939: I think Victor Schmidt is spot on. The only time I see only the search icon (a magnifying glass) is when I'm in mobile view on old iPhone. But when I tap it, the search box opens OK for me to type in my search strings. Perhaps you would care to tell us a little bit more about your system setup, and whether you are using an app to access Wikipedia, or simply using your browser like most people do? Turning off all browser extensions might also be something you could try (or even changing 'skins' in your Preferences settings. But it sounds like the problem your describe doesn't seem to be one caused directly by Wikipedia, but more by your own individual setup. Without knowing more, I doubt we can help you further. Thanks Nick Moyes (talk) 15:11, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

2 Questions: Need escape character for "upright stroke", and tricky date problem for a BLP

Howdy, so I've two quick questions: First off, I have the character "|" (not capital i, but this upright stroke thingy) in a source's title. For obvious reasons, I can't include it in my reference under "|title=", but I can't find any escape characters to allow it to display anyway. I could certainly also change the title, but I'd prefer to keep it original as otherwise I'd be changing information for no good reason.

Second, I am trying to write my first living person biography atm (about d:Q1594966), and am looking at her birth date: This is tricky, because it is quoted as being "10 May 1975" in Wikidata imported from 3 (!) different sources, although some of them don't seem to be very authoritative. A precise look, however, yields that the most authoritative of these sources only states the year, 1975, and not the month and date (as would be assumed from the wikidata entry). Much worse yet, her OWN website states that she was born "May 1969" - why would she lie about her own age, especially if it makes her 6 years older? The German Wikipedia article for her also states "10 May 1969" - but referencing it from her website, which does NOT state the day, only the month! So... what am I supposed to do here? Don't wanna mess up a WP:BLP here...

So, if I would go by the date that makes most sense to me, "May 1969", I could still not use {{birth date and age}} because I lack the day in infobox person, and omitting the month to be able to use {{birth year and age}} feels like omitting information for no good reason. Is there any way to display only month and year? LordPeterII (talk) 13:26, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi, LordPeterII. For the first question, see Template:pipe (with various alternative names). --ColinFine (talk) 13:32, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

For BLP, it is standard practice to only have month and year, so use | birth_date = {{birth year and age|1969|5}} in this case, assuming that's the age you wish to show. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:59, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Indeed, that both works! And was quite simple, so thanks! I'm still slightly confused about Wikidata being wrong, but eh, I'm editing Wikipedia after all. --LordPeterII (talk) 14:54, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Wars and battles

How can I edit pages about war or battle? I don't know how to add a flag or name of country a lot. JoeBidenfan (talk) 15:36, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Is this a template?

So, I've been working with the article "Matthew Kulke" which has quite a few problems, one of the biggest ones being there are zero references. I know there has to be a under referenced or no reference template but I'm not sure where to find it. SnazzyInfinity (talk) Special:Contributions/SnazzyInfinity 15:50, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

SnazzyInfinity I've added it from Twinkle tag option Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:17, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks SnazzyInfinity (talk) Special:Contributions/SnazzyInfinity 16:19, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Does this count as an orphan?

So I was clicking through "random article" and stumbled upon Lida Fleitmann Bloodgood, which I believe may be an orphan. Apart from the redirects and my sandbox, the only page that links to it is Piping Rock Club which uses it in one of the references, does this count? SnazzyInfinity (talk) Special:Contributions/SnazzyInfinity 16:02, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the stumble. I've proposed the article for deletion as it does not appear to be a notable topic. It should be gone in a week. Mathglot (talk) 02:01, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Copy Edit

What is a copy edit? And how do you create a data box on the right of an article (the gray box that has facts)? Wikiboss4065 (talk) 16:07, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Wikiboss4065 A copy edit is when someone goes through an article fixing spelling, grammar, punctuation and style issues. The easiest way to do an infobox is to find an existing article with the relevant infobox and change the data Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:20, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Jimfbleak Thanks! Wikiboss4065 - talk to me? 16:27, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Need help making an edit to a page

Hello wikipedia world! I am trying to edit Nikema Williams' page and change her photo for her. I know I have to make 10 edits and wait 4 days before I become authorized, but it has proven difficult. What is the easiest way to get a new image uploaded for her page? Thanks! Ivyreynoldss (talk) 16:12, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

convenience link: Nikema Williams —valereee (talk) 16:20, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Ms. Reynolds, it looks like you have an association with Ms. Williams? It's best if you don't edit the article directly, as Wikipedia considers that a conflict of interest. What you can do is upload a free-use file at Wikimedia Commons, then at the Nikima Williams talk page, make an edit request. —valereee (talk) 16:23, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Forgot to ping Ivyreynoldss —valereee (talk) 16:26, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict)@Ivyreynoldss: Sure. First, declare your paid status on your user page. See WP:PAID. (See WP:COI if you are an unpaid volunteer). Then, take a picture of the subject. The photographer (you) are the copyright owner of a picture and can therefore licence the picture under CC-BY-SA. Then, go to Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard and follow the instructions to upload your picture to Commons. finally, go to Talk:Nikema Williams to ask that someone add the picture to the article. Use {{request edit}} to attract the attention of an editor to do this. -Arch dude (talk) 18:30, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Source reliability

I am attending to the history section of the San Francisco Bay Area article and wonder if this [2] HERE is a reliable source. I've read through wp:reliable and lack confidence that this source should be considered reliable. I look forward to hearing from you.Hu Nhu (talk) 16:24, 12 November 2020 (UTC) Hu Nhu (talk) 16:24, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

@Hu Nhu: I agree with you. The "Moraga Explores the Valley", although likely an accurate precise of the Gabriel Moraga Expedition of 1806, is not Wikipedia reliable.

The book "The Gabriel Moraga Expedition Of 1806: The Diary Of Fray Pedro Munoz" would be more appropriate for a reference.

There is a journal article that might be more accessible: "The Gabriel Moraga Expedition of 1806: The Diary of Fray Pedro Muñoz". It is a journal article in the Hunting Library Quarterly. It uses as its primary source, Fray Pedro Munoz's actual written account. It can found at"

https://www.jstor.org/stable/3816007?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents.

Here is the cite for the journal article:

Muñoz, Fray Pedro, et al. “The Gabriel Moraga Expedition of 1806: The Diary of Fray Pedro Muñoz.” Huntington Library Quarterly, vol. 9, no. 3, 1946, pp. 223–248. JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/3816007. Accessed 12 Nov. 2020.

You can read it free by creating an account with Jstor (it doesn't cost anything to create the Jstor account).

It seems that this discussion should be on the talk page for the San Francisco Bay Area article. I will copy this section there for the record.

