Talk:Anti-Japaneseism

WP:NPOV?

The wording in this article is extremely suspicious.

• Anti-Japaneseism radicalized this argument by claiming that even communist revolution could not redeem Japan because the Japanese themselves possess an inherent "aggressive nature".
• Proponents of this theory believe that the only way to redeem oneself from the "oppressor and criminal Japanese race" is to fight against all Japanese interests until the "Japanese" archipelago has been purged of anything Japanese.
• The so-called "final solution" of Anti-Japaneseism is to wipe the nation called "Japan" from the face of the earth and exterminate the Japanese race.
• A section titled: Strategy to extinguish Japanese ethnicity

There's a genuine possibility this could be neutral but I'm going to use my Occam's razor here and say that either:

• This is a hoax.
• This is an ideology that is so radically fringe, with so few members, that it doesn't meet Wikipedia's notability standards.
• It is, in some way, being inaccurately represented.

I have full confidence that, considering this article is only linked to by eleven actual articles that are, for the most part, obscure topics themselves, this article is not going to have enough traffic to be source-vetted by a native Japanese speaker. Despite this, it seems to have been linked to or cited on numerous online sources where some degree of political discussion, however immature, is bound to take place. For this reason, I'm going to copy-paste this message onto the NPOV noticeboard so someone more knowledgeable than me can take a look at the issue.

96.55.212.210 (talk) 22:11, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

This article was translated from the corresponding article on Japanese Wikipedia. A machine-translated version can be found here. (Do note, however, that Google Translate seems to have done a poor job, badly mangling the article.) One thing to note is that the original Japanese Wikipedia page has a template saying that page numbers or section titles need to be added to the inline citations. Jancarcu (talk) 01:43, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

I had the exact same instinct as you. I suspect there's some truth to the article (the Japanese left during that period especially had a lot of oddballs) but the wording seems to push over the line of avoidably POV on a number of occasions. seefooddiet (talk) 14:16, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

I'll also note the Japanese Wikipedia is pretty hostile to the left and very often nationalist. Posts on 5ch frantically examine other users for any signs of being sympathetic to the left, meanwhile they don't apply the same scrutiny to right-wing users or attempt to undo their POV. seefooddiet (talk) 21:30, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Old left

The intro has a mention of the old left, is there an article we can link that to? RJFJR (talk) 16:20, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Heavy copyedits needed

This article, which is a translation from Japanese, needs heavy copyediting for style and organization. Here are what I think are the most major problems:

1. The distinction made between Anti-Japaneseism and Anti-Japanism that the heading of section 1 alludes to is not elaborated on in section 1 itself. The a lack of English language sources that distinguish Anti-Japaneseism and Anti-Japanism as terms only adds to the confusion as to what this distinction is supposed to be. The original Japanese article does not help since it has no section whose heading corresponds to the heading of section 1. French Wikipedia appears to use its equivalent section to distinguish between Anti-Japaneseism (which is confusingly translated as Anti-Japonisme, the equivalent of Anti-Japanism, which is what EN section 1 is trying to distinguish Anti-Japaneseism from) and "nipponophobie" (anti-Japanese prejudice/sentiments), which might make more sense as a distinction, since "Anti-Japanism" is not a commonly-used word.

2. Referring to ideological views as "theories" is a bit awkward. 論 is used more liberally in kanji culture sphere languages than "theory" is in English.

If there are no objections, I might try to retranslate the article from Japanese Wikipedia while also consulting the other Wikipedias. The Chinese Wikipedia page is of no use because it doesn't have any sources. The French Wikipedia page was also translated from the Japanese Wikipedia page, but it looks as though it has been copyedited a bit to sound less awkward. --DaysonZhang (talk) 04:12, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Update: I'm deciding to be WP:BOLD. 論 will now be translated as words like "ideology" or "claim" depending on the context. --DaysonZhang (talk) 04:14, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Please somebody add it to THE LIST i beg you. — Preceding unsigned.78.10.84.37 (talk) 18:41, 24 January 2022 (UTC)