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Most of AMGMichael's recent contribution appears to relate to the early history of the Midland Railway and Derby Station - I am doubtful of the relevance of duplicating much of this material in this article? --Lang rabbie 23:12, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Number of Stations

Surely if you count the two West Bridge stations as separate (which I think you should) you should also count Campbell Street and the Midland as separate, making 9 in total. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.65.106.172 (talk) 17:41, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well list them in the article and stop complaining! 70.52.182.202 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:44, 28 July 2009 (UTC).[reply]

Merge from Leicester Campbell Street railway station

I suggest that Leicester Campbell Street railway station be merged into this article. The current station is on the same site as Campbell Street station. Whilst it is true that it's been subject to significant enlargement and rebuilding, that doesn't normally warrant two articles. Butt (1995) treats them as the same station, renamed three times: Leicester opd. 5 May 1840, ren. Leicester Campbell Street 1 June 1867, ren. Leicester London Road 12 June 1892, ren. Leicester 5 May 1969. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:20, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom and a reading of the two articles. --Tagishsimon (talk) 19:28, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support as per Tagishsimon. NtheP (talk) 19:39, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support as per NtheP. Ning-ning (talk) 20:36, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral, would probably hope to see more research/references before a decision. Note: we have Nottingham Carrington Street railway station and Nottingham (Midland) railway station. The address of the latter, present station being … Carrington Street (although now the eastern side). —Sladen (talk) 23:14, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The distinction would be same site versus different site, non? --Tagishsimon (talk) 23:17, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Also, Butt treats the two Nottingham stations as distinct entities - whilst he names the Midland Counties station as "Nottingham The Meadows", not "Nottingham Carrington Street", he notes this as "CL 22 May 1848 [Original terminus; replaced by Nottingham (Mid) station]" - the present station is shown as "OP 22 May 1848 ... [Replaced Nottingham The Meadows]". Writing in 1842, Whishaw (one of the two sources given for Nottingham Carrington Street railway station) naturally has no knowledge of events that took place in 1848, but nowhere does he use the name "Carrington Street", merely writing "[the] Nottingham station". --Redrose64 (talk) 09:57, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support as per {{Quick-Stations}} which groups Campbell St with London Rd (p. 244). The situation is different for Carrington St in that it comes with the following mention under Nottingham Midland - "original terminus was in Carrington St [...] replaced by through station in Station Street 22 May 1848" (p. 297). This tends to indicate that Carrington St was a separate and distinct station. Lamberhurst (talk) 17:31, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Support as both stations were on exactly the same site, and for other reasons previously mentioned. Lukeno94 (talk) 09:33, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Leicester Campbell street station wikipedia page should be merged with the Leicester railway wikipedia page because it is missleading in the fact it is the same station, the only difference is the entrance has changed from the Station Street location( vertical to the tracks at the side of the London road) to being relocated as a vertical southern entrance built on London Road Bridge. The photo evidence clearly shows that this is the same picture the photo showing in the early 1890's two entraces one on London Road and the other due for demoloishion on the station street, with St Stephens church on the corner. but the photo yet to be de classified as public by John Gough head of the Britishrailway historical society formally head of British canels historic society he may still be head so asking him would get you some photos of leiecster station you never dreamed off.the pages should merge because it gives reference that there was a different station in leiecster that was demolished and i can imaging leicester city council would see this as bad for there history because they way they see it is that the "station you see today has been there since the building started in in 1838 not the 1890's and is bad for Leicesters history" John Johnstone Smith (talk) 07:16, 11 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Given that this received six supports and no opposes in the three years since it was opened, how come nothing's happened yet? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.200.225.13 (talk) 22:41, 18 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Because we're waiting for you to do it :) NewYorkActuary (talk) 14:47, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Rebuilding and other issues

I have removed the following text from the lead:

(Platform roofs)1883( Metal Swain Street bridge replacing Fox Street bridge)1899(New London Road Bridge Entrance replacing the Station Street located entrance called Campbell Street Station)

because it is misplaced (the introduction should summarise the article, and should not therefore contain more detail than the main body of text). It is also poorly written and completely unsourced; I have also reverted certain recent changes to the section "The station buildings" which are also of doubtful provenance - in the case of the paragraph beginning "The Midland Railway completely rebuilt the station", material that was sourced was changed without explanation. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:34, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

i disagree because it is a missinterpretation because building work started in 1899 on the new london road bridge entrance and swain street bridge was rebuilt in 1893 the glass roofs went on in 1894 , it should say was complete by 1894, or how i first put it on that page from 1899 until 1894 but some one took it off so i had to elaborate this five year building program and put the schedule and dates in brackets, i agree it should not be on the header but some people,should learn how to write it properly in the first place anyway you will never get them two photos i uploaded of the station in the 19th century, them two photos of leicester station in 1856 and 1890 are too rare collectors,items and it does not matter what resolution they are in , it is better than nothing to see St stephens church in the photo before it was famously pulled down in 1991 to be relocated the the New Walk brick by brick, there is no other photos showing such events, no where to be seen. believe you me that is one big pageJohn Johnstone Smith (talk) 11:47, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