Osomite ^hablemos 22:13, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Outstanding and excellent. I do have a JSTOR account and will look at it. Thank you for your kind attention.Hu Nhu (talk) 22:20, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

How many Wikipedias are there

How many — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.169.10.33 (talk) 17:58, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

If you're asking how many "wikipedias" there are, there is only one, and you're on it. If you're asking how many pages there are, as of September 2020, there are 6 160 988 articles. Nolanisntfunny (talk) 18:02, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

There are currently 314 language editions of Wikipedia. Please see List of Wikipedias.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 18:05, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Soundtracks to video games

Hi. I just wrote and made the whole soundtrack for the page on Skate 3. My question is, should I do it for more video games? It does take quite a while to do, and I don't just want to spend an hour or so doing it and then, 15 minutes later, get it removed for "being an excessive dump of information". Thanks! Nolanisntfunny (talk) 18:00, 12 November 2020 (UTC) Nolanisntfunny (talk) 18:00, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Nolanisntfunny. No, in my opinion that isn't appropriate unless there has been indepdendent discussion of the soundtractk: see WP:INDISCRIMINATE. --ColinFine (talk) 22:35, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Just a quick editing question, Nolanisntfunny. Shouldn't it say: "consists of" and not "consisted of"? Nothing is past tense when it still is in existence. Actually, does the sentence even need to be included? It's pretty self-evident that these are the titles that consist of the soundtrack. Even albums do not have this preface. Maineartists (talk) 22:45, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

First up, thanks Maineartists , I have fixed that. Second up, ColinFine , could you explain that to me a little clearer? WP:INDISCRIMINATE seems vague to me. I also don't see why there needs to be independant articles on it's soundtrack... there are millions of independant articles on Skate 3 and the soundtrack of Skate 3 is a direct part of Skate 3. Besides, it's got TONS of notable groups in it, such as Pixies, Joy Division, Johnny Thunders, etc. I'll keep it for now unless I get a few more opinions on it... that was a pain in the ass to do, and I don't want to doink it quite yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nolanisntfunny (talk • contribs) 01:17, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

@Nolanisntfunny: Not commenting on whether it should be in the article or not, but please please see RWBY#Volume 1 Soundtrack and Assassin's Creed (video game)#Music for examples of how other game articles format soundtrack listings using {{Track listing}}. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 02:54, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Please help me in solving this problem about updating this article (Sasha Banks)

I sent many times edit requests (as the page is semi protected) to add this missing parts to the article (In the first part of the page that mentions the summary & the highlights of her career , it ends with In February 2019, she won the inaugural WWE Women's Tag Team Championship with her former tag team partner, Bayley (then known as The Boss 'n' Hug Connection), at the Elimination Chamber pay-per-view , an update is needed & that's to add after her inaugral Tag Team Championship win in 2019 that she won the Smackdown Women's Championship at Hell in a Cell 2020 & that made her a triple crown & grand slam champion & also it doesn't mention her total number of Women's Championship reigns (in both singles (7) & tag (2)), also this part of the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasha_Banks#External_links includes the following part Links to related articles that includes many lists (WWE personnel , WWE Raw Women's Champions , WWE Women's Tag Team Champions , NXT Women's Champions , Grand Slam and Triple Crown champions) but missing this list (WWE SmackDown Women's Champions) that is added in all of the former champions pages & not added to the aforementioned lists in this part of her page despite her being the current champion & here is the link of this missed list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WWE_SmackDown_Women%27s_Champions#External_links) instead of adding this missing parts they answer me with the same reply each time it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate , as you see that what I mentioned above is so obvious & it doesn't always have to be to correct something wrong in the article (x) to(y), in some cases what is needed is to add important missing information to the appropriate parts of the article for the article to be complete & I provided them with a reliable source but they ignore it https://www.wwe.com/superstars/sasha-banks 197.46.25.114 (talk) 19:38, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

This same question is posted to the help desk. Please don't post questions in more than one place. RudolfRed (talk) 20:02, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Article ready for revision

Rookie question: I just finished writing the article Draft:Bibi Smit and want to submit it for revision. How do I submit it? Any help would be great. Thanks in advance! Elisadesapinto (talk) 20:46, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Elisadesapinto. Simply post this: {{subst:submit}} to the top of the page and save (click the Publish changes button). Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:10, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Adding a date

I'm trying to use the Cite book template. The original date was in the 9th century (AD). I've looked at all the guidance on dates I can find, but can't see how to insert Ninth century/9th century without incurring an error. Grateful for any guidance. Thanks Maryanne Cunningham (talk) 22:47, 12 November 2020 (UTC) Maryanne Cunningham (talk) 22:47, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Maryanne Cunningham. As far as I can tell, the date= parameter in cite book will work with a simple year, e.g., 895, or if the year is approximate "c. 895", the same appears true of the year= parameter. AD is assumed, as default. For "years before 100 AD, including BCE/BC dates. Try using parameter |orig-date=" instead." For further information (where that quote is from), please see Help:CS1 errors#bad date. If that doesn't help, can you advise exactly which date-insertion parameter(s) you have tried in the cite book template, and what exact text you want to insert? Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:47, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

This citation: <ref>{{cite book |title=Ye Ancient Book |author=Very Old Author |date=c. 895}}</ref> generates this reference, as seen below. Mathglot (talk) 01:36, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

References

Indians in Bhutan

Hello Everybody My Name is Adarsh Anshuman and I created a article regarding Indians in Bhutan, I have a reference with regard to all the claims I have made, I have accessed the UN Official Data for Immigrants in Bhutan, but unfortunately I could not add It, because I am not that good in adding reference links. So could somebody please add a reference. UN Migrant Stock by Origin and Destination. Could somebody also please edit my page and add 7.0% as the total population of Indian Immigrants in Bhutan. I will be glad If somebody can add these references and the 7.0% total population figure, so that my page can have a decent reference and my page can be approved. With Regards Adarsh Anshuman. Adarsh3695 (talk) 00:10, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

@Adarsh Anshuman: You appear to be speaking about Draft:Indians in Bhutan. Please read Help:Footnotes, and try to come up with three sources for your Draft. I'll also add a note to the Talk page. Good luck, Mathglot (talk) 00:21, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

What pages do you mostly edit?

