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Verification
Re: your comment about the Haaretz coverage. What kind of verification I can provide that does not violate expectation of privacy? I already linked a copy of my publicly posted reply to Haaretz: [1] which you are welcome to link from your piece. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:56, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- That will work fine. Thank you!--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 10:27, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- One more nitpick, if I may. This is about the "User:Poeticbent, who retired from Wikipedia due to the Antisemitism in Poland dispute, is named by Icewhiz as one of the Polish nationalist editors intentionally spreading misinformation on Wikipedia." AFAIK is never described in Haaretz as "Polish nationalist editor." I think this is implied, perhaps, but overall I'd suggest using a neutral description "one of the Polish editors." That piece, while suggesting that there are many Polish nationalists active on English Wikipedia, actually fails to name a single one... Oh, and I don't think it is necessary to refer to him as 'they' as he discloses his name (and by default, gender) on his user page. I also think it might be worth mentioning that Poeticbent was the most active editor in the Polish-Jewish topic area; creator of numerous articles on Jewish ghettos, and such (I say this as someone who edited Polish-topic area since 2004 and who effectively knows all active content creators in this topic area, past and present; while this is a bit hard to qualify, no other editor comes to mind or has ever been suggested as rivaling his contributions in this topic area; further, if you look at his userpage, there are public statistics, like that 7 out of 8 of his most viewed DYKs were related to Polish-Jewish history, and all of the Top 10 of his most actively edited articles are from that content area). I think that Signpost is the right place to recognize editors who devoted so much of their life to this project, and have statistics to show for it. One nore tidbit that I find might be interesting to the readers: User:Halibutt, RIP, author of 10+ Polish history Featured Articles (according to his userpage) that is mentioned in the Haaretz piece as the creator of the first entry on KLM, and is also implied by Haaretz to be one of those 'nationalists' just like Poeticbent, or at the very least of being guilty of adding saind fringe/conspiracy/hoax theory to Wikipedia in the first place, has described himself on his userpage as a Jew. It might be interesting to point out the irony involved in accusing a Polish Jew of being an [antisemitic?] Polish nationalist. A last thought: I don't want to taut my own contributions (I stopped updating my userpage with them few years back, you can check it if you want...) but all three users named by Haaretz and implied to be part of the 'Polish' POV side or such (Halibutt, Poeticbent, myself; all three who have chosen to reveal their real name on this project, as I think we never had anything to hide or be ashamed for) have been major content creators, who collectively contributed dozens of FAs/GAs and 1000+ DYKs to this project. Icewhiz, according to his userpage, has written about a dozen DYKs, and I am not aware of a single GA or higher quality article hr worked on. This is something to consider in light of Wikipedia:Here to build an encyclopedia... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:25, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
- The Week summarizes this nicely in Nationalists hijacking Wikipedia, their punch line being: " But most of the Polish editors involved are still active on Wikipedia. Who knows what else they are revising?". 194.71.227.61 (talk) 04:18, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, Piotrus, I've included some of those details. 194.71.227.61, I've included a link to The Week in the list of publications which reported on the Haaretz story.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 10:18, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
- The Week summarizes this nicely in Nationalists hijacking Wikipedia, their punch line being: " But most of the Polish editors involved are still active on Wikipedia. Who knows what else they are revising?". 194.71.227.61 (talk) 04:18, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
- One more nitpick, if I may. This is about the "User:Poeticbent, who retired from Wikipedia due to the Antisemitism in Poland dispute, is named by Icewhiz as one of the Polish nationalist editors intentionally spreading misinformation on Wikipedia." AFAIK is never described in Haaretz as "Polish nationalist editor." I think this is implied, perhaps, but overall I'd suggest using a neutral description "one of the Polish editors." That piece, while suggesting that there are many Polish nationalists active on English Wikipedia, actually fails to name a single one... Oh, and I don't think it is necessary to refer to him as 'they' as he discloses his name (and by default, gender) on his user page. I also think it might be worth mentioning that Poeticbent was the most active editor in the Polish-Jewish topic area; creator of numerous articles on Jewish ghettos, and such (I say this as someone who edited Polish-topic area since 2004 and who effectively knows all active content creators in this topic area, past and present; while this is a bit hard to qualify, no other editor comes to mind or has ever been suggested as rivaling his contributions in this topic area; further, if you look at his userpage, there are public statistics, like that 7 out of 8 of his