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Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: No consensus, page not moved Ronhjones ^(Talk) 22:39, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Golden Lion → Golden Lion for Best Film — This article is about the Golden Lion for Best Film, not about the Golden Lion award. Golden Lions are prizes awarded by La Biennale di Venezia in the fields of art, architecture, dance, music, theatre and, yes, cinema. Therefore, the Golden Lion for Best Film is only one of many Golden Lions. Relisted. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 14:36, 30 July 2010 (UTC) --Quarconi (talk) 08:33, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Agree that there are several Golden Lions, but this one is the primary topic and I suspect the average person would read "Golden Lion" and "Golden Lion for Best Film" as one and the same. The Italian article is simply "Leone d'oro" and not what the Italian equivalent of "best film" is tagged onto the end. Would maybe support the move if the other Golden Lion awards had articles too. Also compare with Palme d'Or and Palme d'Or du court métrage. Lugnuts (talk) 06:43, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support and allow a Golden Lion creation of an overview article to sit at the short name. 76.66.193.119 (talk) 03:49, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Jud Süß (1940 film)

Jud Süß (1940 film) was awarded the Golden Lion award in September 1940. There appears to be no films listed in this article prior to 1949. Is there a reason for this? --Pseudo-Richard (talk) 06:26, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Move page?

It is an Italian award, with an Italian name. Shouldn't the page be moved to its Italian name? Look at Palme d'Or. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 16:21, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In English-language publications, the award is usually referred to as the "Golden Lion". Even the Venice festival's official web page appears to use "Golden Lion" (not Leone d'oro) in its English pages [1]. By contrast, English-language sources generally call the award from Cannes by its French name, the Palme d'Or. Mathew5000 (talk) 00:33, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Guillermo del Toro, nationality

The winner of the 2017 Award, Guillermo del Toro is mexican. He might have also the US citizenship, but anyway the column in the winners table reads "Country of Origin". Guillermo was born in Mexico, he studied in Mexico, and made all his first cinematographic projects in Mexico. I think his "country of origin" should be listed as Mexico and not the US. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.152.125.236 (talk) 15:50, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Division by decades

I think that the changes done by User talk:Michael 182 need to be included back into this article, as they allow a better comprehension of the text and would make it consistent with the other Venice Film Festival pages. 181.170.26.9 (talk) 14:54, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The way the list is formatted allows sorting throughout and I think it should be kept this way and not split in decades, as has been attempeted and reverted various times in similar award articles. Hoverfish Talk 15:22, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Could you explain better what you mean by "allows sorting throughout"? 190.19.10.99 (talk) 12:46, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The tables of film awards are sortable, so they can be sorted either chronologically by year or by film title or by name of director. This table sorting property may not be important when dealing with best actor/actress (and therefore I have not interfered in splitting these tables by decades), but it is deemed needed in film award tables. I remind you that the issue has already been brought up in WikiProject Film and consensus is clearly agaist splitting by decades [2]. Hoverfish Talk 18:29, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So if these kind of film award table cannot be divided by decades, then why do articles like the Golden Globe Award for Best Foreign Language Film, which also presents international films, it's divided by decades?. Also, the link that you added to your explanation doesn't show an actual discussion of the subject at hand, so you can't argue that there's overall consensus on this idea. 190.19.10.99 (talk) 21:03, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The article you mention has different sections for different decades. I thought this article was all awards in one single table? The Rambling Man (talk) 21:34, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It is true that in the article that I mention there are different sections for different decades. What I'm trying to understand is why the Golden Globe Award article, which handles a similar topic than this one, can be divided by decades while this one can't, as they are both structured in a similar way except for the sections for decades. 190.19.10.99 (talk) 22:20, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Different articles written by different people. Sometimes there's a project style guide which defines how "best" to format articles about a common subject, not sure if that's the case here. Either way, articles about similar subjects are often formatted differently. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:25, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Can we agree that, even though these articles have been written by different people, the format in the Golden Globe Award for Best Foreign Language Film could be applied in this one, if the other users don't have any problems with it? 190.19.10.99 (talk) 22:42, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone answer the question I've just made before? 190.19.10.99 (talk) 01:27, 17 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As I said below, I do not agree. On the contrary, I think the format presently existing in this article should be applied to Golden Globe Award for Best Foreign Language Film. Hoverfish Talk 10:28, 17 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The link didn't work, my fault, but I fixed it now. This is the link of the thread in WikiProject Film. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Film/Archive_67#User_splitting_award_lists_by_decades_&_disabling_sortability I warn you against ignoring this consensus. Hoverfish Talk 23:40, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

After reading through the link, there doesn't seem to be a clear consensus about these subject but a misunderstanding about what it is being discussed. Therefore, I suggest that we apply the changes than I'm prposing so that other people,not just you, can later comment on what they think of them. 190.19.10.99 (talk) 18:32, 17 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I count 4 editors, including me in the linked discussion arguing for sortability and against splitting the tables. In this thread, here below, I count one more editor who prefers sortability. This makes 5 against 1. It is you who is "just you" in this. Hoverfish Talk 00:54, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In reality, in the discussion that you are pointing out, one of the editors seemed to be refering to a differnt kind of division of tables that is not the same as what it is being discussed while AldezD didn't formally express his opinion on the subject. The only one in the discussion who did was you. Therefore, if you count The Rambling Man, there is only 2 against 1. You can't really say that you speak for the majority of the users. Therefore, I repeat the suggestion I've made before of changing the format so that other people can have a say in this subject. 190.19.10.99 (talk) 02:29, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@AldezD: (since the username has been mentioned) Hoverfish Talk 11:50, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You commented earlier in an archived talk page. I copied your comment in the active project talk page: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Film#Again_the_issue_of_splitting_film_award_articles_by_decade. Please discuss there. Hoverfish Talk 02:59, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sortability folks. The Rambling Man (talk) 23:42, 16 February 2018 (UTC) I agree with The Rambling Man. It would be better to have all films in Golden Globe Award for Best Foreign Language Film placed in one sortable table. Hoverfish Talk 00:35, 17 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Completely separate from the above, the flag icons likely violate MOS:FLAGS. --Masem (t) 12:54, 17 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Flag icons removed by MOS:FLAGS. Hoverfish Talk 17:38, 17 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Chloé Zhao, nationality

She's credited here as one of seven Americans to win, but she has repeatedly stated she's not American. 147.12.230.31 (talk) 01:10, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Why are Chloé Zhao and Ang Lee listed as American? Chloé Zhao's legal nationality is unclear, but it's definitely not American. Ang Lee is Taiwanese. 24 March 2024 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7C:5B34:2700:6867:B791:243:28BB (talk) 23:09, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]