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The final outcome was (80/3/0), so I am now an administrator. I was flattered by the level of support and the comments, so I'm under real pressure not to disappoint, thus if you have any queries, suggestions or problems with any of my actions as an admin then please leave me a note --pgk(talk)10:41, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
So, should we start? I feel a bit bad for not doing anything, but I'm not sure what the Director wants right now :). Any ideas? Thanks. Cheers, Bratschetalk | Esperanza21:07, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi there, I saw your userbox saying that you would be happy to help newbies, so I decided I would pop you a message. I have just started combatting vandalism and want to keep going. I saw about the Counter Vandalism Unit and joined. On their homepage, I saw some stuff about javascript tools that help and I didn't really understand any of it. So if you wouldn't mind giving me a little explanation (I can usually figure things out once i've started) it would be really great and much appreciated. Thanks! Swollib23:04, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Heh; I always have some diffuculty finding the new message, especially as you posted way above the latest conversations (had to use the diff). I see you've archived this part of the conversation already. :-) Anyways, to be frank, I haven't been working on it much recently - not only has my work picked up, but I spent quite some time debating, arguing, moving, etc. in preparation for the ArbCom elections. But I digress... I'm just wondering: what separates this project from Interiot's new tool, which seems to cover a lot of what we were doing, and also Oleg Alexandrov's bot, which inserts edit summary percentages of RfA candidates onto the RfA? I know you've talked with Interiot (or was that someone else's conversation I read?), but a lot of this seems to be duplicated effort. Would there be anyway to coordinate with Interiot, Oleg, and others? We're doing a good job here, but if Interiot has all this on the tool server, we're not in a great rush. Thoughts on this? Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 23:00, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
I'll see what I can do. I admit, this hasn't been a high priority for me at this point, and I apologize for that. (I haven't even transferred Java onto this computer yet.) I'll do it (hopefully) soon. Yes, Oleg Alexandrov's bot automatically adds the percentage edit summary for the past 100 or so edits, calculating both percentage of edit summary in minor and non-minor edits. Check WP:RfA for more on that. I think both Oleg and Interiot use Pearl, though. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 23:16, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
Here's the situation: I copied JCreator and all the Java essentials over from my CD yesterday, and I opened up my files. It seems like I transferred the files to my backup external hard drive before I made progress on them; thus, it's a primitive version. I tried turning on my old computer yesterday as well, but for some odd reason wouldn't start. I'll try again soon; it's the only way I can recover the work I've done, or I can just copy the code on the subpage and start from there again. :-) Short answer, no. Having the same problem I was having, I see. Have you asked Oleg how his code (in PEARL) does that? THanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 19:26, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks; I guess you can't upload it to Wikipedia? I'm using Eclipse, but I have BlueJ installed too if you're using that. --AySz88^-^00:22, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
Sure thing, thanks. :) Though I'd want to make sure I'm not doing anything you're already doing. What exactly do you need help with? --AySz88^-^00:32, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
I managed to get everything to fit into a string with tons of null period-things at the end; it would then have to be tokenized, though I guess the periods might need to be chopped off. What happened to me at first (and might have happened to you) is that I was making the stream reuse the same array of bytes over and over, and when the stream ended, the stream left the junk where it was and I concatenated all that junk at the end, making it seem like the stream cut off in the middle of the page. I'll put the code at User:AySz88/Java Sandbox (if you're online right this second, I need to replace the stuff I had there when I was confused). --AySz88^-^06:23, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Oh, I also made a little change to make the "Online help" URL copy-and-paste-able. I don't think we want to make it really act like a hyperlink, since that apparently involves some complicated stuff that probably isn't worth it. (One would think something obvious like a JLabel from a String of value "<html><a href="http://foobar.com/">Text</a></html>" would work.) --AySz88^-^06:31, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
I made a few changes; the biggest change is that I made getContribs(URL) automatically query the killbit and getContribsDirect(URL) bypass it. I only just realized why that might not be such a good idea, but I left getContribsDirect public. I might try to put in a timer thing such that killbit() will cache for a little while. How costly is a query to the killbit? --AySz88^-^22:28, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Done, I think, with both making things private and implementing the cache - can't change the cache on the fly right now, though I don't know if we'd need that. --AySz88^-^04:49, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
