Template:Did you know nominations/Anatolii Brezvin
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 13:52, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
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Anatolii Brezvin
- ... that Anatolii Brezvin began a program to open 60 ice rinks in Ukraine within five years?
- ALT1: ... that Anatolii Brezvin helped establish a minor ice hockey championship in Ukraine, and sought to open 60 ice rinks? Source: https://www.iihf.com/en/events/2024/wm/enwiki/static/60880/anatolii_brezvin
- ALT2: ... that Anatolii Brezvin created a women's ice hockey championship in Ukraine, and entered their national team into the IIHF World Women's Championship? Source: https://www.iihf.com/en/events/2024/wm/enwiki/static/60880/anatolii_brezvin
- Reviewed: Nathaniel Coe and Albert Schädler
- Comment: I volunteer two QPQ credits for one nomination, to help reduce the backlog of nominations without reviews.
Created by Flibirigit (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 156 past nominations.
Flibirigit (talk) 21:52, 11 October 2024 (UTC).
Reviewing...:
- New enough: yes.
- Long enough: more than long enough (very nice!).
- Adequate sourcing: given that most of the sources are in Ukrainian or Russian, I had to use translation tools to verify that the basic facts of the biography are well-sourced.
- Neutral: yes.
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Not sure if closely translating is considered plagiarism or paraphrasing? I'm inclined to accept this as is.
- Hooks cited: yes.
- Hooks interesting: maybe? The original hook could be interesting enough. The two alts don't seem particularly interesting to me compared to the original. But I think the original could be improved by mentioning that the target 60 wasn't reached but I'm unsure if this can fit within the 200 character limit and/or whether this violates WP:DYKHOOKBLP. Basically I'm kinda okay with the original hook but would like to workshop this more. Maybe something like:
... that Anatolii Brezvin began an ambitious program to open 60 ice rinks in Ukraine within five years but only managed to complete 12 and refurbish two?
(148 characters). - QPQ: Both done.
- Overall, the article is a very nice addition to Wikipedia, but maybe we could have a better hook? —seav (talk) 22:36, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- Expanding ALT0 to include what resulted from the program is not going to entice anyone to click the link, since they already know that he failed. I feel that I identified the three most interesting aspects in the biography and proposed a hook for each. Possible more interesting hooks would be from odd juxtapositions. I will comment further tomorrow. Flibirigit (talk) 17:22, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Here are some other hooks based on odd juxtapositions. I have struck the hook from the reviewer as per my comments above. Flibirigit (talk) 23:43, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3: ... that an Honored Economist of Ukraine began a program to open 60 ice rinks within five years?
- ALT4: ... that an Honored Economist of Ukraine helped establish a minor ice hockey championship for his country?
- ALT5: ... that an Honored Economist of Ukraine created a women's ice hockey championship for his country?
- ALT6: ... that a Ukrainian tax administrator began a program to open 60 ice rinks within five years?
- ALT7: ... that a Ukrainian tax administrator helped establish a minor ice hockey championship for his country?
- ALT8: ... that a Ukrainian tax administrator created a women's ice hockey championship for his country?
- Here are some other hooks based on odd juxtapositions. I have struck the hook from the reviewer as per my comments above. Flibirigit (talk) 23:43, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Expanding ALT0 to include what resulted from the program is not going to entice anyone to click the link, since they already know that he failed. I feel that I identified the three most interesting aspects in the biography and proposed a hook for each. Possible more interesting hooks would be from odd juxtapositions. I will comment further tomorrow. Flibirigit (talk) 17:22, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Requesting a second opinion on all hooks listed above. No detailed rationale was given for six hooks not being approved. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 13:06, 9 November 2024 (UTC)