What pages do you mostly edit? Bedant Dahal (talk) 02:08, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Teahouse questions are answered by a bunch of volunteers ("Hosts") who also edit articles. What they choose to edit is up to them David notMD (talk) 03:16, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Reliable source

Hi wikipedians! Is macrotrends.net a reliable source? Just asking, thanks ~ Azpineapple (talk) 05:00, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Apparently not. See this discussion. -- Hoary (talk) 05:46, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Republic TV

Please visit [3]. I wished to know how the process would work. Will it be an admin who evaluates the result and add it to Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources, or should I do something on the topic, rather than just join the discussion.--Atlantis77177 (talk) 06:14, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

It's not a matter that requires one or more administrators. An experienced and respected non-administrator is just as able to conclude the discussion (or attempt to) as an administrator. But RSN discussions typically don't have clear conclusions. (Yes, there can be clear conclusions; but it doesn't seem that the discussion is close to that yet.) I'd urge you not to attempt to close the discussion. (Also, avoid boldface: it comes off like shouting, and makes people less likely to take seriously the text or writer that uses it.) -- Hoary (talk) 06:59, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Justin Picard

Would any reviewers be willing to take a look at the draft above? I'm aware that there is currently a heavy backlog of submissions, but the draft has been pending review now for over 3 months. The subject pertains to WP:ACAD, WP:CH, WP:CA and WP:BIZ. Davykamanzi → talk • contribs • alter ego 07:10, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

What is Life Style ?

What does it mean Life Style ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifestyle My understanding is Life style Is a personal choice forming the tendency to adapt a collective of habits and trends which form different pattern of living. Mish2022 (talk) 07:32, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

@Mish2022: That is just one meaning of the word (see Lifestyle (sociology)). The page you linked to functions to disambiguate articles with similar-sounding titles or content. Nick Moyes (talk) 08:10, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Ok I understood thanks for help (Mish2022 (talk) 11:02, 13 November 2020 (UTC))(Mish2022 (talk) 11:00, 13 November 2020 (UTC)) (Mish2022 (talk) 10:59, 13 November 2020 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mish2022 (talk • contribs) 08:21, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

@Mish2022: As you can see by the above, your signature (four tildes: ~~~~) needs to be the very last thing in your post in order to be recognized as a signature. Please don't follow it with a parenthesis or anything else. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 05:51, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Latest stable software release templates

Why the most software versions in category are not updated to the last versions? It is not best solution to centralize all versions on Wikidata?--2001:B07:6442:8903:A023:1C60:6E70:6DE8 (talk) 09:14, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

I just created my first article- feedback please?

Hello, I just created a Wikipedia page for Umm Al Emarat Park, it should be available here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umm_Al_Emarat_park

I'm not sure if it's good enough or if there's something I should change, I'm looking for some guidance from more seasoned editors to tell me if I did alright. Thank you for your time. BetweenCupsOfTea (talk) 09:18, 13 November 2020 (UTC)  BetweenCupsOfTea (talk) 09:16, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy: Currently Umm Al Emarat park. Article name should be changed to Umm Al Emarat Park. David notMD (talk) 09:22, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

David_notMD what do you mean? Like, how is that different from what I linked to? Also, any comments? BetweenCupsOfTea (talk) 09:35, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to The Teahouse. Wikipedia is written in a dry neutral tone, so content like "It has been described as an outdoor classroom, a place to rediscover leisure and wellness, a calming space to unplug from the city and reconnect with nature, and above all, a meeting place for family and friends" and "one of the oldest and largest urban parks" is unsourced and promotional so I have removed it. Theroadislong (talk) 10:24, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

The word "park" is capitalized in your first sentence, so the Wikilink did not work when I commented. Hence my providing a correct Wikilink. However, an editor has since changed the article title to "Park." David notMD (talk) 14:23, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

article help

My article was recently declined on grounds that it doesnt meet the wikipedia notability guides, however I used external independent sources and wrote factually - so I'm unsure what to do in order to improve/resubmit Nlm94 (talk) 09:59, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for asking this question at the Teahouse, Nlm94. Whilst nobody doubts that the club you're writing about at Draft:Kensington Dragons Football Club actually exists, the problem you face is that it does not look sufficiently notable to merit having an article here. Wikipedia is not a place to promote minor clubs and societies' so, until such times as it is written about in detail and in depth by independent sources, the reality is that it won't be approved for mainspace. I realise this will be a disappointment for you, but unless you can find better and more detailed sources, you would be wasting your time trying to improve it in other ways. Are there not other topics of note here that you could contribute to instead? For a complete newcomer to create a new article here is really difficult, especially as creating any new page is one of the hardest tasks any editor can do. The Wikipedia Adventure is a good place for a new editor to get an overview of how things work here. See also WP:NSPORTS and WP:NCORP for guidance on sports notability and organisation notability criteria. Nick Moyes (talk)

List of equipment of the Bangladesh Army

Hi, can someone take a look at List of equipment of the Bangladesh Army article and the history of it, as well as to the comment of the user involved? It just doesn't look good. Your opinion would be highly appreciated. Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 10:01, 13 November 2020 (UTC) Lotje (talk) 10:01, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

@Lotje: welcome to the Teahouse. I've fixing the appallingly large image of the weapon. Some people like to leave blunt messages for others on their user talk pages, even if they're too blind to see their own mistakes, as this editor was. Just ignore people's attitudes and stick to following Wikipedia's policies and you should be OK. Nick Moyes (talk) 11:07, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you every so much Nick Moyes. Lotje (talk) 11:31, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Submission Error

I have got error for this page as There is no reception section describing how the film is notable per the guidelines listed here: WP:NFILM. One review is at least linked to (in an odd location), but more reviews are needed. The only other source labeled as a review does not actually have a review posted. Amazon Prime response is not reliable unless there is a reliable source quoting this somewhere. below is the page link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Gosi_Gang Reviews are already attached in reference ODD location means & what is reception section Sarvasva30 (talk) 11:54, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

This article was recently declined on grounds that it doesnt meet the wikipedia notability guides, however I used external independent sources and wrote factually - so I'm unsure what to do in order to improve/resubmit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Maasthi_Upparahalli Sarvasva30 (talk) 11:58, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Sarvasva30, Hello! The reception section is used to describe what reviewers and the general public thought about the subject. What did they like? How well did it do in the box office? What awards were it nominated for? etc. Use Avengers: Endgame as an example. Here, they explain how much money the movie made, what the critical responses were, and the awards the movie won and was nominated for. Le Panini ^Talk 12:45, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the response added reception for the page have another issue with this page This article was recently declined on grounds that it doesnt meet the wikipedia notability guides, however I used external independent sources and wrote factually - so I'm unsure what to do in order to improve/resubmit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Maasthi_Upparahalli

It seems the article was declined for two reasons:

1. Additional citation

2. Relies too much on primary sources

I'll go over both and explain them in detail.

While the article has citations, it needs more to verify it as a notable subject. The reviewer left a link to WP:NBIO, and I suggest you take a look at it for the complete set of rules of the subject.

Primary sources are sources related to or closely related to the subject. An autobiography written by Maasthi Upparahalli would be a primary source, and someone talking about this autobiography would be a third party source.

