User talk:Antidiskriminator/Archive 8
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DYK for Kosta Manojlović
On 6 November 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kosta Manojlović, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that although Kosta Manojlović was instrumental in the establishment of the Belgrade Music Academy, serving as its first rector, he was forced to retire from it for political reasons? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kosta Manojlović. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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DYK for Kasim Pasha
On 8 November 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kasim Pasha, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Kasim Pasha allegedly resigned from the position of Rumelian beglerbey? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kasim Pasha. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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Hey, thanks for the compliments. I do speak several languages, but unfortunately, French is not one of them. Even though those are heraldic terms, I could not understand a single word. Sorry. PozZ --WikiNameBaks (talk) 20:40, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
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Help needed again
Ping. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:46, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
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AN request from a few weeks ago
You requested that an uninvolved admin close the merge discussion on Talk:Massacres of Albanians in the Balkan Wars. But that discussion started and ended in 2010. There's nothing to close. Did you mean a different article? Or did you misread the dates? Qwyrxian (talk) 15:14, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
- Qwyrxian (talk · contribs) I know that this discussion ended in 2010, but it was not closed. I thought that every merge proposal should be closed with result of the discussion determined by uninvolved editor. If I was wrong I apologize.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 18:27, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
- Well, per WP:MERGE, if the consensus is clear, any neutral editor can close it, though if it's particularly controversial, admins can. That being said, given that no one actually acted on the merge proposal for 3 years, I don't think we can rely on that consensus being strong. Here's what I think the best way forward would be: Merge the contents, then redirect the article to the suggested target. If anyone reverts, accept that the merge is disputed, then start a new merge discussion (referring to the prior one) and ask for that one to be closed by an admin. In that case, a clear judgement of consensus for a merge would override individual objections. I'll put the article on my watchlist to monitor. Qwyrxian (talk) 22:16, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
- Qwyrxian, thanks. I was actually opposed to merging (diff) and I am involved in this dispute within particularly sensitive and controversial topic. Are you sure it is appropriate for me to perform the merger? --Antidiskriminator (talk) 23:05, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
- Ah, sorry, I didn't check to see who said what. Well, in that case, if you don't think merging is appropriate, go ahead and try removing the merger template, with an edit summary explaining why. Then, if that's reverted, restart the discussion on the talk page. Basically, my opinion is it should either be merged or not tagged as pending a merge, because it's obviously not currently under discussion. I felt there was a slight edge to those who recommended a merge in the 2010 discussion, but it wasn't overwhelming, and it's too old to really hold any precedent anyway. And, perhaps the article's been improved and differentiated from the merge target since then. Making a bold edit is the easiest way to see if there's been any sort of solidifying of consensus either way in the intervening time, so long as you don't edit war if you're reverted. Qwyrxian (talk) 23:45, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the advice which I took and removed merger templates with explanation.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 09:34, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- Ah, sorry, I didn't check to see who said what. Well, in that case, if you don't think merging is appropriate, go ahead and try removing the merger template, with an edit summary explaining why. Then, if that's reverted, restart the discussion on the talk page. Basically, my opinion is it should either be merged or not tagged as pending a merge, because it's obviously not currently under discussion. I felt there was a slight edge to those who recommended a merge in the 2010 discussion, but it wasn't overwhelming, and it's too old to really hold any precedent anyway. And, perhaps the article's been improved and differentiated from the merge target since then. Making a bold edit is the easiest way to see if there's been any sort of solidifying of consensus either way in the intervening time, so long as you don't edit war if you're reverted. Qwyrxian (talk) 23:45, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
- Qwyrxian, thanks. I was actually opposed to merging (diff) and I am involved in this dispute within particularly sensitive and controversial topic. Are you sure it is appropriate for me to perform the merger? --Antidiskriminator (talk) 23:05, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
- Well, per WP:MERGE, if the consensus is clear, any neutral editor can close it, though if it's particularly controversial, admins can. That being said, given that no one actually acted on the merge proposal for 3 years, I don't think we can rely on that consensus being strong. Here's what I think the best way forward would be: Merge the contents, then redirect the article to the suggested target. If anyone reverts, accept that the merge is disputed, then start a new merge discussion (referring to the prior one) and ask for that one to be closed by an admin. In that case, a clear judgement of consensus for a merge would override individual objections. I'll put the article on my watchlist to monitor. Qwyrxian (talk) 22:16, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Yaya (military)
On 20 November 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Yaya (military), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that many members of the Yaya infantry units of the Ottoman military, were of Christian origin? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Yaya (military). You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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DYK nomination of Muzaka family