most viewed DYKs were related to Polish-Jewish history, and all of the Top 10 of his most actively edited articles are from that content area). I think that Signpost is the right place to recognize editors who devoted so much of their life to this project, and have statistics to show for it. One nore tidbit that I find might be interesting to the readers: User:Halibutt, RIP, author of 10+ Polish history Featured Articles (according to his userpage) that is mentioned in the Haaretz piece as the creator of the first entry on KLM, and is also implied by Haaretz to be one of those 'nationalists' just like Poeticbent, or at the very least of being guilty of adding saind fringe/conspiracy/hoax theory to Wikipedia in the first place, has described himself on his userpage as a Jew. It might be interesting to point out the irony involved in accusing a Polish Jew of being an [antisemitic?] Polish nationalist. A last thought: I don't want to taut my own contributions (I stopped updating my userpage with them few years back, you can check it if you want...) but all three users named by Haaretz and implied to be part of the 'Polish' POV side or such (Halibutt, Poeticbent, myself; all three who have chosen to reveal their real name on this project, as I think we never had anything to hide or be ashamed for) have been major content creators, who collectively contributed dozens of FAs/GAs and 1000+ DYKs to this project. Icewhiz, according to his userpage, has written about a dozen DYKs, and I am not aware of a single GA or higher quality article hr worked on. This is something to consider in light of Wikipedia:Here to build an encyclopedia... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:25, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
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Please could you provide assistance as to how I could resurrect the account Syxxoackid420 which is currently moribund as the email associated with the account password reclamation procedures no longer exists 109.157.144.71 (talk) 14:29, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
- 109.157.144.71, take a look here. You probably will need to create a new account and have an admin move the history of your old page to the new account.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 22:05, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
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Hi Kenneth. I opened a featured-article nomination for Aftermath (Rolling Stones album) earlier this month, and it's garnered a good amount of reviews so far. I found your name at an FAN for another rock-related article and wanted to welcome you to offering one more review, if you are interested. isento (talk) 01:16, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
- I'll see if I can help.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 16:31, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
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116 (hip hop group) again, a questionable action
The move to 116 (hip hop group) may have been premature as they are not yet commonly known by the name. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:02, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
- The group hasn't been going by "116 Clique" for some time now.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 00:55, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Removal of maintenance template?
https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Reach_Records&curid=39302068&diff=947192866&oldid=947167271 Are you planning on citing? Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:54, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
- I removed the template because I provided a citation to the Reach Records discography page, which has all the releases listed.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 00:57, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
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On Commons, you should add {{extracted from|File:"I'm Lecrae".webm}} to screenshots from videos. The original video should also have {{licensereview}} to request a license review. (File:"I'm Lecrae".webm already does) If the source video hasn't been uploaded on Commons, the screenshot should have {{licensereview}}. Thanks for helping btw. - Alexis Jazz 16:05, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, will do.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 17:01, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
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New list article
You can make a new list article at List of National Socialist black metal artists, to replace the deprecated section at the genre article. Binksternet (talk) 16:52, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, I was planning to do so soon, anyway.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 16:57, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- I think an exception can be made in this case for bands that don't have an article - most of the genre is very underground, and most publications won't review these bands or devote a lot of coverage to them because they don't want to promote them. I also think it's very important to highlight which bands perform this style, if they are mentioned in reliable sources.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 17:00, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- The guideline WP:LISTPEOPLE applies. Every entry on the list should be demonstratably notable. In any case, explicitly declare your inclusion criteria in the introductory prose of the list article. Binksternet (talk) 17:16, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Since all the entries are supported by independent reliable secondary sources, I believe this is within the standard of WP:LISTPEOPLE.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 17:26, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- The guideline WP:LISTPEOPLE applies. Every entry on the list should be demonstratably notable. In any case, explicitly declare your inclusion criteria in the introductory prose of the list article. Binksternet (talk) 17:16, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
