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Andra Febrian, why did you move the page again to "Škoda Enyaq", it doesn't matter what is more popular in the search engines, the only and official name is "Škoda Enyaq iV", so do Czech or German language mutations. This is how Škoda labels electric cars, iV - inovativní/inteligentní vozidlo (innovative/intelligent vehicle). Jirka.h23 (talk) 08:47, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WP:COMMONNAME "Although official, scientific, birth, original, or trademarked names are often used for article titles, the term or name most typically used in reliable sources is generally preferred." Many English articles of the car skip the iV for some reason. - Andra Febrian (talk) 09:30, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

So I went through the English articles, and most refer to the name "Škoda Enyaq iV", the vast majority also include the term "Škoda Enyaq iV" in the text of the article. Don't you want to reconsider your opinion and rename the article back? I repeat again, the only and official name is "Škoda Enyaq iV" (compared to other Škoda models that do not contain suffixes). It's a well-established and used name. Jirka.h23 (talk) 05:30, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Andra Febrian, since you don't answer, I'm moving the page to the only correct and official name - Škoda Enyaq iV. The one used by many trusted sources.Jirka.h23 (talk) 12:43, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll walk you through WP:CRITERIA since you seem clueless.

Recognizability – The title is a name or description of the subject that someone familiar with, although not necessarily an expert in, the subject area will recognize. - "Škoda Enyaq" is familiar enough.
Naturalness – The title is one that readers are likely to look or search for and that editors would naturally use to link to the article from other articles. Such a title usually conveys what the subject is actually called in English. - "Škoda Enyaq" is more natural than "Škoda Enyaq iV".
Precision – The title unambiguously identifies the article's subject and distinguishes it from other subjects. - "Škoda Enyaq" is precise enough as there is no other Enyaq to confuse with, unlike, for example, the Škoda Citigo and Škoda Citigo iV.
Concision – The title is no longer than necessary to identify the article's subject and distinguish it from other subjects. - "Škoda Enyaq" is obviously the most concise
Consistency – The title is consistent with the pattern of similar articles' titles. - "Škoda Enyaq" is consistent with other Škoda articles.

WP:COMMONNAME: "Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it generally prefers the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable, English-language sources) as such names will usually best fit the five criteria listed above."

I'm not saying the title "Škoda Enyaq iV" is flat out wrong, but it is a step back regarding recognizability, naturalness and concision. And WP:COMMONNAME further exemplifies that official names does not matter. Andra Febrian (talk) 15:10, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As others remark, the name "Škoda Enyaq iV" is less potentially confusing (iV is an important distinction to make for Škoda vehicles) and far more consistent with other languages, other Škoda models, and other uses of the name of the car, which seems to be Škoda Enyaq iV more often. "Škoda Enyaq" should simply redirect to "Škoda Enyaq iV".

Somebody should consider move-protecting this page to stop the move war. Blakel252 (talk) 16:09, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Andra Febrian, I could reverse it:

Recognizability – The title is a name or description of the subject that someone familiar with, the subject area will recognize. - "Škoda Enyaq iV" is familiar enough.
Naturalness – The title is one that readers are likely to look or search for and that editors would naturally use to link to the article from other articles. Such a title usually conveys what the subject is actually called in English. - "Škoda Enyaq iV" is more natural than "Škoda Enyaq".
Precision – "Škoda Enyaq iV" is the only precise name, so it should be used.
Concision – "Škoda Enyaq iV" is obviously the most concise
Consistency – The title is consistent with the pattern of similar articles' titles. - "Škoda Enyaq iV" is consistent with other Škoda articles and other language mutations.

WP:COMMONNAME: "Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it generally prefers the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable, English-language sources) as such names will usually best fit the five criteria listed above." - which is "Škoda Enyaq iV".

You didn't answer me at all, when I wrote that most English articles refer to the name: "Škoda Enyaq iV" and the vast majority also include the term "Škoda Enyaq iV" in the text of the article1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 and i can continue. The fact that you want the article to be called something doesn't matter at all, the most important thing is the official name, so I warn you not to rename the article back again.Jirka.h23 (talk) 06:58, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Before we got a reply from Andra, a change came, the name with iV is no longer officially used. The discussion about moving the article is therefore pointless.Jirka.h23 (talk) 06:26, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]