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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Launchballer talk 10:58, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

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Stanley Washburn

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  • Source: "Stanley Washburn of Lakewood, New Jersey, a newspaperman, a soldier, a propagandist, and a former Republican candidate for Congress, had just written to fellow Republican Frank Knox to offer a voice of Far East experience. Apparently during his newspapering days, Washburn had covered the Russo-Japanese War, and he told Knox in a letter on November 29 not to underestimate the Japanese. He had seen them in action, and they were smart, committed, cre- ative, and willing to die. "In my experience, the Japanese never do what they're expected to do," Washburn warned. Knox thought enough of Washburn's wisdom and credentials to pass the letter to Harold Stark. On Tuesday, December 2, Stark put a copy in the mail for Kimmel. By the time it arrived, its prediction was reality." from Twomey, Steve (21 November 2017). Countdown to Pearl Harbor: The Twelve Days to the Attack. Simon and Schuster. p. 190. ISBN 978-1-4767-7648-4. (Note that Knox was the US secretary of the Navy at the time)
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 905 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 19:17, 11 November 2024 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks great! ATTN: promoter: see note about scheduling the hook for 29 November. paul2520 💬 16:15, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

@Launchballer and RoySmith: would it be possible to schedule this hook for 29 November?
Please let me know if there's a different way I should request this! = paul2520 💬 15:26, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Launchballer has been more involved in the scheduling stuff than I have, so I'll leave that to him. RoySmith (talk) 15:31, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
@Dumelow, Paul2520, and RoySmith: This would need an end-of-sentence citation.--Launchballer 16:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Hi Launchballer, I've gone and duplicated all the refs in the relevant paragraph - Dumelow (talk) 17:59, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
I think that's a bit paraphrased a bit too closely. I think it should be reworded.--Launchballer 18:12, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Hi Launchballer, the last paragraph? There's a comparison of it to the source below. Is it the "not to underestimate" bit? I think that comes under WP:LIMITED, but happy to take alternative suggestions - Dumelow (talk) 07:59, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
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Stanley Washburn of Lakewood, New Jersey, a newspaperman, a soldier, a propagandist, and a former Republican candidate for Congress, had just written to fellow Republican Frank Knox to offer a voice of Far East experience. Apparently during his newspapering days, Washburn had covered the Russo-Japanese War, and he told Knox in a letter on November 29 not to underestimate the Japanese. He had seen them in action, and they were smart, committed, cre- ative, and willing to die. "In my experience, the Japanese never do what they're expected to do," Washburn warned. Knox thought enough of Washburn's wisdom and credentials to pass the letter to Harold Stark. On Tuesday, December 2, Stark put a copy in the mail for Kimmel. By the time it arrived, its prediction was reality.
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Washburn later lived in Lakewood, New Jersey and was a candidate for election to the US Congress for the Republican party. On 29 November 1941 he wrote to Frank Knox, a Republican serving as secretary of the Navy under Democrat president Franklin D. Roosevelt, to warn him not to underestimate the Japanese and advise that they "never do what they're expected to do". Knox passed the message onto the Chief of Naval Operations, Harold Raynsford Stark, who mailed it Admiral Husband E. Kimmel, commander of the Pacific Fleet on 2 December. The message arrived only after the Japanese had launched a surprise attack on Kimmel's fleet base at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii.


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