Talk:Ensign (LDS magazine)
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On 29 December 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Ensign (magazine). The result of the discussion was not moved. |
Pronounciation
[edit]The redundant and contradictory pronunciation description at the bottom of the article should be removed. I'm going to remove it unless there are objections. --Mailman-zero 04:50, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Biannual
[edit]Biannual means twice yearly. Biennial means once every two years. The conference edition comes out biannually—May and Nov. every year. I thought it was best to avoid the term "semiannual" since the church (incorrectly) calls one of its conferences during the year a "semiannual" conference and the other one an "annual" conference. Clearly, the should both be called "semiannual". Since that word in Mormonism is rife with confusion, I thought it better to stick with "biannual". Rich Uncle Skeleton (talk) 07:19, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- I checked Merriam-Webster's Online Dictionary. Here are the definitions from that web site for the adjective forms:
- Biannual: 1) occurring twice a year 2) biennial
- Biennial: 1) occurring every two years 2) continuing or lasting for two years
- Semiannual: occurring every six months or twice a year
- Which one do you think better matches the context in which it is used?
- Dealing with the terms the the church uses for its own conferences is a separate issue. — Val42 01:05, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Either "biannual" or "semiannual" is approrpriate for the context in which it's being used here, in my opinion. Many dictionaries are even beginning to drop the "biennial" meaning of "biannual", and I only ever see it currently used to mean "twice per year". But I also agree that if an LDS Church general conference is being referred to, it's best to use "biannual" to avoid the confusion with the specifically named "Semiannual G.C." of the church, which is just one of the conferences that occurs in October every year. But as Val says, this may not apply directly in this case as it's referring to editions of the magazine and not the conference itself. Snocrates 21:50, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Requested move 29 December 2024
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Frost 05:11, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
– The presence of a "The" disambiguates both plenty, and the addition of a hatnote to both pages would resolve any confusion. Both targets are currently redirects to their respective pages anyway; if this was truly necessary, both should've been retargeted to Ensign#Newspapers and magazines (though I don't much see the point of that either). And I don't think either are good dabs seeing as LDS is a dab page and doesn't lead directly to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints or any related pages, and USPS redirects to the United States Postal Service rather than the United States Power Squadrons which is the subject of the magazine. Altogether wrong and unnecessary. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 23:27, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose the absence of "The" at the least probably doesn't distinguish as the title with it is a spelling variant. Also the LDS one's long name appears to officially include the word "The". This isn't like Airplane! or The Wörld Is Yours where someone using the variant (exclamation mark or diacritic) could only be looking for that distinct topic. Given that "The" is sometimes lower cased in running text it is quite possible it wouldn't be possible to know if "The" was part of the name or not. I'm a supporter of WP:SMALLDETAILS but I don't think it applies here, instead the titles should probably be redirected back to the DAB page. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:11, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose: Per Crouch, the LDS magazine had a longer alternative title that started with "The", and has often been referred to as "The Ensign" or "the Ensign". I verified that some of the cited sources refer to it that way, as well as the Wikipedia article itself. — BarrelProof (talk) 20:20, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. Clearly ambiguous. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:04, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
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