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DYK for Nikola Radonja
On 24 November 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Nikola Radonja, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that 14th-century Serbian noblemen Nikola Radonja and Antonije Bagaš bought Agiou Pavlou monastery at Mount Athos and reconstructed it? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nikola Radonja. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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DYK for Muzaka family
On 25 November 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Muzaka family, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the grandfather of Ali Pasha was a sanjakbey of the Sanjak of Avlona and a member of the Muzaka family? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Muzaka family. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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DYK nomination Smilja Avramov
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DYK for Smilja Avramov
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Please comment on Talk:Liao Dynasty
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Ћао
Изволи [1] 94.196.240.223 (talk) 00:45, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 07:18, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
- "Warning" issued to two editors (link) was indeed not registered on WP:ARBMAC page. Maybe because "warning" was put under quotation marks. Anyway, I don't think that one warning more or less makes much difference in case of both editors in question.
- Start from 1:39 (link)--Antidiskriminator (talk) 07:38, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) No, the word "warned" wasn't put under quotation marks but bolded. The first requires actual marks for quotation to be used i.e. "word", the second uses triple apostrophes on both sides of the word i.e. '''word''' (something about this here). So, this was probably an actual warning. --biblbroks (talk) 18:57, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
- Yes. You are right. Thanks for clarification. I misidentified triple apostrophes with quotation marks (though quotation marks would not make much difference). Anyway, I still don't think that one warning more or less makes much difference in case of both editors in question. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 19:31, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
- I don't understand now when I look a bit more closely. AFAICT this isn't one warning: the edit offered by the anon on this page mentions some three warnings. So these would constitute three logs for three warnings, right? All in one repetitious edit that was repetitiously removed but containing three logs of three warnings. Am I missing something? --biblbroks (talk) 22:37, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
- OIC now. Sorry for disturbance and all the best to you. --biblbroks (talk) 22:50, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
- Yes. You are right. Thanks for clarification. I misidentified triple apostrophes with quotation marks (though quotation marks would not make much difference). Anyway, I still don't think that one warning more or less makes much difference in case of both editors in question. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 19:31, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) No, the word "warned" wasn't put under quotation marks but bolded. The first requires actual marks for quotation to be used i.e. "word", the second uses triple apostrophes on both sides of the word i.e. '''word''' (something about this here). So, this was probably an actual warning. --biblbroks (talk) 18:57, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you
Thank you so much Antidiskriminator for the Anti-flame barnstar, I really appreciate it. I am also very grateful to you for your interest and contributions to the Ottoman Empire POV discussion. --Rskp (talk) 23:11, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Kosovo Myth
On 30 November 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kosovo Myth, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Kosovo Myth pictures Serbia as Antemurale Christianitatis, similarly to constructions of the other nations in the Balkans? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kosovo Myth. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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Autorska prava na području bivše Jugoslavije
Ne znam da li si video, na srpskohrvatskoj Wikipediji smo pokrenuli stranicu sh:Wikipedia:Autorska prava na području bivše Jugoslavije kako bismo jednom za svagda rešili pitanje autorskih prava fotografija i ostalih dela nastalih u bivšoj Jugoslaviji. Pošto vidim da često postavljaš fotografije rekoh da te obavestim. Pozdrav! --Mladifilozof (talk) 13:47, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for notification. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:55, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Riga supermarket roof collapse
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Merge discussion for Osmanoğlu family
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Kosovo Precedent POVfork discussion
Hi, in your undo you referred to a delete decision. However, there is no record of this on the talk page - just lots of people pointing out that the article appears to be a POVfork that should be merged. Can you provide a link to the delete discussion? FOARP (talk) 11:30, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi. I donąt know if zou noticed this, but the link you posted was a link to a page called "Controversy over Kosovo Independence". Where is the link to the discussion on the Kosovo Precedent? FOARP (talk) 16:11, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Sarajevo frenzy of hate
Hi, Antidiskriminator. Thanks for all the work you've done recently on Schutzkorps. I've noticed that you are making a draft of an article titled Sarajevo frenzy of hate and would like to ask if you could rename it Sarajevo Pogrom or Sarajevo anti-Serb pogrom strictly out of neutrality reasons. If you think of an even better (or more neutral title) then feel free to suggest it. Thanks, 23 editor (talk) 17:48, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
- That was actually my intention. Andrićs name is only a working title.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 17:51, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
Perfect. Good luck with the article. 23 editor (talk) 17:53, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 17:54, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
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Out of interest...