If you have any other questions, let me know. Le Panini ^Talk 15:57, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Self promotion, and how to avoid it?

I twice wrote an article on my YouTube/Twitch channel, but every time I seemed to add a link for my channel, and/or talked of my efforts in speedrunning and such, it was rejected for "sounding too much like a self-promo." Any help on how to successfully upload it, without getting rejected? Xdude gamer (talk) 13:36, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Xdude gamer. My advice on how to avoid self promotion, is to stop trying to promote yourself and your activities here. Unless several people wholly unconnected with you taken enough interest to write significant coverage about them and been published in reliable sources, then Wikipedia is not interested in them, and you are wasting your time and effort in trying to get into Wikipedia. Please read What Wikipedia is not. --ColinFine (talk) 14:14, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

History of Draft:Meaningless Journey appears to be that you drafted and submitted about yourself, then deleted and created a renamed draft about your band. Either way, to second what ColinFine wrote, Wikipedia notability requires sources (references) written about you or about the band, not by you. David notMD (talk) 14:38, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Structure for an article

So I've been looking at this mess of an article (Matthew Kulke) for a while now, trying to think of ways to fix it. I realize potentially one of the best ways would be to start by using some kind of template (not the Multiple issues kind) to structure it like an article, then add some links and references, but I'm not sure of the "correct" structuring of a biography. If someone could point me in the right direction (or left) with a link that would be great! SnazzyInfinity - Chat? 14:42, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to The Teahouse, could this be what you are looking for Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biography? Theroadislong (talk) 14:48, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi SnazzyInfinity. I think the first thing you should do if you intend to improve it is add find reliable sources to cite in support of the article's content, and add them to the article asap; otherwise, the article is likely going to end up tagged or nominated for deletion, perhaps even by WP:BLPPROD, fairly quickly. Once some sources have been added to the article that establishes the subject's Wikipedia notability, you can then work on the formatting, etc. If you're looking for ideas on how to format the article, try looking at similar articles or even WP:FAs or WP:GAs for ideas. A perfectly formatted and written article is never going to be able to WP:OVERCOME a lack of proper sourcing. -- Marchjuly (talk) 14:52, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the links, I'll look those over. SnazzyInfinity - Chat? 14:55, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

I tend to disagree with the advice given above. Starting with the existing content, and finding and citing references to support it, has it backwards. An easier, and more effective, method is

1. Discard the existing contents.
2. Find reliable independent sources that discuss the subject.
3. Rewrite the article, basing it entirely on what those sources say.   Maproom (talk) 15:34, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

That works as well as long as it doesn't involving WP:BLANK; in other words, the existing content should probably be removed and replaced with the new properly sourced content in a single edit, which might be something a bit confusing for a new editor to try. It also implies a WP:TNT approach which might not be totally necessary per WP:PRESERVE if the only problem is a lack of proper sourcing. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:52, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Mary Wyant artist

Can someone find a bio on Mary Wyant, an artist in Tucson Arizona? I understand she taught at the U of Arizona and later became a full-time artist. She now has Alzheimer's disease and no longer paints. 47.196.140.244 (talk) 15:46, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Mary Wyant? It looks like there's a PBS documentary about her: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/a-mother-and-daughter-portrait-of-long-term-care. She doesn't have a Wikipedia page, though, and you'd have to find another reliable source of independent, significant coverage in order for her to have a page. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 08:24, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

All my edits get revert

All my edits get revert (っ °Д °;)っ PlsBeQUIET (talk) 16:07, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

All your edits were vandalism. David notMD (talk) 16:36, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

And what kind of copy-paste text emoji even is that? Like, what emotion is it portraying? Le Panini ^Talk 16:54, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

PackManEng

Ok so User:PackManEng is getting pretty annoying. Just look at his talk page for heavens sake! I know the tea house isn’t a place to ask this but I’m new and don’t know anywhere else to go. After living 36 years I have NEVER ever seen anybody like this on Wikipedia. He has constantly played the role of the devils advocate and has hounded multiple times. Please Help!! Lukeskrobot11 (talk) 16:19, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

If you have an issue with an editor, you first should take it up with them. If that doesn't help, you can try different kinds of WP:DR, including the administrator's noticeboard or its subpages. However, you have hardly edited on enwiki, and I don't see any evidence that PackManEng has interacted with you, never mind in a houding way. It is rather strange to see someone making out of the blue such an accusation, which violates our "no personal attacks" policy. Please indicate exactly what the issue is (at which articles or talk pages have you been hounded or otherwise bothered by them?). Simply accusing someone of poor behaviour without any indication of what it is you are worried about will not lead to any action against that other editor, but may reflect badly on you. Fram (talk) 16:28, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

@PackMecEng: I guess this is about you? Fram (talk) 16:30, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Better: @PackMecEng: Fram (talk) 16:31, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello Lukeskrobot11. There is no editor with that username. Perhaps you are thinking of User:PackMecEng, who is female. The first step is to discuss your specific concerns with the editor. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 16:32, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Lukeskrobot11 Rubbernecking does no good. Over four years, PackMedEng has had disagreements with other editors, but never with you, who registered less than one month ago. David notMD (talk) 16:47, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

I do not think we have interacted before. If we had I do not recall and apologies. Is there something I can do to help? PackMecEng (talk) 16:52, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Is there a way to tell someone that they need a source without undoing an edit?

I see a lot of edits that add new info without sources/citations. Is there a way to tell the user that they need citations without reverting their edit?

As a related question, can I make a draft-like edit that other people can revise, check, add citations, etc. without making it part of the actual page instantly? Eridian314 (talk) 16:23, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Eridian314, Well, talk pages might be the answer here. If you want to tell someone about their edits, leave a message on their talk page. You can also suggest what you want to add on the articles' talk page if you want opinions from other editors.

Additionally, you can mark the statement that needs citation with a {{Citation needed}} template, which looks like this:

"sentence in an article that needs citation."

Le Panini ^Talk 17:13, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Eridian314. If someone is adding unsourced info to an article I advise you to just revert it, and if you have WP:TW post the relevant notice on their talk page. CN tags are often ignored. SK2242 (talk) 07:16, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Or you can just search for a source yourself, if it's something which should be relatively easy to search for a source for. Try typing in the relevant keywords followed by "-wikipedia" on Google as a good place to start. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 20:05, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Infoboxes

How do I create infoboxes? I'm new to Wikipedia, and a lot of the stuff here is confusing to me. I was wondering how I can put infoboxes on a new page. Please reply to this if you can help me. Thanks, WikiToaster1 (talk) 16:23, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

@WikiToaster1: Many already-coded infobox templates are avaliable; a list can be found at Wikipedia:List of infoboxes. You can go to the documentation page for the most appropriate one, copy the template into your article, and fill in whatever parameters you can. A number of people find it easier just to copy the infobox from a similar article and replace the parameter values as necessary. Deor (talk) 17:12, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

An issue with userboxes.

