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Proposal to delete reference to entering the blood royal upon marriage to Margaret de Fiennes:
If it is true that Edmund's paternal grandmother Gwladus Ddu was the legitimate daughter of Joan Plantagenet, which there apparently is sufficient evidence to conclude that it is at least a realistic possibility, then to say that the Mortimer family "entered the blood royal" upon Edmund's marriage to Margaret de Fiennes may not be a correct statement, since Edmund's father, Roger Mortimer would then be the great-grandson of King John. I would therefore recommend that we remove this language until it can be conclusively proven that Gwladus Ddu was the daughter of Llewylyn's mistress Tangwystl Goch. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ekvcpa (talk • contribs) 07:01, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]