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Use actual name

Please use the actual name of the prize in the template. Don't use Wikipedia to spread lies. // Liftarn

Memorial prize in economics is not a actual name of this prize. -- Vision Thing -- 08:00, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That is the official short name. We can also use the full name if you like. But before you go on and be bold again please bring it up to discussion. // Liftarn

Only name we should use is Nobel Prize in Economics, since it's most recognizable. -- Vision Thing -- 11:27, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, Dybya os more "recognizable" then "George W Bush", but we don't use that. Also Wikipedia should not be used to spread lies and article names should not be offensive. // Liftarn

For 100000th time: if you don't like this name go complain in the talk page of [Nobel Prize in Economics] rather than waste everyones time in every single reference in all wikipedia. --Uriel 23:28, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you don't like the name of the prize complain to the Bank fo Sweden and ask them to change it. Good luck with that. // Liftarn

In case you didn't notice, this is not the Bank of Sweden's website, this is an encyclopedia that descrives the real world and the names people in the real world use. --Uriel 12:58, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and in the real world it's called Bank of Sweden Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel. That's the name of the prize. And it's called an Academy Award, not an "Oscar" as well. // Liftarn

Nobel Prize in Economics

There is clear consensus for a use of the shorter name; the only uncertainty is whether the word "Memorial" has to be included; according to both the majority of opinions expressed in Talk:Nobel Prize in Economics, and the Common names policy, it shouldn't be, so I ~~moved the page~~ changed the title back to Nobel Prize in Economics. --Camptown 14:20, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The title is one thing, what is used in the body text is another. According to Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Identity "Use terminology that subjects use for themselves (self-identification) whenever this is possible." and here it clearly is possible. Also WP:HOAX say "Please do not attempt to put misinformation into Wikipedia to test our ability to detect and remove it.". // Liftarn

This is pretty much an endless discussion that is taking place on a regular basis. But, as I pointed out, there seem to be a strong consensus for the shorter name. --Camptown 14:24, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, votes doesn't change the name of the prize and the prize is called "Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel" that's what should be used in the articles. And as it says on WP:HOAX "Hoaxes in Wikipedia are considered vandalism, and persistent perpetrators of hoaxes are subject to blocking and banning." so I suggest you back down. // Liftarn

Camptown: What's wrong with the name of the prize such that you feel so compelled to change it to "Nobel Prize in Economics"? –panda 22:10, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you find the long official name more relevant, please consult the endless debate and votes at Talk:Nobel Prize in Economics. So far, a broad majority obviously finds the short form correct enough, but if you initiate another vote, you might get a different result. Furthermore, if you find the term "Nobel Prize in Economics" so offending and incorrect (or a "lye" and a hoax as user:Liftarn sometimes puts it), why don't you ask the Nobel Foundation in Stockholm to stop sponsoring the prize, which is the case as the foundation indeed issues the diploma, organizes the Nobel lectures, awards the medal, and hands over the prize cheque (from the Swedish Central Bank - a bank btw which has never been called "Bank of Sweden"). Of course the prize might be called the "Sveriges Riksbank's Prize in Economic Sciences", but again, the community does not, for a number of reasons, share that opinion. What user:Liftarn is doing is plain vandalism, as he/she on a continuous basis and rather violently pushes for the long form in violation to the consensual votes. As regards the use of long or short name, I understand that user:Liftarn has been warned and even blocked for similar violations in the past. --Camptown 21:27, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

BTW. What a waste of time! Why do you demand a reply here as you two are currently involved in a campaing for the long name elsewhere? --Camptown 21:43, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My question is specifically about what you find so wrong with the name of the prize that you feel so compelled to change it to "Nobel Prize in Economics" in the templates? As I've stated on your talk page, there is no consensus to use that name and WP:NAME does not apply to the content of articles. There are editors who would just like to see the correct name of the prize used, especially in articles where it should be used such as Nobel Prize, Nobel Prize in Economics, and these templates. Also, Bank of Sweden has indeed been used as the English name for Sveriges Riksbank in the name of the prize. See the press releases for 2003 2004 and 2005 for a few examples. Also, what's your reason for using "Nobel Prize in Economics"? –panda 22:08, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Talk:Nobel Prize in Economics#Name again for a continuation of this discussion. –panda 15:49, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

FYI. There is no such thing as a Nobel Prize in Economics according to the Nobel Foundation: [1]

"The Prize in Economics is not a Nobel Prize."

So the name here should be changed. –panda —Preceding comment was added at 05:24, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Protected

Let's centralize discussion on the Nobel Prize in Economics template, see Template_talk:Nobel_Prize_in_Economics#Protected. Cool Hand Luke 20:37, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]