Hello, Teahouse. :-)

I'm having a problem with userboxes on my user page. At the time of writing, you can see the result of this live at User:SeparateTitan92.

When trying to insert a number of userboxes one on top of another, they form a strange kind of staircase pattern. Is this a problem that others see too or just me and, if it is visible to others, how do I solve this?

Thanks and have a nice day. SeparateTitan92 (talk) 16:54, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

I removed the blank lines between. Is that what you wanted? Or perhaps not, as now across page and you mentioned wanting stacked? David notMD (talk) 17:01, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

I appreciate your help. Another person posted on my talk page that there was a way to group userboxes together, so I have used that solution with my WikiProject boxes and your solution with the rest. Thanks, have a nice day! SeparateTitan92 (talk) 17:24, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Working on Updating Citations

Hi Wiki editors! I am working on submitting a draft page and I have reviewed the citation styles and I believe I have added them in the correct format and updated the draft page. That said, I can't seem to figure out how to remove 1-14 now. See Draft:The Friedkin Group for the page I'm discussing. I think it's because they are still referenced in line (within the text) so now it's as if they are doubled up but I'm unsure how to delete or fix because I still want the citations to point to somewhere. Is there a place I can reference to understand how to make the in line citations match up to the reference list? I hope that makes sense and would appreciate any further guidance so I can continue to clean up the submission! Thank you! LucyArn (talk) 17:16, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Greetings, LucyArn, and welcome to the Teahouse. It appears that Victor Schmidt has already edited your draft to remove the duplicate references; I would suggest taking a look at this diff to see what exactly they did. Did this answer your questions? CThomas³ (talk) 20:37, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Cthomas3, for showing me that! And, Victor Schmidt, very much appreciate the assist! LucyArn (talk) 20:48, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Using a reference more than once

I've noticed that sometimes in articles someone will use a reference more than once, and it will be marked as [1a], but when I tried using a reference more than once it just did [2], how would I fix this? SnazzyInfinity - Chat? 17:37, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

@SnazzyInfinity: try WP:REFNAME. Note that the standard ref extension is yust capable of ^[number] afaik, anything else are templates. The closest one I could come up with is , which is done by giving the reference a group.Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:56, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

References

Ok, thanks SnazzyInfinity - Chat? 18:54, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

@SnazzyInfinity: Multiple uses of the same reference will always be numbered (or lettered) the same in the usage in the article text (e.g.^[1]), with different backlinked letters (^{a b c}) in front of the reference below. Like this here.. Victor Schmidt I think they're all implemented using <ref group="..."> – the templates are just wrappers to help out. Template:Efn#Template use by reference group type has a table of the predefined types and wrapper templates. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 06:33, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

References

Thanks User:AlanM1 this is exactly what I was looking for. SnazzyInfinity - Chat? 14:26, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Undoing

I am trying to create a draft. I accidentally did something wrong, and I'm wondering if I can undo changes within edits without undoing the whole edit. Can I? D4135t 18:15, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

D4135t, Go into the page history, and click the undo button next to the recent edit. Le Panini ^Talk 18:33, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello, D4135t, and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm not sure what you're asking, but I see that you have since reverted an edit you made, so I'm guessing that you've worked it out. But since I've looked: Unless you do something to rescue it, User:D4135t/Ridiculous Story is probably going to get speedily deleted under criterion WP:U5. Putting a "humour" tag doesn't make it any more relevant to Wikipedia than not doing so,. --ColinFine (talk) 18:38, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Le Panini, that's not what I mean. What I mean is only undoing a certain portion of the edit and not the whole edit. D4135t 18:53, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi D4135t. As far as I know there isn't an easy way to rectify two revisions together if content in the same area has been both added and removed. The simplest way would be to go to the "View History" tab, select the revisions you'd like to compare and click the 'Compare selected revisions' button. This will show you the exact changes and you can copy and paste the parts you need into a new edit window in another tab. This would be called a 'partial manual revert'. Zindor (talk) 19:07, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

@D4135t: Just edit the article again and change what you want to change. Remember that all edits are recorded in the history of the page, so clicking undo to totally undo an edit is effectively no different than just editing the article and manually putting things back the way they were. It's just a question of which is less work for you, or more likely to be accurate. Use undo when you're reverting most of a change and just leaving a little bit, or manually edit if you're keeping most of a change and just removing/fixing something small. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 06:40, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Kilometer/kilometre

Should you use kilometer or kilometre? -³²²UbnBr₂ (Talk | Contributions | Actions) 19:13, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Unbinilium-322 Dibromide, welcome to the Teahouse. It would depend on the variety of English the article is written in. There's more formatting information at Wikipedia:Kilometre. Regards, Zindor (talk) 19:25, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Unable to Post Justice Alito's Video

I just saw today's video from Justice Alito, and I tried to post the link on his Talk page. A Wikipedia filter blocked me from posting the link. Charles Juvon (talk) 20:30, 13 November 2020 (UTC) Charles Juvon (talk) 20:30, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Charles Juvon, yes some URLs are blacklisted. Consider finding a different website that hosts the video. Also it's rarely worth posting a URL by itself; maybe add to your post what parts of the video you consider relevant and why they have a bearing on the article. Regards, Zindor (talk) 20:50, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello, Charles Juvon. I'm not clear why you would want to post a video of the subject on the Talk page. It is by definition a primary source, so until there is indpendent material published about it, it is almost irrelevant to the article. Please first discuss on the talk page just what changes to the article you are considering or recommending, and why a link to the video would be relevant. Remember, the talk page is for discussing how the article could be improved: nothing else. --ColinFine (talk) 20:54, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

I had hoped to give a more experienced editor material to use.Charles Juvon (talk) 21:00, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Charles Juvon, that's understandable. It was kind of you to make other editors aware of the video but it's typically assumed that experienced editors already keep themselves abreast of such information. Unless there's something specific that needs discussing in regard to the article, it's best to refrain from posting links. Kind regards, Zindor (talk) 21:16, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Inserting links

I mostly like to edit articles about older movies-- updating and expanding the information. I have not been able to find the instructions for how to link something to another article in Wikipedia. For instance, if the movie has Shirley Temple in the cast, I would like to add a link to the article about Shirley Temple-- can anyone give me step by step for a complete beginner of how to do that? Kimberjd (talk) 21:25, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Kimberjd. The links you're describing are "internal links" or "Wikilinks" and you can find out more about them in MOS:LINK. There's another type of link as well called "external links" and you can find out about them in WP:EL. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:39, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

