Talk:ArenaNet

Controversy NPOV

I really don't think the current paragraph starting with "Nathan Grayson..." in any way obeys NPOV. In particular, it completely glosses over the response from O'Brien, portraying him like some sort of comic-book supervillain (firing them was 'regretable', in some nice scare-quotes). It ignores the previous behavior of Price, and portrays the GW2 community as an Evil Boogeyman™ that's out to get the poor developers. It completely ignores what actually happened between the developers and the community member ("heated" is a pretty poor way of glossing over having to actually explain anything). In particular, I've personally got an issue with this because of ArenaNet's history of supporting inclusive behavior (multiple LGBT characters, as well as a pride parade every year)

I notice that the account that re-included this paragraph it is now banned, but I don't want to get into a revert war. Are we okay with removing or at least rephrasing it? 2601:4A:C001:87A0:5B3:C8C:1F7F:D20D (talk) 20:34, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Just responding to let everyone know the above comment was posted by me, Newms34 (talk) 20:35, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

For me, I think that section meets both WP:BALANCE & WP:IMPARTIAL. The first paragraph starts with what occurred, then states that there was mixed reactions before going into Mike O'Brien's (co-founder of ArenaNet) view on why the firing was necessary. Then in the second paragraph (starting with "Nathan Grayson...") is the other view on the firing, the fallout in the broader community and the reporting done on the case by reliable sources. The last paragraph is simply that this controversy made some end of year roundups on websites that report on this industry. Without the second paragraph, the controversy looses key context and doesn't seem like a controversy. To remove or reduce it would mean the section looses neutrality (and leans towards benefiting just ArenaNet). Sariel Xilo (talk) 21:14, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Newms34 If you can find reliable sources on their inclusive behavior, I think that would definitely benefit the article (either under a specific game title or in the history section). I just added that Guild Wars 2: Path of Fire received a GLAAD Media Award nomination Sariel Xilo (talk) 21:51, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

A few additions to this section: A) Context is important. While this references gamergate and such elements surely rustled some arms at this situation later on, those people are unlikely to play GW2 and players of GW2 are not very representative of that movement. The game and the company behind are considered very much on the side of the identity politics that Price espouses and much of the blowback came from players criticizing Price for poisoning women's issues by hiding her behaviour behind them. The events took place on the 4th of july and while Price's state of inebriation was never discussed, Fries' admittedly made his public remarks about his place of work while intoxicated and at a party. B) Phrasing is important. There was no argument, the only person arguing was Price. Her target did respond, but only to apologize (more on this later). C) Perspective is important. The section and its media sources refers to Deroir as a player and streamer. However, he was also an ArenaNet partner at the time and could equally be seen as interm, at the same studio where Price and Fries worked, being abused by full term employees. D) The best lies are half truths. The section and the sources only source the beginning of the exchange. The initial exchange saw little attention from the playerbase of the game. In fact, it was only when Price continued to abuse Deroir (as he was profusely apologizing for having drawn her ire) that other people began responding to the exchange in notable numbers. This was important for the issue gaining traction but has been conveniently left out. E) The primary source is Price's own Twitter and if the whole exchange is no longer available then the media articles referring to it quickly lose their reliability. For example, narrative in this section and the media articles is that player agency can drive employment and termination (swiftly), but according to Price's own Twitter at the time, she was not immidiately fired but rather called to a meeting with her boss. She later complained about being asked to apologize for her behaviour and ridiculed her boss' handling of the situation. Speaking to juniors and seniors at your place of work in that manner and in that state of inebriation is far more likely the grounds for their termination than players, customers, Reddit posters or misogynist Internet movements holding game studios in a vice.

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Lack of info

There is no information about cancelled projects, no any info about current CEO. --2A00:1370:817C:35E0:64F9:AFFD:3DB3:5FA1 (talk) 09:49, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Problem with Mount

Maybe you can help - I play Guildwars 2 on STEAM - I just bought a mount (Scared Pegasus) I I've tried for quite a while to get to ride it but am getting noware I paid $52.73 (Canadian for it) but I don't really want a refund for it. Being playing this game for a long time and it is actually the secend mount I bought and never got access to that one either. So if you can help. Mateau (talk) 17:38, 5 April 2023 (UTC)