I thought about the GUI a little, and I thought that maybe it'd be better to have all the elements on one dialog (the selection between single or multiple pages, one of the input boxes, and the output box). Also, would you rather we move these conversations to a more-centralized place? --AySz88^-^04:11, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
It seems that your one-month block didn't work for some reason... he was vandalizing again an hour later. I didn't see an unblock, which is odd. I applied a standard 24-hour block, hopefully that will work. -- Curps22:03, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
Ooops, my mistake. I mistakenly thought you applied a one-month block that for some reason lasted only one hour, but I can see now that you applied it in December and the vandal started up again within an hour of the previous one-month block expiring. Sorry about the confusion. Feel free to unblock and reapply another one-month block as far as I'm concerned. -- Curps22:26, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
Anger Management
Sorry, I just found the storms section removal EXTREMELY upsetting. Also, Jdorje has made some smart-alec comments that I have found offensive. At least I avoid swearing and name calling. I will continue to strongly advocate it's restoration, but I will try and avoid heated discussion and confrontations. It's just that patience is a virtue I lack. These people seem to keep missing the point and it kinda drives you crazy sometimes. And that's a reason, not an excuse. I do agree that the storms section needed to be trimmed, but not that much. Only the tedious details need to be removed. I've said that before and Jdorje responded with this comment that nearly made me snap: "Well then just remove the whole storms section." Perhaps I misunderstood it, but I saw it as an intentionally naive comment that insulted the hard work that had been done to get all that information. Thanks for the anger management ;). -- §Hurricane ERIC§archive -- my dropsonde00:28, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi Titoxd. Can I ask why you restored the {NPOV} template to the CNN page? Yes, there is a dispute on that page, but only in one section, which is why I put the {{NPOV-section}} template atop that section when I removed the other one, and which you left in place even after restoring the top-of-the-page template. Am I misreading the policy as to how NPOV templates are to be used? (I might also add that the instigator of the NPOV dispute is currently serving his second block in just the last few days for violating 3RR on that page, and has made a number of edits on both the Talk:CNN and Talk:Fox News Channel pages which IMHO constitute very strong evidence of bad faith.) Thanks, --Aaron02:54, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
IRC Channel
Hey, Tito...sorry I had to leave so abruptly like that last night...my parents are really strict about lights-out time, and I was pressing it as it was. Anyway, just wanted to clarify that. Thanks so much for helping me. I appreciate it a lot!--ViolinGirl♪13:10, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
Favor
Hola, ¿cómo estás? Verás, como sabes, en la wikipedia en español se está votando si implantar la política de protección parcial de artículos y, a falta de poco más de un día, parece claro que será adoptada. Me preguntaba si podrías ayudarme a contactar con un desarrollador para que se hagan los cambios necesarios. Quizás tu conozcas a alguno aquí que esté más activo o con quien sea más fácil contactar, ¿o es más adecuado enviar un email a la lista wikitech-l@wikimedia.org? Te pregunto a ti porque me parece que estuvistes algo involucrado en este tema aquí. Por favor, si puedes contestarme, hazlo aquí o en mi página de usuario de es, donde te sea más cómodo. En todo caso gracias y saludos. --Edub11:40, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for reverting the Mr. Treason-esque ranting on my talk page; I guess I should add it to my list of accomplishments! If you're in need of a laugh, email me and I'll forward you the emails he's sent me.
I'd just wanted to ask you, when you get time, to look at Andrés Manuel López Obrador and comment on the few versions that have been floating around, and help us to reach a neutral version. Independently of your political preference, we would really benefit for more comments. -- ( drini's page☎ ) 06:24, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the "lecture"! :D I'm sorry for not replying earlier but the little wiki-time I've had these days has been spent in editing and going through the policy pages you linked. I've also read a bit of WP:AN/I and definitely got the point about being careful in blocking people because of personal attacks (the "MSK incident" comes to mind right away).
I think your explanation of how to use the test templates is the clearest one I've read in a while. In my tools subpage I have a matrix of test templates (a template itself) which is utterly confusing for the uninitiated. I think I'll stick to your explanation for a while until I become more experienced on this art.
I'm looking forward to your explanation of deletion policy. I remember some time ago going through CSD and not getting much out of it. I hope you can make things clearer, whenever you have time.