I wish to create a Wikipedia site for the photographer James Fortune

I work with renowned rock photographer James Fortune, and he asked about Wikipedia. He has two websites jamesfortunephotography.com and james-fortune-archive.com His work is in the Smithsonian, The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, in many rock books and on CD covers by artists such as Jimmy Page and others. A photo of his of John Bonham was used for Bonham's statue in England. There are numerous articles written about him, and his work has appeared in major publications all over the world. I think he would be a good subject for a Wikipedia article. Brookesaunders (talk) 21:36, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Brookesaunders. Wikipedia is not really a "website" for people in which they have pages or accounts per se as explained in Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, but it is a website which contains encyclopedic articles written about people who are considered to meet its criteria for inclusion and article content. So, the first thing you're going to need to do is self-assess whether Fortune is someone considered to be Wikipedia notable. Try looking at Wikipedia:Notability (people) and also perhaps this guide written by a Wikipedia administrator named Ian.thomson to see if that's a real possibility. If it is, then perhaps you could start working on a draft for a possible article about him, and then submit it to Wikipedia:Articles for creation for review when you think it's ready. You can find some general information on how articles are actually expected to be written and how citations are to be added to articles in Help:Your first article and Help:Referencing for beginners. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:51, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

@Brookesaunders: According to this search, this has been brought up a number of times, including Draft:James Fortune (photographer) by Brandyfortune that was declined for lack of sources, an editor Jamesfortune47 that was blocked for using the name of their apparent employer, which is not allowed, individual requests to various editors to try to get an article accepted, etc. I don't know if you are one of the previous people involved. If so, I'd suggest reviewing the plentiful informational links you've been given on policy and purpose of Wikipedia. It all comes down to whether you can demonstrate, via multiple independent, reliable sources that have covered him and his work in significant detail, that he is notable according to Wikipedia's criteria. If you are WP:PAID or have a relationship with him (WP:COI), those policies apply as well. Lastly, consider that having a Wikipedia article about you is not necessarily desirable and it is largely not under your control even if you do manage to write and have it accepted. Anyone editor is free to edit it, within Wikipedia guidelines and policies of course. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 07:02, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Adding WikiProject tags to drafts

Hello, I am trying to tag my draft with relevant WikiProject tags, to improve my odds of a speedy review. However when I try to I get an error that says "Please check the draft page title. It doesn't seem to be in draft namespace"

Any help is greatly appreciated, this is my first page I have created and I really want it to be accepted, so I can create more.

Thank you for your time 199.188.137.126 (talk) 21:59, 13 November 2020 (UTC)ALLBN 199.188.137.126 (talk) 21:59, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello, IP editor. You are not logged in, and this IP address of yours has only ever made just this one single edit at the Teahouse. So, it's impossible to look at your draft, as you didn't link to it. That said, it's not acceptable to add WikiProjects or Categories to draft pages. One should wait until a draft is approved and moved to the main part of the encyclopaedia. The best way of getting a speedy review is to ensure your draft is short, succinct, and references with good quality, independent reliable sources. But don't overdo the references: if you add in lots of trivial mentions you'll possibly put off reviewers, causing the process to lengthen, not shorten. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:44, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Expedite review

Hi there can anyone help me out here? Been almost 3 months that an article I wrote has been waiting to get reviewed. Is there any way to expedite the process? Hayleegraham (talk) 22:13, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Hayleegraham Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. As noted on your draft, "This may take 3 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 3,516 pending submissions waiting for review." You will need to continue to be patient. 331dot (talk) 22:17, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Messinian (artist) now Declined. Reviewer left comments. There is a lot of puffery in the draft. Stuff like this: "With a relentless work ethic, a growing fan-base around the nation, and a commanding presence on stage, Messinian’s musical path was quickly met with global success. All that has to come out. And a paucity of refs. David notMD (talk) 03:14, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

First article

Hello, I'm new to Wiki. I just wrote my first article in the sandbox and want to publish to the public. I can't seem to find instructions to do this. Any help appreciated! Dave. Rocking Scoundrels (talk) 00:18, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Rocknig Scoundrels Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Please review the important information I will post to your user talk page regarding your username. Regarding your draft, I will shortly add the appropriate information to allow you to submit it for consideration as formally being part of the encyclopedia(it is "public" in that anyone who knows about it can find it, but it is not yet part of the encyclopedia). However, if you were to submit it now, it would be rejected quickly, because it has no independent reliable sources to support its content. A Wikipedia article must summarize what independent reliable sources say about (in this case) a band, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable band, not what the band wants to say about itself or what it considers to be its own history. Wikipedia is only interested in what others say about your band, with significant coverage.

Successfully writing a new article is the absolute hardest task to perform on Wikipedia, and it is even harder with a conflict of interest. If you have independent reliable sources completely unaffiliated with the band that give it significant coverage, you may rewrite your draft to only summarize those sources. If such sources are lacking, it would not merit an article at this time. 331dot (talk) 00:24, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

• (Pinging Rocking Scoundrels.) —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 07:15, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Add back links

How do I add back links? I’m new so I don’t know how to add back links. Bbaaeeee (talk) 00:52, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Bbaaeeee, would you please explain what you mean by back links? You could have replaced the link you removed by going to your Contributions page (found at top of any Wikipedia page if you are logged in), located the edit which removed the link, and clicked the edit's blue "undo" link.--Quisqualis (talk) 03:23, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

@Bbaaeeee: Linking to another Wikipedia article is done by surrounding the page name with double square brackets like [[Foo]], which produces the blue link Foo (see WP:CHEATSHEET and MOS:LINK). Is that what you mean? —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 07:18, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

"President-elect"

Discuss at Talk:President-elect of the United States

YOUR PRESIDENT-ELECT PUBLICATION CONTRIDICTS ITSELF. IT SAYS BIDEN AND HARRIS ARE PRESIDENT/VP ELECTS, HOWEVER, REFER TO FIRST AND LAST SENTENCE OF CONGRESSIONAL ....THE 'ELECTS' ARE THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN ELECTED BY THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE, AND NO ONE HAS BEEN ELECTED BY THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE YET. MIGHT FEEL GOOD TO CONSIDER THE ARE PRESIDENT AND VP-ELECT, FOR PROPAGANDA REASONS, BUT VERY UNTRUE, AND ALL OTHER THINGS OUT THERE ARE UNTRUE. READ THE LAW READ THE LAW READ THE LAW 70.126.151.105 (talk) 07:40, 14 November 2020 (UTC) Hello. Please don't yell. Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources state, not necessarily what is official or legal. Almost all reliable sources have determined who the winner is. If you disagree with what they say, you will need to take that up with them. Good luck with that. 331dot (talk) 08:03, 14 November 2020 (UTC) "Projecting" is the better word. We have to be careful with RS-es, though, since their biases have gotten more robust. GeraldWL 10:30, 14 November 2020 (UTC) Multiple IP addresses, new accounts, and sleeper accounts have been popping up in various places to make poorly stated complaints of this type in the past few days. I think that there may be external canvassing. In any case, they have a right to pop up and make their statements, and the community has a right to state that Wikipedia summarizes what reliable sources have reported. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:37, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

How to contact a specific editor?

