Talk:COVID-19 protests in Australia/Archive 1

Individual state pages

@Andykatib:
A lot of this content was likely added to to the COVID-19 pandemic in Australia page by me, but if you haven't checked yet, there may be more detail on the individual state pages where I also added content about the protests.
IIRC I put the most detailed content there, and a more general coverage on the 'Australia' page.
Regards, 220 of ^ßorg 15:52, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks 220 of Borg, will also check the individual state pages. The COVID-19 pandemic in Australia page was getting pretty long so I thought it will be a good idea to create a separate article focusing on the protests. Andykatib (talk) 20:42, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Andykatib, no próblēmó, you may be able to add more detail than a general article would. I think there was another horse hit in an August protest, and one was ridden around in the NSW/Qld border protest.

I've been considering a page myself just on the Delta outbreak here, or even just a seperate deaths/cases graph/s. It's hit record new daily cases for NSW & Australia very recently, more than doubled NSWs' deaths.

I see NZ has had a protest page for nearly a year. 220 of ^ßorg 08:36, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks 220 of Borg, I agree that a specialist article on the protests will be able to add more detail than a general article. Someone created the NZ protests article last year and it's been useful for tracking the protests there. Regarding the Delta outbreak cluster in NSW, I'm not too sure about that. Maybe check with the other Australian editors to see if it merits one. Andykatib (talk) 00:24, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Images/Videos

Would there be an interest in photos and videos of the recent protests in Melbourne? I have some I took personally and others from various news outlets.

Yep definitely. Photos and videos really improve the article. They can capture moments. Also videos, along with their audio can really convey the sentiment/how people felt at these protests. Neb (talk) 07:57, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Harrison Mclean

I'm not sure that Mclean is notable enough to warrant mentioning his arrest, hence [1]. He now has a (recently-created) article - Harrison Mclean - but I'm still not sure that he's notable enough for a mention or an article. Do any other editors have an opinion on the matter? Mitch Ames (talk) 12:42, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

@Mitch Ames: No, not notable enough for a mention, nor for article. Betterkeks (talk) 23:23, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

@Mitch Ames: If newspaper reports are correct that his Telegram user name is "Dominic D" his already in the article in the Groups section. I think the organisers are worthy of a very brief mention. The article mentions three organisers being charged/prosecution: "28-year-old woman was arrested and charged", "One man, the organiser" and "One of its main organisers". If he was included, Monica Smit is another person also charged in Victoria as being an organiser, that could be included.--Melbguy05 (talk) 12:28, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Note the AfD closed as redirect to here. Up to editorial consensus on this talk page as to whether to include the content in the article here or not. Daniel (talk) 23:16, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

If Harrison Mclean redirects to COVID-19 protests in Australia, which it now does, the latter article should probably mention him (per WP:R#PLA), which it currently does not. Mitch Ames (talk) 23:32, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harrison Mclean

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harrison Mclean. DanCherek (talk) 14:41, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

I am placing this notification per WP:APPNOTE: The talk page of one or more directly related articles. DanCherek (talk) 14:41, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Map of NZ

@Baba Mica: Article is about Australia, but the map (added here) is New Zealand. Mitch Ames (talk) 03:35, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Article it's about Australia but showing New Zealand map Paweł K (talk) 11:45, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Convoy to Canberra

@Andykatib: You may be interested in my edits here, about the 'Convoy to Canberra' protest, on the COVID-19 pandemic in the Australian Capital Territory page. There might be some details/ references you could use here.
• Shouldn't the Canberra protests here be in an ACT section, rather than 'National'? Regards, --220 of ^ßorg 09:54, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

• Hi @220 of Borg:, thanks for your suggestions. I could draw upon that material from COVID-19 pandemic in the Australian Capital Territory. Open to moving the "Convoy to Canberra" protest to the ACT section. It needs work. I am also open to creating a Convoy to Canberra article with the "COVID-19 protests in Australia" article having a condensed version. Let me know what you think. Andykatib 11:03, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

@Andykatib: Not sure if the convoy is notable enough on it's own, but you're free to create a page. I have recently found that due to 'real life' changes I have a lot less editing time available so I won't be able to assist much. 220 of ^ßorg 08:23, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@220 of Borg: Okay, no worries. Will let the Convoy section in the COVID-19 protests grow and then we can decide later whether it can be spunned off into its own article. Understand that real life changes can be busy. Have been juggling some other work and life commitments as well. Cheers. Andykatib 08:45, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@220 of Borg: Have created the Convoy to Canberra page. Feel free to check it out. Managed to add content from the COVID-19 pandemic in the Australian Capital Territory article. Andykatib 11:45, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Re: Commissioner and missing deaths.

Victoria Police Assistant Commissioner Luke Cornelius said he was outraged that there were people in the community who thought it was a good idea to leave home and mass protest during a time of a deadly pandemic. Charges against the woman were dropped by police in mid 2022, a statement by police stated it was 'not in the public interest' to continue the prosecution. 

It's probably notable that the same commissioner and same police were A-OK with the Black Lives Matter / George Floyd protests that took place during even more extreme measures of lockdown. None of them were injured, the police escorted, assisted, and enabled that protest and helped stop traffic. But I digress.

I came here trying to find info about the young man who died at the war memorial where the protestors took cover from police opening fire on them. He had his skull crushed, and was bleeding from every orifice. The police did this to him, then left the scene without rendering aid. He was found later by random protestors who attended to clean up the blood of protestors and 40 mm grenades and other plastic refuse the police left behind, many of whom filmed his last moments, during which he tried to explain that the police just attacked everyone and were incredibly violent. He died before finishing his story, and emergency services flat refused to respond when called. This was all documented and available online from multiple independent sources but as of about 2-3 months afterwards it was memory holed and nothing about it can be found through Google anymore.

I was wondering if anyone remembers this young man's name, he mentioned it at the start of the video, and briefly mentioned it again before he died because he didn't want to be John Doe. Whilst every protestor who attended the war memorial aftermath to volunteer and help clean up the blood of all the protestors from the police brutality remembers this young man it appears that the rest of the public, and history, has been enticed to forget him.

What happened that day haunts me, and seeing that young man die for no reason other than poor impulse control from law enforcement will haunt me until the day I die. Never in all my years. If anyone remembers his name, or has more details, could they please add it here or to the article? 2001:8003:2964:AF00:C447:CB81:7016:4F1B (talk) 01:59, 12 June 2023 (UTC)