You answered a question for me on help concerning placing the puzzle globe behind some text. Unfortunately, I can't see the globe in the markup you presented. What do you think the problem is? --Go for it!04:12, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
Gracias querido Tito! For taking care of that vandalism on my page :-) I swear I've been wanting to msg you for several days, but I've been postponing it... and now that I "really" wanna do it, I'm dying of sleep :-( I promise, I'll talk to you tomorrow. Kisses! – Phædriel ♥ tell me - 05:00, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
about the change in policies. Can you image me, with all the trouble I've had already getting in, how much trouble I'm going to have now?! Oh well...I understand. What kind of abuse? Like, accidental reverting when it's not vandalism? 'Cause I wasn't sure about a reverting move that I did once or twice, and then explained myself on the talk page. Hm...-ViolinGirl♪00:48, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Looks like Mr. Treason took another cheap shot at my talk page. :) Thank you so much for taking the time to revert his idiocy. Owe you a big one. - Lucky 6.902:44, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Re: Adminship
Thanks for the congratulations and assorted other musings. :) Yes, I'll be part of the evil cabal soon. I probably won't dive right into the middle of the firefight immediately, I'll take it a little slow, lobbing some mortar shells (+10), but perhaps it won't be too long before I'm accused of being part of a vast conspiracy to censor people with the mop. --Interiot18:56, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
RFR
Hi Titoxd, first of all thanks for your help with the RFR proposal! Do you have an example of where the developers have said they "hate" godmode-light (to support this comment)? A source would be helpful when constructing a "replies to common objections" page, for when the proposal is put to a vote. Talrias (t | e | c) 19:36, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
I need some advice.... E. Brown posted a somewhat-lengthy comment at Talk:2005 Atlantic hurricane season, partially (maybe mostly?) about Jdorje and me... I don't know whether it's valid or how to respond, or if it's attacking us or something like that. What do you think of it? --AySz88^-^05:50, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
Whoa
I wasn't making things personal, that wasn't the purpose of that post. I was just trying to say it seemed so much quieter back in the old days. I was also saying that the conflicts seemed to stem from the newbies' big ambissions (not all bad) and the veterans' attachment to tradition. That wasn't a wordy stab at newcomers, that's not what I stand for. Like I said in the post, I yearn for peace. Why would I intentionally insult somebody when I'm trying to stop the quarelling? -- §Hurricane ERIC§archive -- my dropsonde06:41, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
Important
Titoxd...I've been thinking through real life recently, and I believe that Wikipedia is not what God wants me doing right now. As explained here, this doesn't mean I won't ever be on again, but unfortunately, it means I'll have to back out of admin coaching. It's a terrific program, and Banes and Sango are two of your best coaches. Make sure that whomever they are reassigned to deserve the good work that Banes and Sango can do. I can't tell you have badly I feel, after all the work you've invested in me, not only through creating the admin coaching program, but through your personal help on IRC and all the other ways. Please don't take it personally, because it was nothing you did. Still friends?--ViolinGirl♪14:00, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
>ulk< That was my stomach. :P (seriously, when I saw I had new messages, it did flip. :D) I had a feeling it might be you, since Banes should be in bed. [2] My sincerest thanks to you for understanding. I'm glad to know I'll still have your friendship. I'm trusting you to take care of my name and stuff in the admin stuff, I wasn't really sure what to do. Be sure to give Sango and Banes to a good, prospective admin. Make sure they deserve the good quality they give, because they were (and continue to be) terrific. Let's see, I think that was it...if not, I promise I'll be back giving you another dis-jointed conversation to deal with. ;) God bless, ciao!--ViolinGirl♪21:40, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
BTW, two questions:
Did I mess up your talk page? It's appearing weird on my computer.
Does my sig turn out with a green G or a purple G? It looks purple to me, but I was thinking maybe that's because I've clicked on the G?
>blush< I didn't mean that. (about assigning S and B to "someone as good as [me]".) All I meant was that they were terrific, so...enough on that, anyway. Your page is looking strange in the sense that some of the links (on the...er...let's see, >thinks: write with the right<) left aren't there or at the very bottom of the page. That is, if I remember correctly from the last page. I'm typing this between my turns on a game of chess with my brother. :P And, I'm glad that my G is green. Thanks!--ViolinGirl♪22:32, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Your sidebar is looking better, so maybe you don't have to go over there. BTW, someone been biting you? Because even though I'm not really a part of this anymore, I don't want anyone biting you.--ViolinGirl♪22:35, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Oh. I've always wondered, does the stressmeter thing have to do with RL stress or WL stress? this reminds me of this...hmm...(groanI'm ending up being on more since I "left" than before...this must cease! I hereby promise...:P)--ViolinGirl♪22:50, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
