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I'm hoping to start a discussion here on a possible need for a "massacres" category. I have read the deletion debate here and invited comments from those who voted there.
I realise that there is a list of massacres at List of massacres, but what I fail to understand is why the category is deleted because use of the term is controversial, but the list stays - surely inclusion on the list is just as controversial, even if a list does allow explanations. I would find the category far more useful than the list - as an initial criteria, I would say that any article with the word "massacre" in the title (or a redirect to it with the word "massacre" in the title) should qualify for such a category.
And there is precedent for allowing categories with ambiguous wording. Such as this one here (Category:School massacres) and Category:Disasters. The precise definition of a disaster and the criteria can vary, but the category system is still useful as updating a list is untenable for open-ended historical events such as disasters and massacres.
So, provided there is a strict restriction (based on the title and whether an article survives AfD - ie. the normal Wikipedia balances and checks), is there any support for the recreation of Category:Massacres? Carcharoth11:42, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
In cases like this, there a two key differences between lists and categories:
Lists can qualify the "massacre-ness" of an event, e.g. given the number of victims and sort which use of the word "massacre" applies. Categories group everything together, from a 7 victim criminal shooting to a 7000 victim war crime.
Categories are invasive (appearing in the article), lists are not.
I strongly discourage re-creating Category:Massacres, also IMHO the "school masacres" should be re-named and re-classified as "school spree shootings".
The creation of suitable subcategories would also qualify the massacre-ness of an event. As for the intrusiveness of a category, that is no more intrusiveness than having "massacre" in the title of an article. I am more than happy for controverisial massacres to be omitted (eg. Kent State shootings) and to restrict this to articles with "massacre" in the title. The category blurb should also emphasise very strongly that this is a controversial term and that a fuller list, including genocides and other terms, is found at List of massacres. A good starting point would be categorising the articles (and redirects where helpful) on this automatically generated list here. Carcharoth12:07, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]