I am interested in contacting Grey Wanderer from Missouri. I am a non-traditional student at a community college in southwest Missouri. I am considering editing the college's Wikipedia page next semester as part of a class project. DonneyC (talk) 08:02, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

DonneyC Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Every editor has a user talk page, such as mine: User talk:331dot. A user talk page is intended for communication with the named person. Some users also allow others to email them, with an "Email this user" link on the same page to the left; though users are not obligated to respond. 331dot (talk) 08:08, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

DonneyC, just post at User talk:Grey Wanderer. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 08:19, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm an audio-visual learner. Learning from reading is difficult for me.  DonneyC (talk) 08:28, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

To contact Grey Wanderer, I just need to add a new section on their talk page?  DonneyC (talk) 08:32, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

DonneyC You can start a new section, or just edit the entire page. 331dot (talk) 08:42, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Marketing

How the picture of any products can be replaced when it is wrong? 154.68.126.69 (talk) 09:28, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

From the title of this section I gather that WP:PAID applies to you. As for image corrections, the best path is probably to ask at WP:FFU to have a new image revision uploaded. Victor Schmidt (talk) 09:38, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

I would also consider discussion image concerns on the relevant article's talk page. The problem with Wikimedia Commons is that there's tons of licencing controls, but virtually no quality control on the accuracy of the image and its labelling. Flagging up concerns over an image's use on a talk page is very helpful. Nick Moyes (talk) 14:10, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

What's the difference...

...between normal rollback and Twinkle rollback? Hello 10:07, 14 November 2020 (UTC) Hello 10:07, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Lettherebedarklight, nothing. And there's also nothing different between rollback and undo. It's just... undoing. GeraldWL 10:23, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

...so why do both exist? Just curious. Hello 10:24, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Lettherebedarklight, absolutely no idea. Perhaps if you get rollback privileges, you can undo it quicker. I dunno. GeraldWL 10:28, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Lettherebedarklight, Gerald Waldo Luis. Rollback requires special privilege and is restricted as to when it may be used. It requires one click, doesn't ask for an edit summary, and I think it doesn't notify the person being reverted. —teb728 t c 10:41, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Undo bring up an edit screen which by default reverts the selected edit and has a canned edit summary, but you can edit anything on the page and change the edit summary. I seldom use Twinkle rollback, but as I recall it asks for a reason and adds the page to your watchlist. —teb728 t c 11:16, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

@Lettherebedarklight: Twinkle rollback has three options: Good faith, Regular, and Vandalism. Reverting as "vandalism" does not prompt for an edit summary, but the other two kinds do. In addition, Twinkle rollback opens the talk page of the user you're reverting, and makes it much easier to warn them, and as teb728 says it also adds the reverted page to your watchlist. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 12:07, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Population spread

Hey everyone, I'm very new at this so thank you in advance for helping me out.

I was looking at the page for my hometown Edmeston, New York and I noticed there was a red link to a page for "population spread," which does not exist on Wikipedia.

I looked around at other towns in the county to see what they put for population spread and it looks like they just do not link it to a page at all. Is this something that I should switch to plain text or is there another suggested page to link to?

Thank you! Otsegomaniac (talk) 14:00, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

If there isn't a link it should be redirected to, chances are you should just leave it. The red link guideline says, 'Do not remove red links unless you are certain that Wikipedia should not have an article on the subject, or if the red link could be replaced with a link to an article section where the subject is covered as part of a broader topic'. SnazzyInfinity (talk • contribs) 14:58, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Otsegomaniac and SnazzyInfinity I got curious so I Googled "population spread" - the first few pages of results mostly wrre about the management of invasive alien plants, none were about humans or cities at all. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:24, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Who are they?

Who are the editor who can review the drafts which are submitted for review. Adishere (talk) 14:02, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

The main people who review drafts submitted for review are people from the Articles for Creation WikiProject.

The requirements to become a reviewer are:

• a Wikipedia account at least 90 days old.
• a minimum of 500 undeleted edits to articles.
• thoroughly read and understood the reviewing instructions.
• a demonstrated understanding of the policies mentioned in the reviewing instructions, including the various special notability categories.
• reasonable evidence of understanding the deletion policy (experience in areas such as CSD/AfD/PROD or page curation, while not mandatory, are beneficial).
• a willingness and ability to respond in a timely manner to questions about their reviews.

Eyebeller (talk) 14:21, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Adishere. We also have a list of all active reviewers at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Participants. The shortcut to arrive at this same page is WP:AFC/P. Hope this helps. Nick Moyes (talk) 14:25, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Lowercase sigmabot III stopped archiving my talk page

At the top of my talk page, I have the following archiving configuration:

{{User:MiszaBot/config | algo = old(5d) | archive = User talk:Eyebeller/Archives/%(year)d/%(monthname)s | archiveheader = {{Archive}} | minthreadsleft = 5 }}

This seemed to have stopped working though. I have 6 threads on my talk page, enough for an archive and the oldest thread which I expect to be archived is 12 days old. Why doesn't it work? Eyebeller (talk) 14:17, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

How to make userbox call bracket thing?

