Talk:Burkhan Khaldun

Burkhan Khaldun was one of the Geography and places good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
June 29, 2016	Good article nominee	Listed
January 27, 2024	Good article reassessment	Delisted

Current status: Delisted good article

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A fact from Burkhan Khaldun appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 9 December 2015 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Burkhan Khaldun mountain and/or its proximity are believed to be the birthplace of Genghis Khan, as well as the purported location of his tomb?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2015/December. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Burkhan Khaldun.

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meaning of the name

what's the source for saying the meaning is "god Khaldun" and not, say, "god-khaldun"? Wouldn't "god Khaldun" look more like "Khaldun Burkhan" instead the other way round? I admit that my Mongolian is not very good, but I don't think this is so obvious. Yaan (talk) 11:01, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Burhan does not mean "god" at all. Burhan means Buddha while Buddha isn't a god. As my teacher taught us (if I were listening carefully and didn't misunderstand), double "d" in ancient Sanskrit was pronounced as 'r". So it sounded like Burha, and 'n' was added in the course of the evolution of the word^[1].

IMHO, the word Buddha is related with the root of the Russian word budit' (будить) meaning "to awaken" (I didn't say Sanskrit comes from Russian, please don't misunderstand). Burhan or Buddha is an awakened person, enlightened person, who has discovered to himself the meaning of the existence. Such person enters nirvana after passing away. Or postpones this process to lead the other sentient beings to enlightenment and becomes a Bodhisattva. Nirvana is a state of liberation from samsara.

There are six realms in samsara and the highest is the realm of gods. They live very long that for humans their lives seem to be eternal. Very virtuous humans may go to the god realm after death. Gods are not free from nisvanis and samsara. They eventually use out all the virtue they collected in all past lives. When they die, they have no more virtue remained but sins and fall directly to the hell realm. In Mongolian, "god" is "tenger". It's different from "sky" -- "tengri". Some of the gods (Jehovah?, Krishna?) claim to have created the world. In fact, the world isn't created by any creature, it forms as a result of the collective karma of all sentient beings. Its future also depends on the karma of all of us.

All this was narrated to explain the difference between god (tenger) and Burhan.

The Mountain Otgon Tenger -- yes, that's "the Youngest God". Gantuya eng (talk) 14:55, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

^ http://www.mglclub.com/?document_srl=613360&mid=forum13&sort_index=readed_count&order_type=desc

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Burkhan Khaldun/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Sainsf (talk · contribs) 13:51, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

General

GA toolbox checks out
Say either Genghis Khan or Chinggis Khan consistently
- Used Genghis Khan

Lead

on July 4, 2015 DMY date
- Had missed it

Geography

means the "God Mountain" In which language?
- Done
Wikilink Pacific Ocean
- Linked

History

Not relevant to this article: also spelled Chinggis Khan, whose original name was Temujin
- Deleted
a most sacred mountain Say "highly" instead of "most"
- Changed
“Secret History of the Mongols” Italics, no quotes
- Done
mention twenty-seven times "27" would be less wordy
- Done

Flora

The correct wikilink is Taiga
- Linked

Fauna

five species of ungulate, one species of reptile ungulates, reptiles
- Corrected
The names of all animals need not be capitalized. See their articles and use the proper punctuation
- I don't know how I missed the obvious. Done now

Thanks for the review. Addressed all the above issues. Let me know if I have left out anything.Nvvchar. 15:22, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, promoted. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 18:24, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks.Nvvchar. 01:35, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

GA Reassessment

Burkhan Khaldun

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Result: Delisted. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:55, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This 2016 listing has degraded significantly - it contains uncited material and relies on some unreliable sources. I intend to restore this article, but it will need a full, top-to-bottom rewrite. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:48, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It has been eight years since this was listed. Surprised a 8-year old GA listing would be on the reassessment despite being fairly new. probably Keep if fixed GabrielPenn4223 (talk) 17:55, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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