Talk:A New World (The Flash)

Bad article

This article shouldn't even be created. We don't usually create an article about 4 episodes. These weren't released together and aren't any different than any other Flash storyline. Gonnym (talk) 19:23, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Gorrila City, Crisis, Invasion. Its not just a four part event its the finale of the Arrowverse as a whole, OLI 20:50, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

There also literaly titled parts 1-4 OLI 03:26, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Main space?

Its ready for the main space in my opinion. Although it could still use some critique to work out. OLI 04:27, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 09:34, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that The Flash's "A New World" is the conclusion to the Arrowverse which lasted eleven years? Source: https://thedirect.com/article/arrowverse-finale-the-cw
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Created by OlifanofmrTennant (talk). Self-nominated at 19:17, 31 May 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/A New World (The Flash); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Was created in the last 7 days: No.
• Was expanded fivefold in the last 7 days: No.
  • It came to my attention that the article was made in May, and was new enough at the time of nomination, my bad.
• Hook could be improved; this page says to avoid hooks that take the form of "... that X is Y?"

The article seems fine, but the hook could use some work to be more interesting and not fit the "X is Y" mold. I'm not sure if the nominator needs to do QPQ or not because I don't know how many noms they've done. This is my first time reviewing a DYK nomination, so if I made a mistake, please let me know. Di (they-them) (talk) 17:40, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

@Di (they-them): QPQ checker suggests that they have no prior DYK nominations, so a QPQ is not required. I can take a look and suggest a new hook if you want. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:01, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

• ... ALT0a: that The Flash's "A New World" served as the conclusion to the Arrowverse a television franchise that lasted eleven years? Source: https://thedirect.com/article/arrowverse-finale-the-cw
  • Reviewed: Better hook, works now. Di (they-them) (talk) 04:12, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

I do apologize, but a full review of the nomination has yet to be done. In addition to not doing all the checks apart from newness (so length, plagiarism, etc.), there also has yet to be a full review of the hook apart from interest. How it is presented in the article and the sourcing for it also needs to be checked. Finally, I disagree that the new hook is interesting to a broad audience: it doesn't really say much about the subject, and honestly just saying that it's the conclusion to a series seems rather pedestrian by hook standards. Being not too familiar with the series, I'm unable to give suggestions, but surely there's a better hook that can be used based on the article? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:00, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

• As Di didn't respond to the above, another editor will probably be needed to complete the review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:03, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

• New enough, long enough, OK sourcing, no huge issues with tone after copyedit. Earwig only shows stealing from Wikipedia. Suggestions for improvement: The critical reception section is pretty bare bones if you care to expand it; and since there's time travel involved, should the plot summary begin (e.g.) "In 2023, ..."? I have only name familiarity with the Arrowverse but think the hook is interesting enough as is – the TV series finale as the conclusion of a multi-series universe. That said, I'd tighten up the phrasing:

• ALT0b: ... that The Flash's "A New World" concluded the eleven-year Arrowverse television franchise?

@Narutolovehinata5, proposing this alternate hook as well:

• ALT1: ... that episodes of Angel, Lost, and The Office inspired the writer of The Flash series finale?

Source: "Before sitting down to even conceptualize and write this, I watched a whole bunch of series finales, and I'll tell you the ones I loved and used as inspiration: Lost, Angel, and The Office, ironically" Hameltion (talk | contribs) 13:39, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5, I think that this hook is nice and a good way to slim it down. I will work on improving the article. As the original proposerof the hook I agree with this one. OLI` — Preceding undated comment added 01:37, 12 July 2023‎ (UTC)