User talk:BanyanClimber
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March 2020
Hello, I'm David Gerard. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. David Gerard (talk) 10:00, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Please do not add or change content without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. In addition, you just added a deprecated source that made claims about the actions of living persons. Please desist. David Gerard (talk) 10:03, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
April 2020
Hello, I'm Materialscientist. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —specifically this edit to Euphoria (American TV series)—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help desk. Thanks. Materialscientist (talk) 08:50, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
@Materialscientist: I don't get it. I was being extra cautious and i was trying to make the plot summaries more succinct. Could you elaborate on what I did wrong? Daveout (talk) 08:56, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
Catholic Church and western culture
I've started a discussion on the Western culture talk page. Please participate.Graecusperseus (talk) 08:32, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Notice of discretionary sanctions on pages related to the Arab-Israeli conflict
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Rula Jebreal
As you may know, many (according to polls, most) Arab citizens of Israel consider themselves Palestinian. Rula Jebreal describes herself as a Palestinian, as the sources linked in the first sentence of her article make clear. Please stop removing the word "Palestinian" from the first sentence of the article. I will remind you that in addition to falling under WP:ARBPIA, the article is a WP:BLP, so special care must be taken with how the subject is presented. -Thucydides411 (talk) 15:59, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Thucydides411: Oh! So if i decided to call myself Martian that's what should count? Every lead in this encyclopedia mentions the individual's NATIONALITY, how they identify as is irrelevant. Stop threatening me with sanctions (bc i do not fear them) and try bringing some actual arguments. This reminds me of how Lady Gaga always presented herself as being "Italian" (bc she has italian parents), but guess what? her article says she's American, bc she was born in America, no matter what she identifies as. Just an example. Daveout (talk) 16:40, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
- Good luck convincing those who engage in identity politics! Msiehta (talk) 09:46, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
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June 2020
Your recent editing history at Mermaids (charity) shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
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Partial block from Richard Stallman
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
. El_C 13:07, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
@El C: I don't get it. Why am I the only one being blocked when lazer kitty was also involved? They haven't gain consensus to implement their revision, I was trying to preserve the status quo version which is also the version preferred by the majority (so far). -- Daveout
(talk) 13:29, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- I pointed you toward engaging in further discussion on the article talk page or even lanunching a dispute resolution request, but you did neither. Instead, you immediately resumed edit warring upon the expiration of the protection, invoking a bizarre argument about WP:DEMOCRACY which is contrary to Wikipedia policy. That has consequences. El_C 13:34, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- @El C:But there is a dispute resolution request going on at a specialized noticeboard already (npov\n). (here). Lazer-Kitty is the one proposing changes, so they should be the one waiting for consensus. No consensus was established yet, so why should their preferred version be immediately enforced when a considerable number of users disagree with it? It’s not a matter of wp:democracy, but of wp:quo.--
Daveout
(talk) 14:01, 14 August 2020 (UTC) - Never mind. I give up, this is too unfair and frustrating.--
Daveout
(talk) 14:01, 14 August 2020 (UTC)- I don't understand. Do wish for me to respond, or not? El_C 14:05, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- @El C:But there is a dispute resolution request going on at a specialized noticeboard already (npov\n). (here). Lazer-Kitty is the one proposing changes, so they should be the one waiting for consensus. No consensus was established yet, so why should their preferred version be immediately enforced when a considerable number of users disagree with it? It’s not a matter of wp:democracy, but of wp:quo.--
- Daveout, Wikipedia is not ruled by a simple majority and a simple majority does not equate to consensus. I take issue with the way you've counted editor support here, but even if we assume your 3 vs 2 number is accurate, it doesn't actually mean anything. As WP:CONSENSUS states, "The quality of an argument is more important than whether it represents a minority or a majority view." At this point I don't even see you making an argument, just claiming that since 3 > 2 you are allowed to revert.
- The version of the article that I first encountered last week had egregious NPOV violations, the likes of which I have frankly never seen before on this website. To claim we need to maintain that status quo is unbelievable. I opened an NPOV discussion and an admin very quickly agreed and rewrote the section in question. To me, that is our starting point. I'm not claiming that Masem's version is perfect or that an administrator's word is final, and I agree that there is room for improvement, but let's work together to improve it instead of trading reverts.