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Category:Black metal demos has been nominated for discussion
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Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Unfortunately, due to your constant Reverting of the editions made by other editors, except your own, despite the big dose of argumentations, references, proves, correction and suggestions offered. Thus,I have to post a complaint to the Administration Board for them to look this issue through. As till the recent moment you, in my humble opinion, and for some reason, act as an Editor head of the magazine, but not as ONE among thousands editor of Wikipedia to keep it Neutral position instead of tabloid-like issue. All the issues discussed in the complaint reflected from the discussion in Talks that was held. This, of course, doesn’t mean that any other corrections won’t be communicated in future / Violeance (talk) 17:10, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hello 3family6. Please see my recent comment in the complaint about your edits filed by Violeance at WP:AN3. It appears you have been engaged in a wide-scale edit war about the Category:National Socialist black metal since 7 April. You have made possibly two dozen reverts across a number of articles. I recommend you promise to wait for consensus before you continue these edits. In fact, it is best if you *propose* a workable strategy for finding a negotiated solution. For instance, a WP:Request for comment at a suitable place. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 19:02, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
- I have opened an RfC.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 21:45, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hello 3family6. You've been warned for edit warring per the result of the complaint at WP:AN3. Thanks for the RfC at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music/Music genres task force#Consensus needed regarding National Socialist black metal artists, but the system is going to truncate it unless you can come up with a shorter statement. 500 words is way too long. See what the other RfCs look like at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Media, the arts, and architecture. You might find another experienced editor who could help you focus the RfC question properly. You should separate your arguments in support of your position from the RfC itself. There is a better example of an RfC already on that page: Should this article describe One America News Network with a political bias descriptor, and secondly, is "far-right" the appropriate descriptor to use if one is appropriate? That RfC question is 27 words, not 500. EdJohnston (talk) 01:21, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
- I have opened an RfC.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 21:45, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
BarlowGirl: stop defending paid edits!
Hey Kenneth. The excuse you use to defend Beka Hardt's vandalism of BarlowGirl's Wikipedia page is pathetic. The band paid Hardt hundreds of thousands of dollars over many years, so she is a paid editor, and her contributions on the article should be null and void. The fact is, my edit was left intact from 3 February 2020 to 21 April 2020. Once Hardt jumps in and undoes my edit, you side with her. I don't care for your excuses. People deserve to know the truth. This band is morally corrupt. Here is proof that they spent all of 2013 e-begging to sell merch. Here is proof in 2016 and in 2017 that they side with the perverted Lady Gaga. I could find you plenty of other examples. The fact is, the road manager's comments on purity this year are relevant, and I will continue to defend my edit that includes them on the Wikipedia page. If Hardt doesn't want these comments on Wikipedia, she should have kept her mouth shut. Please stop defending her vandalism. --LABcrabs (talk) 13:11, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- If you suspect Hardt is engaging in paid editing, you should 1) mention this on the talk page of the suspected user, and, after you do that, 2) present your case at the conflict of interest noticeboard. As to the content that was removed, the activities and statements by BarlowGirl's road manager aren't particularly relevant to the band, unless those statements are about the band itself. Hardt isn't a band member, thus her personal beliefs aren't really pertinent to coverage of BarlowGirl.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 14:03, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
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Hunan201p escapes edit warring
Are you sure there is no accidental mistake with Hunan201p ? Do I need to go to the noticeboard? https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?titl0e=Genghis_Khan&action=history
Looking at the revision history. You said on 02:36, 29 April 2020 " I'm restoring this to the last uncontested version. ", than Hunan201p reverted the 1st time, 2nd time, he clearly knows it was you but still ignored it (like 3rd edit). I didn't do anything to revert.
