Talk:Armorial of schools in England

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Notes for Other Editors

The original article is Armorial of schools in the United Kingdom. The England section grew impractically large so I moved it to a separate page and divided the list according to region. Otherwise the directives are the same as before:

Universities and other higher education institutions have been done on a different page. This page is for primary and secondary education.
A lot of schools have logo designs of a pseudo-heraldic nature, in a shield shape but not conforming to the rules. To be on this page the device must actually be a shield of arms - even if assumed - which can be properly blazoned.
Some of the schools have changed their name, merged, split or dissolved entirely since becoming armigerous. Entries are styled as was correct at the time of matriculation.
Fair use is not accepted on pages like this, so if a non-free image is used on the institution's own article (such as copied from its website) it must be recreated as a free image for this one.

Robin S. Taylor (talk) 13:20, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fair Use

Please see below - alert and notification of removal of images because on non-compliance with WP:NFLISTS

Greetings. I've just removed 42 non-free files from Armorial of schools in England. Please be aware of WP:NFLISTS. We do not generally allow an article of this type to have non-free files used in this way. Your addition of these images resulted in this article using more non-free content than any other article on the entire project of over 6 million articles but one. We do not use non-free imagery in this way. I'll be making a similar removal at Armorial of British universities, as the additions of non-free files there made it the 3rd highest article in terms of non-free image use.

Also, while I appreciate your attempt to comply with WP:NFCC #10c in adding rationales for use such as you did here, a purpose of use that is "Logo is used for illustration" is insufficient. If the only requirement that we had for using non-free files here is that we are using them for illustration, there would be absolutely no limitation on the use of non-free images.

I'm sorry to undo your work, but this is a necessary thing. If you have questions about this, let me know. Thanks, --Hammersoft (talk) 12:49, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

I would be interested in other editors opinions on this, specifically with regard to the following:
a) the article may be the largest or smallest user of non-free images - this is irrelevant
b) if the rationale is 'insufficent', it can for sure be strengthened, recognising that heraldry is a visual art form and as such an image is essential to the exposition
c) WP:NFLISTS does not prohibit using multiple non-free images, it states they 'should be used judiciously'. I contend this is the case here
Hjamesberglen (talk) 10:43, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Given that this talk page has seen 13 pageviews in the last year [1], it's highly unlikely we'll have anything other than a 50/50 disagreement on this point. I've started a discussion at WT:NFC on this point, where there are considerably more eyes to evaluate this. See the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content#Use_of_non-free_files_in_list_articles. --Hammersoft (talk) 13:33, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion

The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion:

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