- I'm not planning on dusting myself off and walking away claiming victory. As I said, I agree there is room for improvement in this article, and I'd like to continue making those improvements, hopefully with your help. I would strongly encourage you to explain on Talk:Richard Stallman what concerns you have with the current version of the page and how I can help address those concerns. I'm not sure if your ban prevents you from editing the talk page as well, but if it does, please feel free to ping me on my own talk page. Lazer-kitty (talk) 14:38, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- I would like to add, though, because I think I missed this earlier comment at WP:NPOV - I accused you of trolling based on your behavior in this specific discussion. For you to think that gives you a reason to attempt to undermine me by dragging up things from my past is extremely unacceptable and uncalled for. Furthermore, the sockpuppet account in question was not me, but was presumably someone trying very hard to impersonate me to (I guess?) justify a harsher punishment. They failed in that regard so I didn't bother pursuing WP:CheckUser to prove it, but if editors are going to reference this in entirely unrelated discussions then maybe I need to revisit that. Lazer-kitty (talk) 15:09, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
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Richard Stallman
I don't want to impose further at User talk:El C#Richard Stallman so I'll reply here. I've been watching Richard Stallman for years due to my software interest so I noticed the fuss, although I haven't followed the details. I did not join in because I know it would be wasted effort. The problem is that people literally cannot understand what Stallman writes so their response to your efforts will be framed in terms of wondering why you want to defend a bad person—he must be bad because that's what social media (and the copy-cat mainstream media) says. Since, with rare exceptions, Wikipedia is ruled by majority, your efforts will be frustrated. Also, articles are normally written in the manner your critics want and your efforts to include longer quotes to give context are counter to standard procedure. I think you would need a secondary source where the author has plenty of relevant expertise (for WP:RS) and where they strongly defend Stallman by explaining what the longer quotes mean and why the extracts are misleading. Until that happens, your efforts won't get consensus. Johnuniq (talk) 07:37, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Johnuniq:Yep, those people are probably unaware of Stallman's long history of public freak outs triggered by ppl using “inaccurate” terminology (especially when it comes to linux, open-source, and intellectual property, for example)
- Regarding the most recent controversies, his words were framed in an egregiously sensationalistic manner. For instance, "she presented herself to him as entirely willing". Almost sounds like Stallman said the victim was willing to be raped. That sounds awful indeed, but reading that in context gives a completely different impression. So I’ve been trying to push the full quotation into the article. —
Daveout
(talk) 23:20, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
Troubled Blood
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- @Diannaa: I didn't know that. Thanks. -
Daveout
(talk) 15:15, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
September 2020
Your recent editing history at J. K. Rowling shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
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- @Crossroads: I dislike that sentence because it is too vague… who are those many women? How many is actually “many”? How is it demeaning? I feel that more clarification is needed in this case. The source says she equates the phrase to “degrading slurs spat at [women] by violent men”. (maybe that should be added?). And is also worth noting that some women considered JK’s reduction of womanhood to periods demeaning too. -
Daveout
(talk) 16:56, 20 September 2020 (UTC)- It's Rowling's view and sources treat it as significant, so it being 'vague' in your view is not relevant. Many women do feel that way. It's perfectly clear. They consider it demeaning because they feel instead of being addressed as women, they are reduced to a bodily function. In other words, it is not JK who is reducing "women" to "people who menstruate". Yes, a small minority of non-women menstruate, but the common experience of female biology is extremely heavily socially associated with womanhood, and this is why people often react negatively (and they generally do - I have seen it numerous times) to these substitutions where until very recently people would have just said "women" or "men". The politically predictable misinterpretations of a few Twitter nobodies are not noteworthy. Let's accept the existing compromise and not waste more time on it. Crossroads -talk- 01:43, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Glenn Greenwald
Later article re far left Greenwald https://www.haaretz.com/amp/world-news/.premium-fascism-and-the-far-left-a-grim-global-love-affair-1.7288230 Haaretz is a progressive site. It’s from 2019. ___
Summary:
Sources on Glenn Greenwald as far-left
1. "Would You Feel Differently About Snowden, Greenwald, and Assange If You Knew What They Really Thought?" Greenwald had come to reside in a peculiar corner of the political forest, where the far left meets the far right. . The New Republic - Jan, 2014
2.
Max Boot: “Democrats need to beware their loony left
“Indeed, it’s often hard to tell the extremists apart. Anti-vaccine activists come from both the far left and the far right — and while most of those who defend President Trump’s dealings with Russia are on the right, some, such as Glenn Greenwald and Stephen F. Cohen, are on the left.”
Washington Post, February 13, 2019
(incidentally Max writes against Trump in WP).