You than send this to my talk page " You are edit warring with Hunan201p. You both are risking being blocked. " but Hunan201p recieved not even a warning on his talk page.
You than said this on Genghis Khan talkpage to Hunan201p " that still does not justify edit warring..... ". 21:52, 29 April 2020, Well he still did anyway 08:09, 1 May 2020 , he reverted your edit and din't wait for me, but still no block, no warning. I didn't even have the time to come back and make these replies.
Ymblanter, already said " I do not think I supported anybody on this page. I just said that admins do not resolve content disputes. "16:04, 1 May 2020
Hunan201p every exaggerations about admins helping him. Why is he allowed to have his edit ? He hasn't even provided a date verification, English translation for Georgian Royal Annals, and nothing about the authenicity of Genghis Khan is mentioned only Khazars, Turks.
And his 14th century quotes came from. Hunan uses this journal study from 2016 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5023095/.
The quote itself says " Although the factual nature of the statement is controversial, Persian historian Rashid-al-Din reported in his “Jami’s al-tawarikh” written at the start of the 14th century that most Borjigin ancestors of Genghis Khan were tall, long-bearded, red-haired, and bluish green-eyed, suggesting that the Genghis Khan’s male lineage had some Caucasoid-specific genetic features [44]."
I checked the reference [44] and the only that showed up was this Blair S. A compendium of chronicles: Rashid al-Din's illustrated history of the world. Oxford: Oxford University Press; 2005. [Google Scholar] [Ref list]I clicked here but nothing came out https://scholar.google.com/scholar_...e+world&author=S+Blair&publication_year=2005& NOTHING WAS FOUND so I googled it and the only work I found was this Academic work from Shelia Blair on Rashid_al-Din_and_his_Compendium_of_Chronicles (nothing about red hair on Genghis Khan) https://www.academia.edu/32365632/Illustrating_History_Rashid_al-Din_and_his_Compendium_of_Chronicle
The only thing I could find from Compendiums of Chronicles (Jami’s al-tawarikh) is this "gaze fell upon him he said, "Our sons are all of a ruddy complexion, but this boy is swarthy, just like his maternal uncles. Tell Sorqaghtani Beki to give him to a good nurse to be brought up by." He was given to Moga's mother, Saruq by name. He hasn't provided a verification link for that extrodinary quote that doesn't exist even Hunan201p could not find it when I asked him about on the previous talk page discussion. Queenplz (talk) 19:48, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hunan201p was warned on the article talk page. You both were edit warring, so it won't be good for you either at the edit warring noticeboard. There are numerous sources which mention that Rashid al-Din said Genghis Khan had red hair, and the article specifically states that the veracity of Rashid's claim is debated. That's relevant to that section.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 20:38, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
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Hunan201p edits in the blond and red hair section
3family, I think I need your help. I find it really strange that he is adding unconfirmed mythical figures as real live living people with blonde hair. On the blonde wikipedia page Asia section. Hunan201p insist of editing the mythical figure Huangdi as blond and Indo-European and claiming Bodonchar Munkhag as blonde hair, but he was born from mother Alan Gua which is a mythical mother and his text are based on rashid al-din controversial 14th century text.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blond#Asia
In the red hair of the Asia section. He basically adds the same thing about Rashid al-Din text from the of 14th century 'Compendium of Chronicles', authored by Rashid al-Din under the auspice of Ghazan Khan claiming Genghis Khan have red hair and just like the Genghis Khan wikipedia section, it doesn't mention "the factual of these natural arec controversial". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#Asia_(all_regions)
Is there anything you can do about this. To me strange that he only add the Asia section like that. In the Europe, Africa, Oceanic section there's nothing about these types of claims on any historical figure or ancient/medieval ethnic groups.Queenplz (talk) 21:31, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- Bring it up on the respective talk pages. Or start a Request for Comment on WP:WikiProject Genetics or WP:WikiProject History.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 22:35, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for interest in my WikiProject proposal
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- List of National Socialist black metal bands (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver)
- added a link pointing to Abingdon
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Adding a questionable category to Khors (band)