When you add material that others might consider doubtful, it is recommended practice to include references, per the policy on verifiability. It is particularly important to show your sources if you alter the meaning of any existing material that was itself sourced.

All images, without exception, must satisfy the image use policy. Making false claims in articles can result in those edits being reverted; making false claims concerning the source, licensing and copyright status of images can get you blocked, as has already happened at Commons. --Redrose64 (talk) 13:35, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Leicester Station please edit if this article is changed from this description

The first station on the site opened on 5 May 1840. It was originally known as Leicester Midland , becoming Leicester Campbell Street on 1 June 1867, and Leicester beside London Road from 12 June 1892.^[1] Leicester station was remodeled from 1899 until 1994 (New London Road entrance 1899-1890, Swain Street bridge rebuilt 1893 replacing Fox Street bridge, New Glass platform roofs, new interior and rooms (Demolished early 1980s on remodel), and line widening, all took place in these five years. Following the closure of Central on 5 May 1969, this station was re-named Leicester formerly the name of Leicester West Bridge Station in 1832 until 1893 when renamed Leicester West Bridge.^[1] Besides London Road and Central, the city of Leicester was served by Belgrave Road, Humberstone Road and West Bridge railway stations.

I have edited this column and if it is edited out please mend the article back to how i wrote it please. that says" there is a five year building program at the Leicester station from 1899 until 1894, and the station was renamed ";leicester station beside London Road not Leicester station London Road, and, also leicester" was not the original name of the station and then renamed "simply leicester in 1969" because the stations original name was "Leicester midland station"(1840-1867), Leicester redbridge was infact opened as simply A "Leicester" in 1832, and renamed "Leicester West Bridge" in 1893.

It is very important to keep a accurate record of the stations history and must be totally correct by 2015 because this is the stations 175th anniversary. Please do not edit the page if you are just in it to graffiti your name we need facts and removing correct data because "you wrote the article first does not give you licence to be incorrect for your own designer sake.PLEASE BE KIND TO THIS PAGEJohn Johnstone Smith (talk) 15:06, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As you say, accuracy is important: and to this end it is essential to show your sources, per the core policies on verifiability. That is the purpose of the <ref name=Butt>{{cite book|last=Butt ... }}</ref> that you have copied above.

You keep putting "from 1899 until 1894" - this is illogical, because 1899 is later than 1894. The station cannot have been named "Leicester Midland" at any time before the formation of the Midland Railway in 1844; moreover they are unlikely to have felt the need for any such suffix until they had a competitor in the town. No railway station in Britain has ever used the word "beside" in the manner that you use above. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:40, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

According to {{Quick-Stations}}:

Leicester was known simply as "Leicester" from 5 May 1840 to 12 June 1892 after which it was known as "Leicester London Road". This remained the name until 4 May 1970 when it reverted to "Leicester"; Bradshaw referred to it as "Leicester Campbell Street" from June 1867 to November 1893. There's no record of it being called "Leicester Midland".
Leicester West Bridge opened as "Leicester" on 18 July 1832, but "West Bridge" was added soon afterwards. It was replaced on 13 March 1893 by a station known locally as "King Richard's Road" which closed on 24 September 1928.
Leicester Welford Road opened on 8 November 1874 and saw its last train in February 1918.
Other stations include Leicester Central, Leicester Belgrave Road, Humberstone Road, Humberstone and Leicester North.

Lamberhurst (talk) 20:56, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ ^a ^b Butt, R.V.J. (1995). The Directory of Railway Stations. Yeovil: Patrick Stephens Ltd. p. 141. ISBN 1-85260-508-1. R508. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)

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Electrification etc

As electrification and IRP etc are all back on the agenda, the article needs an update. I will make a start GRALISTAIR (talk) 15:23, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A recent editor has said that trains will be powered by electricity to Wigston and by diesel from there. but will electric power will wait until the wires are fully extended to Leicester. I don't have the sources to check this.Spinney Hill (talk) 07:17, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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