3. The National Interest. "Why Are So Many Leftists Skeptical of the Russia Investigation?". "The purest form of this sentiment on the far left is a vein of attacks that are almost indistinguishable from Republican rhetoric about the investigation. The Intercept’s Glenn Greenwald has gone from insisting evidence of Russian interference should be discounted until Robert Mueller produced some indictments to now saying indictments themselves should also be discounted." NY Magazine July 29, 2018
4. "Why Is the Far Left Defending Tulsi Gabbard?" Nancy leTourneau, Washington Monthly, Nov. 12, 2019
5. Fascism and the Far Left: A Grim Global Love Affair.." “... Tucker Carlson and The Intercept's Glenn Greenwald the crossover...” Haaretz, May 27, 2019.Kacziey (talk) 20:18, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
Hello. You appear to be repeatedly reverting or undoing other editors' contributions at Glenn Greenwald. Although this may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is known as "edit warring" and is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, as it often creates animosity between editors. Instead of reverting, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page. Kacziey (talk) 13:27, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Reminding what you said:
“And this is a 2014 article, can't u find anything more recent? “
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Intercept&diff=prev&oldid=980258229 Now you still edit war after you see at least 3 sources from 2019.Kacziey (talk) 13:57, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
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Fala?
Brasileiro? Eu não sou, mas às vezes traduzo artigos em português para o inglês e preciso de ajuda para entender certas frases. Mathglot (talk) 03:24, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Mathglot: Yes, I am. And I'll be happy to help you. (you can even "batch-paste" texts that need translation, review, or explanation here). 🙂✌ -
Daveout
(talk) 03:57, 2 October 2020 (UTC)- Oh, super! I'm not translating an article at the moment, but there are bunch of them that are completed, mostly related to Lava Jato, that could always stand a native speaker to check them over. But I don't want to dump a boring, proofreading task on you. I'll list the articles below, and you can look if you want. More interesting to me, at the moment, is this: while translating and developing those articles, I quite frequently ran across terms I did not know, either from the legal profession, or some of the numerous abbreviations Brazilians love to use. I spent quite some time building a glossary, and if you wanted to check it out to make sure I didn't make any howling errors, that would be useful. The project-space glossary is here: WP:Brazil-G. Later, when developing the nav template {{Operation Car Wash}}, I realized I needed a Mainspace glossary, so picked off a few terms from the Project glossary, to create Glossary of Brazil investigative terms; this article is a derivative work and much smaller, the advantage being that it can be linked from articles or nav templates, where the project space glossary cannot. Anyway, since Brazil-G is the main work, if you feel like checking for errors, that would be the place to start.
- Some of the Brazil-related articles I've worked on include Offshoots of Operation Car Wash, Phases of Operation Car Wash, Brazilian Anti-Corruption Act, Caixa 2, Odebrecht–Car Wash leniency agreement, Condução coercitiva, and I probably forgot some. Or, just forget all of this, and when I have a specific question, I'll ask. Mathglot (talk) 06:11, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
October 2020
Your recent editing history at Singular they shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
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Regarding GNU
This edit was added on October 2. It was then reverted, citing a talk page discussion that is still ongoing. Your edit summary suggests that this was in the article for some time with consensus and then removed, when this is not the case. To avoid edit warring, do not continue to reinsert material that you know is contentious when there is an ongoing discussion taking place. - Aoidh (talk) 01:00, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Aoidh: That was first removed by User:Ahunt two months prior, on August 20. He claimed a consensus that never really existed. Some people agreed with him, other didn't. No solution was defined in that discussion. Before that, if you take a look at the page's history, GNU was defined as an OS for at least a decade. -
Daveout
(talk) 01:20, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
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Greatest of ALL time vs Greatest of 21st century
posted my reasoning in the talk page for the article page. hope you check it out — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boomyeahboss (talk • contribs) 05:19, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
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- @User:Newimpartial. I'm aware, thanks.👍 -
Daveout
(talk) 20:57, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Joseph Safra
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Hello, Daveout,
I was reverting another editor's edits on this article which also reverted your most recent edit to the page. To reinstate it, I replaced the paragraph with the one you rewrote but it turns out that the editor I was reverting had removed a lot of content from that paragraph before you rewrote it. So I reverted my edit that contained your changes. If you go look at the edit history, please look over my most recent edits and you can decide whether you prefer your version of this paragraph (my second edit) or the original state of this paragraph (my first and third edit). Liz Read! Talk! 00:22, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks @Liz:. those sentences were originally written "the way brazilians speak"; so they probably seemed odd or unnatural to native speakers. look:
- original:
Enhanced by political and economic crises with evidence of involvement by politicians from all the primary political parties in several bribery and tax evasion schemes, with large street protests for and against her, Rousseff was impeached by the Brazilian Congress in 2016.
- my version:
Rousseff was impeached by the Brazilian Congress in 2016. Large street protests for and against her took place during the process. The charges against her were fueled by political and economic crises along with evidence of involvement with politicians (from all the primary political parties) in several bribery and tax evasion schemes.
- original:
- I'll restore my version cuz i think it is a bit clearer. but thanks again for letting me know :) -
Daveout
(talk) 01:27, 23 December 2020 (UTC)