[rhetorical]How does one measure stress, anyway?[/rhetorical] rolls eyes Oh well...thanks again for all your help...see you around! (Have to get studying...<sigh>)--ViolinGirl♪23:53, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
TfD closing
Hey Titoxd. Long time no...see. Anyway, I was calling by to remind you to drop a note on the template's talk page when you decide not to delete it, just like for a non-delete AfD. It helps provide an alert about a previous nom. Thanks. -Splashtalk02:29, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Thank you, Titoxd, for your support of my RfA. I appreciate your comment about my grasp of policy, I hope you are right :-). I will do my best in my new role and welcome your feedback. NoSeptembertalk17:37, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Agregué abundantes enlaces externos y también referencias bibliograficas con su respectivo código ISBN. Te invito a replantear tu postura, sólo si deseas. Saludos. Agguizar...Mensajes aquí
Fixon September 11, 2001 attacks
Thanks for fixing the mess in the introduction on September 11, 2001 attacks. When I removed the guy's expert header I didn't notice at first the other garbage. Was just trying to figure out what had happened when I saw you fixed it. Again, thanks. Now, time to play whack-a-mole. --StuffOfInterest23:33, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Flcelloguy's Tool to 4.0
Thanks for taking the time to reply! I figured you were busy. I'll try to get on putting everything together, but I might not be able to do much in the short-term, since this is midterm week for me. I'll probably procrastinate by working on this, though. :p
(Also, I noticed your message to E. Brown, and there seems to be quite a few people thinking the same way; thanks. But I'm still uncertain about what it really means, like what parts should I listen to...? I don't know why he feels that way, but I'd like to change that.) --AySz88^-^03:35, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
The tool suddenly doesn't work for me anymore when I run the GUI, and I can't remember changing anything that'd mess it up. Here's the stack trace:
Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.util.NoSuchElementException
at java.util.StringTokenizer.nextToken(Unknown Source)
at PurgeContribs.Parse(PurgeContribs.java:139)
at Stats.editcount2(Stats.java:337)
at Stats.mainSingle(Stats.java:126)
at QueryFrame.actionPerformed(QueryFrame.java:104)
at javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(Unknown Source)
The line in question reads:
endSummary = token.nextToken(); // read until "-</span>" is reached
Ah, I must have made an edit at some time that triggers the bug. Maybe check whether the string ends with "</span>"? I think it would be String.substring(String.length()-"</span>".length(), String.length()).equals("</span>"); --AySz88^-^21:40, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I was using my own as well as User:Carie's contribs. Have you tried string.split("<") or something similar to split the tags? Though that kinda defeats the purpose of a tokenizer... (Personally, I don't like tokenizers much. :p) --AySz88^-^22:04, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, what I used for the Namespaces parser was line.split("Something_that_should_only_happen_once"). My idea would be to split the whole line at <span class="comment">, then indexOf the first <span class="autocomment"> and </span>, then see if there's anything left outside of those two. (The dash only occurs when there's stuff after the autocomment anyway, it seems?) --AySz88^-^22:16, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Uh oh, I don't know, I'm getting crashes at line 70 (String dummyPageName = URL.substring(25, dummyURL.length() - 20); // ditto).... Did you mean "dummyURL.substring(" instead of "URL"? --AySz88^-^04:10, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Well, it's crashing for everyone; might be something wierd with my local copy though. For myself, it produces:
Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0"
java.lang.StringIndexOutOfBoundsException: String index out of range: -36
at java.lang.String.substring(Unknown Source)
at PurgeContribs.Parse(PurgeContribs.java:50)
Ah, I found the problem, there's some sort of intermittent bug here with GetContribs where somehow the StringBuilder doesn't interpret the byte[] as a char[] (maybe when there's a byte[1] or byte[0] or something strange like that). Sorry! --AySz88^-^05:01, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Well, I fixed my botch; sorry for worrying you! I have to learn to stop tweaking things that work. :p I'll get to the Unicode first thing in the morning; it's getting late for me here. Thanks! --AySz88^-^06:27, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Namespace class
Eep, sorry! I hope it wasn't too much of a bother to wade through it. I'll get it adjusted to process a Contrib object. Right now, it can handle all the combinations, but it takes too many calculations to decode into each of the eight you listed, so I'm going to switch to another method.
The newArticleArray TreeSet is a list of articles that this person has started. I'm not sure if it's useful at all since Contrib doesn't handle "N" or "Nm" (it seems?).
