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The Veer

is not primarily a high school offense as we are seeing alot of NCAA D-1 Schools using it out of the Shot gun most notablt West Virginia, Clemson and this years (2006) Nation Champ Florida.

I take a certain amount of exception

to the baseless statement that professional teams are too talented to run the option against. The reality is that no NFL team is going to concentrate on a run-first system when passing (and losing) puts backsides in the seats. Secondarily, there's the lack of knowledge about option systems-- most NFL coaches think the option quarterback is in MORE danger than the drop back passer (which is wrong. The Atlanta Falcons compared "danger" stats for the 2006 season and discovered that when allowed to run or when he scrambled, Michael Vick was actually in LESS danger.) ~(Coach Wade)

Option offenses are not popular in the NFL largely because the pros are the least innovative and flexible people in football. A head coaching job in the NFL is much too lucrative to risk it by trying something new or different. Also, the rules that prevent people from playing pass defense make the offenses more pass-oriented. It would be very difficult to prepare a pro defense to play against a veer or wishbone in a week. 75.69.189.42 (talk) 00:56, 25 October 2010 (UTC)Will in New Haven75.69.189.42 (talk) 00:56, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree on calling wishbone the veer

They both are variations of option football, but I disagree calling the wishbone the veer.

Wishbone uses the fullback in a power role much more, especially to attack inside. The veer can be inside veer or outside veer but seems to rely on faster, halfback type attack.

When you look at the great running teams of the 60's, 70's and 80's, seldom would the wishbone offense of Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, etc. be refered to as the veer. It was the wishbone.

Nebraska used I formation. Houston ran the veer.

Texas ran the Wishbone

It is ironic that the Texas/Notre Dame encounter where the Irish stopped the Texas option offense is discussed in both the articles on the Wishbone and the Veer. It does not belong in this article as UT was running a wishbone. 75.69.189.42 (talk) 03:20, 23 October 2010 (UTC)Will in New Haven75.69.189.42 (talk) 03:20, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's also worth noting that in the 1971 Cotton Bowl, Notre Dame hardly stopped the Texas offense. Texas played a sloppy game and turned the ball over, but gained more yards than they had the previous year when they beat ND. Eddie Phillips, the Texas QB, set a bowl record for total yards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.194.241.173 (talk) 23:28, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"All variants of the triple option have now made the jump to the shotgun formation."

- Is incorrect, as Navy has been running a Flexbone Triple option offense for years and and in recent years has been bowl bound. Also the flexbone is used in I-AA by some schools. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.77.143.120 (talk) 13:53, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

CFL

Is the veer or some form of it used in the Canadian Football League or by Canadian college or university teams? 64.85.225.235 (talk) 00:38, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]