Talk:Russia at the 2016 Summer Paralympics

Russia at the 2016 Summer Paralympics was nominated as a Sports and recreation good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (October 22, 2016). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Russia at the 2016 Summer Paralympics/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: 333-blue (talk · contribs) 12:08, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I will start reviewing this soon! 333 -blue 12:08, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Criteria

Good Article Status – Review Criteria

Further information: WP:WIAGA

A good article is—

Well-written:

(a) the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct; and

(b) it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.^[1]

Verifiable with no original research:

(a) it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline;

(b) reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose);^[2]

(c) it contains no original research; and

(d) it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.

Broad in its coverage:

(a) it addresses the main aspects of the topic;^[3] and

(b) it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).

Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.

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Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:

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(a) media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content; and

(b) media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.^[6]

Review

Well-written:

Criteria	Notes	Result
(a) (prose)	Some words need to be fixed, like "-'" to "–" in game results, already fixed.	Pass
(b) (MoS)	No big problems.	Pass

Verifiable with no original research:

Criteria	Notes	Result
(a) (references)	It is not pretty good: the missing or empty \|title= slot.	Fail
(b) (citations to reliable sources)	It is actually pretty good!	Pass
(c) (original research)	Same as above.	Pass
(d) (copyvio and plagiarism)	Same as above.	Pass

Broad in its coverage:

Criteria	Notes	Result
(a) (major aspects)	Consisting important contents = yes.	Pass
(b) (focused)	Focussing on the national team.	Pass

Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.

Notes	Result
No big problems.	Pass

Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.

Notes	Result
Recently, no wars.	Pass

Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:

Criteria	Notes	Result
(a) (images are tagged and non-free images have fair-use rationales)	Yes.	Pass
(b) (appropriate use with suitable captions)	It is for of course.	Pass

Result

Result	Notes
On hold	Only the referencing problem needs to be fixed, which is the main one.

Discussion

I've addressed a lot of the style and citation issues just now. ViperSnake151 Talk 15:47, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Other comments

Since the Paralympics have not taken place, and anything can happen between now and the end of the games, I think it is premature for this nomination to have been made and the review to be taking place. While Russia has been disqualified, and it seems like nothing could happen to undo the disqualification for any athlete, we can't be sure that it's impossible. We don't allow movie's about to be released to be Good Articles, or even released movies before all the critical reaction is in; similarly, we don't allow GAs for sporting events that haven't yet occurred. For example, I would expect this article to discuss how the Russian athletes would have fared given, for example, their previous (or qualifying) times as compared to the actual times of the winners, something that is clearly impossible until the Paralympics are over.

Under the circumstances, this review should be put on hold at least until after the Paralympics have ended, and the article has been updated based on what happened there. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:30, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I deeply regret having to do this, but I have formally placed the article on hold at its talk page, and undone the stated passage. The whole point behind waiting is to see whether events require further additions to the article and if so, whether those changes also meet the GA criteria. To pass it as it is now and only postpone the formal acknowledgement is simply inappropriate under the circumstances. I have also taken a look at the article, and am concerned about the comprehensiveness of the review. The Equestrian section, for example, varies between singular and plural such that I don't know how many individual athletes were involved; I would also normally expect the athletes to be named when discussing individual events rather than team events, as is the case in a number of the sports. Other sports subsections:

The 7-a-side football seems to contradict itself as to groups; if the listed countries started out in Group B and there was no redraw, how did they end up in Group A?
Athletics refers to "a number of" Russian qualifiers, but only mentions two of the spots, which were reallocated to Australia. How many were there in toto, and who were they reallocated to? Why only mention Australia? This is surely a broadness issue.
Under Archery, I don't understand why Archers helping Russia in their qualifying campaign at this competition included is the phrasing; why isn't it something more clear and concise like "Archers qualifying for Rio included"? Did some individual archers qualify for specific events, but there were going to be other Russians competing in their place? If so, that should certainly be mentioned.
Paracanoeing: since Russian and Ukraine are separate countries, I don't understand the mention of the latter regarding the second spot in this section. Who was the Russian who earned the second Russian spot, and why include a Ukrainian at all?
Rowing: if this was a single sculls qualification, who was the single sculler?
Shooting: the second and third paragraphs appear to be talking about qualifying for the same Paralympic event, but the name of the event is not worded the same. Which is the official name?

I've also made a few corrections to the article that should have been noted in the review. 333-blue, did you ever get a mentor to guide you in GA reviewing as strongly recommended by myself, Wolbo, and Prhartcom after some of your earlier reviews had issues? I still think that would help. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:50, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I just clarified the Shooting World Cup stuff. It appeared to actually be a series of three events, not to be confused with the Shooting World Championships ViperSnake151 Talk 01:44, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

ViperSnake151, it's been four weeks since I posted the above list of issues. In that time, of the six sections I mentioned, you've only worked on Archery and Shooting. In the former, the revised prose is a bit problematic (Among the archers that had qualified included), and you've not taken advantage of the source's identification of eight athletes by the event they qualified for. I have no idea why they've omitted the two W1 athletes' names, but I imagine you can find them in another source's athlete listing. Are you planning on addressing the issues soon? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:01, 5 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Final recommendation

Given the problems with the article noted above, and the failure to address the majority of them, my recommendation is that this be closed as unsuccessful. Once ViperSnake151 is able to do the necessary work on the article, it can be renominated. 333-blue, if you're still interested in continuing this review, the close is up to you. Otherwise, if nothing happens in the next seven days, I'll close it myself. Note that I have not yet reviewed the new material on the protests at the Rio Paralympics having to do with the Russian athletes, nor the alternative events held in Russia for those athletes. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:55, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It has been a full seven days, and neither this review nor the article itself have been edited to address the issues with the article. I am therefore closing this nomination with the article not listed as a GA. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:46, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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^ Vandalism reversions, proposals to split or merge content, good faith improvements to the page (such as copy editing), and changes based on reviewers' suggestions do not apply. Nominations for articles that are unstable because of unconstructive editing should be placed on hold.
^ Other media, such as video and sound clips, are also covered by this criterion.
^ The presence of images is not, in itself, a requirement. However, if images (or other media) with acceptable copyright status are appropriate and readily available, then some such images should be provided.

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[1] Compliance with other aspects of the Manual of Style, or the Manual of Style mainpage or subpages of the guides listed, is not required for good articles.

[2] Either parenthetical references or footnotes can be used for in-line citations, but not both in the same article.

[3] This requirement is significantly weaker than the "comprehensiveness" required of featured articles; it allows shorter articles, articles that do not cover every major fact or detail, and overviews of large topics.

[4] Vandalism reversions, proposals to split or merge content, good faith improvements to the page (such as copy editing), and changes based on reviewers' suggestions do not apply. Nominations for articles that are unstable because of unconstructive editing should be placed on hold.

[5] Other media, such as video and sound clips, are also covered by this criterion.

[6] The presence of images is not, in itself, a requirement. However, if images (or other media) with acceptable copyright status are appropriate and readily available, then some such images should be provided.

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