Hello 3family6. You have re-added Khors (band) to the NSBM category here, on May 9. As you know there was an edit warring case about this on 20 April, where it appeared you were adding this category to lots of articles. I warned: "They [you] are risking a block if they mark any article as National Socialist black metal unless they have first obtained a talk page consensus in their favor." If you believe you received consensus for this change on a talk page, can you point to where you received it? Are you aware of any other editors agreeing with this classification for Khors? If you don't have a good answer, I recommend you undo your change. EdJohnston (talk) 22:33, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- I believed that the RFC I opened supported the change. In particular, my discussion with Mungo Kitsch, who introduced a compromise on the Drudkh article, which I tried to replicate at Khors, and also expressed their opinion about the List of National Socialist black metal bands. Regarding the latter, they objected to a band being listed, but that band was not Khors (which was also listed). The consensus seemed to me to be that labeling needs to be very clearly justified by clear statements in reliable sources, and less clear labeling deserves more nuance. In addition to that, if it's a list entry, the list entry must be supported by reliable sources that are explicit about that label. At least one outside editor reviewed the list article in light of the discussion, and did not object to Khors specifically whereas they did for other bands. In light of all that, I thought this edit was appropriate, because if a list entry is appropriate then a category entry would be as well. Because apparently this is still a contested issue, I've reverted back to this version. I also earlier today asked Mungo Kitsch if they are willing to take a look, since they were helpful regarding other articles.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 22:49, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- I looked back at the edit history for the List of National Socialist black metal bands, and I realize that Mungo Kitsch made their edits and commentary after Khors was removed. So I was mistaken. I've already reverted my changes to the Khors article, I now did the same for the list.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 22:55, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- Because the consensus from the RfC is disputed, and the RfC was about an NSBM labeling more generally rather than specific to Khors, I've opened up a new discussion at Talk:Khors (band)#Labeling as NSBM.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 23:18, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
I am so confused.
Dear User:3family6, What. Are. You. Doing? ([1])
Did you really attack the Khors page with multiple editions just recently again, while one more topic was just opened by you to find a final Consensus??
You even didn’t let most of the other Editors to speak, though you personally nominated some of them and asked to participate in this Consensus (second round).
Are you aware of how much and badly you violate Wikipedia rules, rule by rule, over and over, and show disrespect to other Editors? Do we read it differently again, as Administration Board, and namely User:EdJohnston, among other Editors, kindly asked you to search for the Consensus first, before falling in your editing wars again and again? User_talk:3family6#Adding_a_questionable_category_to_Khors_(band); User_talk:3family6#Notice_of_edit_warring_noticeboard_discussion. Violeance (talk) 13:09, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- I added quotes by the band from an interview in which they talk about and support Ukrainian nationalism. That's outside what the dispute that I was warned for, which specifically is tagging bands as NSBM.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 13:18, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
My apologies, but I don't beleive it as you mix them up. Thus, I assess this as an intentional harm. Violeance (talk) 13:48, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- What have I mixed up?--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 14:17, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
Oh… and now I am speechless, confused to the greatest degree with Vandalism_on_Wikipedia and reckless behavior of User:3family6. Dear User:3family6, did you just again made a damage of AT LEAST five (might be more) editors work through a month ([2]), because of? Your bad mood? Or did you try to attack me personally through involving me in Edit Warring? What would be a reason? To get an evidence and report my action of WP:BLP protection as edit warring? To spoil the Wikipedia page many Editors were working on? What WP:TW might mean in your vandal action of a month work of many editors reverting?
Many editors just has suffered from your reckless actions, as you erased all their efforts on the Wikipedia pages in one click. This looks even more crazy, as you also killed your own work, some editing was a valuable corrections too, but apparently that wasn’t your purpose.. Or? Have no clue how else it might be called, and what would be the reason behind. I reverted it back as I value contribution of wiki editors and their time. For the sake of mutual Consensus dozens of disscusions were held and are still open. Many editors devoted their efforts and time to solve this issue with a consensus and respect WP:BLP Talk:Khors_(band)#Labeling_as_NSBM and another Consensus page Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Music/Music_genres_task_force#Consensus_needed_regarding_National_Socialist_black_metal_artists.