I think I can do Interot's tree thing; I think I would have to use a HashMap to quickly access article/count pairs, then translate to a TreeMap to sort it by edit count. I'm not sure about how the GUI would work, though. --AySz88^-^17:45, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Hmm, date-restricted would involve somehow storing all the dates of the edits, or (to make it even more functional) all the Contribs for a single namespace....or sorting all the dates into the "minor/auto/manual" matrix. Pretty complicated.... It might become a memory hog, but I guess we won't know without trying. Can Contribs store the time as long (converting through a Calendar object) instead of a String? --AySz88^-^03:03, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Hmm, I'm not sure why, but the month doesn't seem to want to .equals anything (I removed the "toUppercase" and changed the block of ifs to this, and it still doesn't work)
if (month.equalsIgnoreCase("January")) monthNo = Calendar.JANUARY;
if (month.equalsIgnoreCase("February")) monthNo= Calendar.FEBRUARY;
if (month.equalsIgnoreCase("March")) monthNo = Calendar.MARCH;
if (month.equalsIgnoreCase("April")) monthNo = Calendar.APRIL;
if (month.equalsIgnoreCase("May")) monthNo = Calendar.MAY;
if (month.equalsIgnoreCase("June")) monthNo = Calendar.JUNE;
if (month.equalsIgnoreCase("July")) monthNo = Calendar.JULY;
if (month.equalsIgnoreCase("August")) monthNo = Calendar.AUGUST;
if (month.equalsIgnoreCase("September")) monthNo = Calendar.SEPTEMBER;
if (month.equalsIgnoreCase("October")) monthNo = Calendar.OCTOBER;
if (month.equalsIgnoreCase("November")) monthNo = Calendar.NOVEMBER;
if (month.equalsIgnoreCase("December")) monthNo = Calendar.DECEMBER;
Huh? The .toString() of the object, to me, shows things like "HOUR_OF_DAY=5,MINUTE=21" which are correct, but though it also has things like "SECOND=47,MILLISECOND=390" too, which are all the same and probably just some default (the current time, maybe). --AySz88^-^06:16, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
I updated the sandbox (should I move it to the Wikiproject space?) with versions that download the contributions and have the option in the GUI. I still need to edit Stats to use Namespace; I'm being forced to go to bed, but hopefully I can finish that tomorrow! --AySz88^-^06:51, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
RfA Thanks
Please accept my embarrassingly belated thank you for supporting my RfA, which much to my surprise passed 102/1/1, earning me minor notoriety. I am grateful for all the supportive comments, and have already started doing the things people wanted me to be able to do. And hopefully nothing else... Just zis Guy, you know?[T]/[C]AfD?12:13, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
WTF?
Hi Tito, sorry for the headline but I can not think of a better way to show my disdain for this WP:CVU/IRCV. I am ignorant on IRC, that includes if I have registered myself with Nickserv, among many other things. All I use IRC for is to help revert vandalism! I have been on a indef wikibreak and I came back to this. I have no idea how to add myself, If you could please help and guide me through this in terms that I can better understand I would very much appreicate it! (The instructions do me little good as I have no idea what they mean :-|) Thanks.
Hey Titoxd, Just wanted to let you know that I finally got my SDK up to date, and it's finally recognizing StringBuilder()! I'll be around whenever you wanna discuss the project further (I was kinda conssumed in 24 last night). Cheers! --Lightdarkness18:45, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
I went ahead and blocked because the user already had a bv template on their talk page and I didn't see them making any positive contributions in the near future.--Alhutch00:32, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
Recuerdas que objetaste contra este artículo candidato a destacado por faltarle referencias, pues ya las tiene y también varios enlaces en español. Te invito a replantear tu postura, el usuario Taichi ya votó a favor del artículo por hacer las correcciones. -- Agguizar...Mensajes aquí
Thank you for your support during my RfA! The community has decided to make me an administrator, and there's work to be done. I look forward to seeing you around the project in the future, and if you see me do anything dumb, let me know right away! Regards, CHAIRBOY (☎) 23:41, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Since the article was deleted, should the talk also be deleted? Or at least annotated that the second voting round had consensus for delete and point to that round? Thanks! (and I'm still mad that User:JzG beat me to nominating this one the second time... LOL) You can answer here, I watch talk pages I start discussion on. ++Lar: t/c19:23, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Kate might set up an account for that, but it's probably much easier to get a sourceforge account, or something like that, for the JAR file. There's lots of free websites around. As for _p, yeah, that's somewhere on (the bottom half of) my list. --Interiot23:59, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Sure! I'll take a look, and might even come back and write some code myself, time depending. :-) Give me some time... Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?)
Preliminary thoughts: breakdown of percent edit summary for minor/nonminor edits, per namespace. Perhaps breakdown of autoedit summary versus nonautoedit summary. Also, I was thinking it would be nice to give the user a option to take Lupin's list of vandal keywords (obsceneties such as f***, etc.) and search the edit summaries for any of those and flag them as potentially "uncivil", or have the user enter something to search for. I'll give it some more thought, but I'm about to log off now. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 02:11, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
The Namespace class is all ready to serve up the first couple of Flcelloguy's suggestions. :) (It needs...*ahem*...tweaking though) --AySz88^-^06:31, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