Hello, @Sandy14156: was kind enough to make me a userbox to show that the user that displays it has an IP VPN exception. I read a bit on Wikipedia:Userboxes, but I still can't understand how I take the userbox and make a userbox code (I think that's the right term) that lets me embed it in my userpage. Here is the [[4]] if anyone wants to use it. I'm talking about the userbox text inside the curly brackets. Thank you to anyone who can help. Sorry if my lack of Wikipedia knowledge confuses you. SmileyTrek (talk) 14:28, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi SmileyTrek. You can do one of two things:

1. Take the name of the userpage where it was created and call it to your userpage by surrounding that page title in curly brackets, i.e., template call markup. So, post where you want the userbox to display: {{User:Sandy14156/Userboxes/IP block}}; or
2. Take the raw code from the userbox page, and post that to where you want the userbox to display. So, copy and paste this to your userpage:

{{Userbox
| border-c = #FFD700
| id       = IP
| id-c     = red
| id-fc    = #000000
| id-s     = 14
| info     = This user has an VPN IP block exemption.
| info-c   = gold
| info-fc  = black
| info-s   = 8
}}

One advantage of using the raw code is that if the userbox ever gets deleted, modified, or vandalized, that won't affect your userpage display. (There's even a third option, which is to substitute the template call in (1) above to your userpage, which will have the same affect as (2) above, but I thought that limiting the options might be best.) Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:42, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Number of Wikipedia articles

How many Wikipedia articles are there? I lost count 😉 Jenerusmonkeyman426 (talk) 14:37, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

On the CreateAccount page, it says there are 6,190,094 articles. 14:50, 14 November 2020 (UTC) Eyebeller (talk) 14:50, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

The {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} and {{NUMBEROFPAGES}} WP:Magic words will give you the current numbers (6,931,910 and 62,157,136 respectively). ‑ Iridescent 14:55, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Jenerusmonkeyman426, the number of articles is also on the Main Page, in the banner at the top. It's not an exact number but updates frequently. —valereee (talk) 15:42, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

new article question by Poopas1994

Hello I am writing in regards to a subject and i was told i am trying to praise the subject what can i do to sound neutral this is the link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Poopas1994/sandbox --Poopas1994 (talk) 16:29, 14 November 2020 (UTC) Poopas1994 (talk) 16:29, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Poopas1994, sounds like you're being paid to make it. Note that being paid doesn't mean you get money, it simply means you're being told or coerced into doing so. If you're told to "praise the subject," you probably won't be able to make it neutral under the command of the one telling you to make the article. But if you really want to contribute to this encyclopedia and not care about that paid edit, I can help you with that. GeraldWL 16:44, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Gerald Waldo Luis I think that the OP was saying a reviewer told them they were praising the subject, not that they were instructed to praise it. 331dot (talk) 16:49, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

@Poopas1994: adding the same reference over and over is not going to help your case. I will generate a source assesment according to WP:GNG in about half an hour. Victor Schmidt (talk) 16:58, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Lol okay. Could you tell me how I can make it better? The invention is notable and I found links to its publishing.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Poopas1994 (talk • contribs)

@Poopas1994: Judging from the images you uploaded to Commons, which are of a far higher resolution and originality than is used by the subject on her Facebook and her website pages, and also because you seem to have access to all her patent documents, it suggests to me that you probably have a very close relationship with the designer, Christine Kato. If that is the case, you must declare that connection before you attempt to edit further. Instructions how to do that are at this page on Conflict of Interest and this page on paid editing. I have left similar advice for you on your talk page. Please also read PROMOTION and AUTOBIOGRAPHY to understand why trying to write about oneself or a close colleague is not a good idea. I would also add that if the 'Breast handbag' is itself notable and meets our notability criteria, then the article should be about that, and not about its creator. The overkill of images in Draft:Christine Kato suggests there is a dual purpose in trying to create this article, explained further here. Nick Moyes (talk) 17:30, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Oh okay that's true. I will change it to The Breast Handbag Design also from Website,FB,IG and google photos high resolution can be downloaded. --Poopas1994 (talk) 20:17, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Ouch, source assesment took a while. Here we go:

Source assessment table

Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
https://guardian.ng/sunday-magazine/kato-ingenious-bag-designer-with-unusual-touch/	~ In large parts the subject's own words	appears to be reliable	about 3 pages if I were to print this excluding the ads	~ Partial
https://guardian.ng/guardian-woman/i-want-to-use-my-breast-bag-design-to-create-more-awareness-for-cancer-christine-kato/	Interview	~ Generally a reliable source, but Interviews are WP:PRIMARY	some coverage, howewer, still not independent	✘ No
http://www.eregistration.copyright.gov.ng/search/application?id=pSzmvc95sME%3d	~ Patent entry	~ Probbably reliable, but WP:PRIMARY again	directory entry	✘ No
http://www.alexreports.info/2019/01/boobs-i-want-to-use-my-breast-bag.html?m=1	Dead link	Dead link	Dead link	✘ No
www.christinekato.com	Subject's website	~ Subject's website, see WP:PRIMARY and WP:BLPPRIMARY	Interesting animation, but virtually no coverage.	✘ No
https://www.nigerianwomendiary.com/2019/04/a-unique-breast-bag-by-house-of-christine-art-and-designs/	Could not be deterimed	Blog post	No coverage of Christine Kato, but rather on her campaing	✘ No
https://www.newswatch.ng/checkout-a-unique-artworks-created-by-house-of-christine-art-and-designs/	Dead link	Dead link	Dead link	✘ No
RPD/RD/2016/495	No source location could be determined.	No source location could be determined.	No source location could be determined.	? Unknown
NG/P/2018/89	No source location could be determined.	No source location could be determined.	No source location could be determined.	? Unknown
NO AW0140	No source location could be determined.	No source location could be determined.	No source location could be determined.	? Unknown
https://www.nigerianngo.com/blog/house-of-christine-is-raising-awareness-for-breast-cancer-through-fashion	guardian source	blog, WP:SELFPUB	this is sourced to the second ref examined	✘ No
https://www.pulse.ng/lifestyle/fashion/my-staff-have-been-told-to-cut-ties-with-me-says-ceo-of-house-of-christine-art-and/mb1k30v	interview	probbably reliable	about a lengthely page	✘ No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaOtlS98r6k	Interview	~ Interview, also WP:RSPYT	~ 4:20 interview	✘ No
https://twmagazine.net/tw-opinion/the-scourge-of-breast-ironing	~ Possibly depending on interview contents not publicly available	possibly reliable	One short opinated paragraph probbably from itnerview	✘ No
https://www.pulse.ng/news/rising-dragons-christine-kato-house-of-christine/eqs4826	~ largely interview-like content	~ News probbably reliable, interview contents definitely not	~ Not much coverage apart from subject's own words	~ Partial
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

Assesed revision: this one Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:54, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Question by Humpin04

Can I please Become a writer not an editor Humpin04 (talk) 17:01, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Humpin04. Editor is simply a generic term that is used to refer to Wikipedia users. It doesn't restrict you to "editing" - you can write article content too (providing you follow the rules, of course). Cordless Larry (talk) 17:30, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Reference Not Existing

I am trying to add references to a page, and I found a reference. I put the reference in the page, and it didn't have a link. I have typed the URL correctly. D4135t 19:01, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

@D4135t: it didn't work because you ommited the http:// protocol, which is required for the software to turn something into a clickable link. I have added it for you this time. Note that I am not so sure if this topic meets WP:GNG resp. the source WP:SELFPUB. Victor Schmidt (talk) 19:21, 14 November 2020 (UTC)