Dear User:EdJohnston, may I call for your piece of advice as, apparently, you are very experienced in similar Wikipedia issues? Since I have no clue, how to deal with such Editor’s behavior. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Violeance (talk • contribs) 17:59, 13 May 2020 (UTC) Violeance (talk) 18:01, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Violeance I reverted back to just before I made my first edit to Khors, which was to include a mention of National Socialist black metal. Since that initial edit is the source of the dispute, I wanted to restore the article to prior any conflict.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 18:13, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Almost all of the work that you mention was actually done by me originally. There is little substantial difference between the version I reverted to and what stands now without my edits.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 18:19, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Dear User:3family6, you are a very experienced Editor, I am sure, you did notice that many editors were providing their contribution to this page. As that's the aim of Wikipedia to reflect the recent changes and provide brief information on the subject to its readers. So, it does not explain this situation. Violeance (talk) 18:24, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- My edit summary explained exactly why I reverted: I was reverting to prior any contested versions. Because of your concerns about me having reverted other's work, I did a more careful revision where I removed anything that originated from my edits specifically--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 18:32, 13 May 2020 (UTC).
User:3family6, all actions have consequences. This is not a funny game you play, this is a very serious issue to paint anybody with such terms that might affect someone's lives. For this reason policy such as WP:BLP exists. You have to realise it. Violeance (talk) 19:38, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
References
DYK for Ole Børud discography
On 17 May 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ole Børud discography, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Ole Børud is featured on a song by a choir project that involved recordings from around the world because of the COVID-19 pandemic? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ole Børud discography. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Ole Børud discography), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Vardøger (band)
On 18 May 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Vardøger (band), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Norwegian band Vardøger formed, recorded music, disbanded, re-formed to release Whitefrozen, disbanded again, re-formed to release Ghost Notes, and then disbanded yet again? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Vardøger (band)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Whitefrozen
On 18 May 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Whitefrozen, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Norwegian band Vardøger formed, recorded music, disbanded, re-formed to release Whitefrozen, disbanded again, re-formed to release Ghost Notes, and then disbanded yet again? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Whitefrozen), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Ghost Notes (Vardøger album)
On 18 May 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ghost Notes (Vardøger album), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Norwegian band Vardøger formed, recorded music, disbanded, re-formed to release Whitefrozen, disbanded again, re-formed to release Ghost Notes, and then disbanded yet again? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Ghost Notes (Vardøger album)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Schaliach
On 28 May 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Schaliach, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Ole Børud's guitar music on the album Sonrise, by the band Schaliach, was likened to a "metal symphony"? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Schaliach), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Sonrise
On 28 May 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sonrise, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Ole Børud's guitar music on the album Sonrise, by the band Schaliach, was likened to a "metal symphony"? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Sonrise), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Starting a new WikiProject
Thank you for your interest in my proposal for WikiProject Mysticism at Wikipedia: WikiProject Council. There are currently three Wikipedians (including you and I) who have said they would join this WikiProject at Wikipedia: WikiProject Council. I see on the talk page of Wikipedia: WikiProject Council, it is said that a new WikiProject needs about six to eight Wikipedians to stay active. I wonder whether you would be interested in publicising this WikiProject proposal on the talk page of articles related to mysticism? Thank you in advance for your co-operation - I think we just need another three or four Wikipedians to get this WikiProject started. Vorbee (talk) 07:58, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
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DYK for Mongol conquest of Eastern Xia
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— Maile (talk) 00:03, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Battle of Asakai
Hello! Your submission of Battle of Asakai at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! --evrik (talk) 04:25, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 39, May – June 2020
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DYK nomination of Battle of Asakai
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