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UEFA has officially put out a tweet saying that Cristiano Ronaldo is the sole "top scorer". Cristiano Ronaldo has officially been given the Golden Boot for 5 goals and 1 assist. Shouldn't he be listed as the sole top scorer then? ApprehensiveBat39 (talk) 01:26, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Two players finished with five goals, and are joint top scorers. Ronaldo won the "Alipay Top Scorer" award, the name of the Golden Boot for this tournament. S.A. Julio (talk) 19:26, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, he should. It looks like the template itself needs to be updated; the award for top scorer is now no longer shared in major tournaments, and as such the template should list the top scorer award recipient instead of just "top scorer(s)". It should also perhaps list the 2nd and 3rd place top scorers, as they often receive a trophy of some kind.
The Golden Boot award (also known as Golden Shoe in much of Europe, sometimes branded for sponsorship reasons e.g. Alipay Top Scorer) is now awarded to one player, with assists and minutes played usually been used as tie-breakers if two or more players are tied on goals. UEFA has handed out a Golden Boot award since 1960, but only used tie-breakers (to ensure only one recipient of the Golden Boot) from Euro 2012 onwards. In that tournament, Fernando Torres won the Golden Boot despite Mario Gomez also having the same number of goals *and* assists. The tie-breaker there was, Torres had played fewer minutes.
For this article, Ronaldo won the Golden Boot, which is named the Top Scorer Award by UEFA, and the Alipay Top Scorer Award for this edition of the tournament due to sponsorship by the Chinese company Alipay. That is what matters in modern tournaments. Another case in point: at the 2018 World Cup, Harry Kane won the golden boot with 6 goals, but the Silver Boot and Bronze Boot went to players who both scored 4 goals; they were tie-broken by assists.
The infobox already shows awards. The "best player" is whoever won the "Player of the Tournament" award, and the "best young player" is whoever won the "Young Player of the Tournament" award. E.g. Donnarumma is listed as the "best player" in this article's infobox because he was awarded the "Player of the Tournament" award by UEFA. Similarly, UEFA consider Ronaldo to be the "top scorer" of Euro 2020 and so gave him the tournament's Golden Boot (named the Alipay Top Scorer Award for sponsorship reasons).
I already posted in that template's talk section to try to get some consensus, as this approach to listing whoever scored the same number of goals (and not the Golden Boot winner) is about 10 years out of date. Modern international cup tournaments use tie-breaking criteria to ensure only one player is designated the top scorer, just as they ensure only one player can receive other awards like "best player". Kronix1986 (talk) 23:38, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The purpose of the "top scorer" section of the infobox is not to show who was given a trophy, it's to show which players scored the most goals. Ronaldo and Schick scored the same number of goals, so they should both be listed equally. The tie-breakers UEFA used to determine which player got the trophy are irrelevant, and the "Awards" section at the bottom of the page is the right place to show which players won specific awards. The "best player" section of the infobox is a special case as it's not a statistical award, but given by consensus among journalists or executives. We are also not beholden to UEFA or any other governing body to give any special credence to their sponsored awards. – PeeJay15:47, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
In 2020, UEFA changed the rank system used in the past twenty years for final tournament group seeding, from the previously used UEFA National Team Coefficient to Overall ranking of the UEFA Euro qualification stage. While the previous ranking system awarded points for all matches played in the preceeding five year period, and usually did not differ much from the strength measured by the FIFA World Ranking, the newly introduced rank system only considered results of qualifying matches played in 2019.
According to the FIFA World Ranking (nov.2019), the biggest beneficiary and worst victim of this new ranking system was respectively Ukraine and Portugal. The two teams had been drawed to the same qualification group, and hence played two matches against each other for qualification in 2019. First match ended 0-0, and the second was won by Ukraine on hometurf. Hence Ukraine won the group ahead of Portugal, which meant Ukraine was seeded 6 (in the top-seeded pot) and Portugal only 13 (in the third pot). If Portugal had just scored one goal to win their opening qualifying match against Ukraine 1-0 in March 2019, then the ranking positions of Portugal and Ukraine for the final tournament would have been reversed, meaning Portugal would have been top-seeded as nr.6 and Ukraine seeded in the third pot as nr.13. Is it fair, that one absent goal is making such a huge ranking difference?
The group draw for the final tournament (having ranked Portugal only in the third pot), consequently resulted in the draw of a very strong group of death, featuring 3 teams from top15 of the FIFA World Ranking (nov.2019): France (2), Portugal (7), Germany (15). The FIFA World Ranking even improved ahead of the final tournament in July 2021 to: France (2), Portugal (5), Germany (12). Was it OK/fair, that Portugal was ranked so low, consequently being drawed into a group of death, consequently only ending as nr.3 in the group of death, and consequently meeting the highest ranked team (Belgium) already in the round of 16?
Portugal had consistently performed great in the years ahead of the Euro 2020:
Having re-read the above and checked the qualification pages, this comes across even more as a personal rant rather than encylopedic content. It is also partially false (if Portugal had won the first game 1-0 then Ukraine would have been ranked 12th and in the second pot) and supposes that all the other results would have remained the same. Teams would have played differently in later games if they had different points totals.
From 1960 to 1988 Ukraine competed as Soviet Union
From 1960 to 1988 the Soviet Union national football team played in 5 UEFA European Championships was Qualified team. In 1992 as CIS national football team. Ukraine was part of the USSR from 1922 to 1991. Many Ukrainian players played for the Soviet Union national football team and CIS national football team during this period. Please include in Previous appearances in tournaments for Ukraine - 1960, 1964, 1968, 1972, 1988, 1992. Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic was part USSR from 1922 to 1991 too. In Previous appearances in tournaments for Russian Federation - 1960, 1964, 1968, 1972, 1988, 1992. Another solution to the problem is the exclusion from the performances of the Russian Federation with the participation of another country of the USSR from 1960 to 1992. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ЛексВМ (talk • contribs) 18:19, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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