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Proposed merge of Draft:The Last Dinner Party into The Last Dinner Party

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was to merge

Please compare and combine. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:03, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge – Thanks, page and draft compared and merged (social media citations in draft not merged). Tag removed Sexitoni (talk) 09:56, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Private school and fees

There is absolutely no reason for the first sentence in the article about this band to be a line about where one of the members went to school, not least how much it costs. The reason given is that it is mentioned in an article about the band, but it's Wikipedia policy that verifiability does not guarantee inclusion. The WP:ONUS to find consensus to include falls on the editor arguing for inclusion, and there has been no discussion of that so far so I'm opening this. @Woovee:, another revert will bring you beyond the WP:3RR - I'm not going to template a regular so I'm letting you know here, so rather than repeatedly edit warring to include this, could you explain why you think it's due for inclusion, let alone due to be the first sentence in this article? ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 10:20, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ser! I concur. glman (talk) 14:46, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. It seems like content that is more relevant for a separate article on Abigail Morris herself, and even then, you would need a good reason and other supporting evidence to justify discussing her "upper class" upbringing and the tuition cost of the school. And per WP:PAGEDECIDE I don't think there is enough to give the band members their own pages for now. As such, per WP:ONUS, the only other option should be to omit the information from the article. FanServ (talk) 01:22, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"The Last Dinner Party Disavow Quote About Cost-of-Living Crisis, Say It Was Taken Out of Context" is the (FAKE) controversy. It seems like an attack by the Conservative Press for Abigail Morris's being Not Conservative.

"upper class" Abigail Morris went to £42,500 a year Bedales School is interesting because how she speaks is Very Posh. 98.248.161.240 (talk) 18:31, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is enough to start a biographical paragraph here and Abigail Morris (musician). 98.248.161.240 (talk) 18:43, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Garth Crooks

The sentence about Garth Crooks praising them on Football Focus was added in November 2023 with a citation (Rolling Stone article) that doesn't contain that information. There are now two quality sources for it – The Guardian and the Times – but they're from February 2024, so might this be a citogenesis? Jös (talk) 15:53, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Removed text and citations. I think you are correct, therefore there is no primary source. The relevant Team of the Week column does not mention the band: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/67328197 Sexitoni (talk) 12:34, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looking around:

https://joshuagoodw.in/2024/02/crooks-last-dinner-party

98.248.161.240 (talk) 18:56, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article Class

Changed from 'C' to 'B'. It is clearly 'B' by any reasonable assessment. (Sexitoni _ talk) 12:36, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Women and non-binary people

Multiple articles mention that the band members are "women and Non-binary people" e.g. NYTimes and Variety. 98.248.161.240 (talk) 19:04, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Potential incorrect information

The statement ''The album's sixth single, "The Feminine Urge", was released in July 2024.'' was added at 03:48 on 3 July 2024 by @98.248.161.240, to the end of the "History" topic. As far as i am aware, the music video for "The Feminine Urge" was released in July 2024 (citation 66), but the song was released on the 1st or 2nd of February 2024 (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iry9982h-Cw and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn90THdOpd4 respectively). This would make the above statement incorrect, and it should therefore be either changed to clarify it is referring to the music video, or to the correct date for the initial release of the song. I have not made this change myself as I am unaware of the official release date (1st or 2nd) or if it causes any further issues in the article. Ewan-65 (talk) 18:40, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ewan-65:

"Adult Alternative Airplay: Week of July 6, 2024". Billboard. Retrieved 2 July 2024.

the Billboard chart is at the same page every week....

there are five singles prior, and it was uploaded to youtube earlier, for "free", as you write, and a single is a promoted product for sale

98.248.161.240 (talk) 22:17, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]