...why doesn't the Đakovica article contain the word Đakovica and its Cyrillic spelling in the infobox, instead merely displaying Gjakova? 188.29.106.174 (talk) 11:01, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
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WikiProject Serbia
I think we should put the Montenegrin monasteries-task on hold for now; there are far more important things that WPSR should take care of! I have come across numerous stubs and/or duplicate articles that need merging, as well as countless articles with no Cleanup template messages - I think it is time for the members to start using these template messages. I would like to begin a new cooperation with you (and any other interested), this time we should choose any Vital Topic directly related to Serbia or Serbs (which could also be chosen from the Serbian popular pages). What do you think?--Zoupan 11:34, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
- Isa
- It is not Isa, see this image, it is clearly not him, this person is older, and thinner, and there was several Kosovan Serbs or even people from way afar who bore Albanian dress (as a tactical or fashion-wise decision). I fail to find anything on Boletini joining the Chetniks during these years.--Zoupan 05:40, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue XCIII, December 2013
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Wilhelm Zahn
Hi Antidiscriminator. Thank you very much for your DYK review. I really appreciate it. This is to let you know that I have done the QPQ. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 19:00, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
59.41.252.226
You are free to go try to reason with this person, but don't expect everyone else to want to suffer through that kind of WP:NOTHERE nonsense. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 19:21, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
- Joy I noticed that this is not the first time you mention my name on ANI to imply my misdeeds. I would appreciate if you would not continue with it in future.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 20:31, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Joy said that you defended 59.41.252.226 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). This is you defending 59.41.252.226. If you object to people accusing you of defending pov-pushers, I imagine the most logical response would be to stop defending pov-pushers. Doing it anyway then complaining about third parties on your talkpage is not a good way forward. bobrayner (talk) 20:44, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
- The worst implication about you by me saying you defended this IP's behavior was that you were gullible. In retrospect, so was I - if I had immediately gone to check for the open proxy behavior, I could have saved us the trouble. Instead, I opted to assume a modicum of good faith and not to bite the newcomer :) --Joy [shallot] (talk) 21:03, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas (if you celebrate it) and Happy New Year! Greetings, Norden1990 (talk) 21:53, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Seasons Greetings
Thanks you very much for the lovely Казандиби, and your wishes. I hope you have a very happy festive season too. All the best, --Rskp (talk) 00:00, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Petrič Fortress
On 24 December 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Petrič Fortress, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that King of Serbia Stefan Dečanski fled to Petrič Fortress when his son Stefan Dušan tried to overthrow him in 1331? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Petrič Fortress. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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ANI
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. --◅ PRODUCER (TALK) 01:53, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for notifying me.
- In your report you mentioned "frustrations" and "limited patience" (diff). A formal WP:RM would actually save you from your "frustrations" and "limited patience" of informal discussion.
- When you emphasized that editor who supported your position was actually of Serb ethnicity (diff) you actually proved that your concerns about ethnicity based voting were unjustified.
- The above two points are additional reasons to go to formal WP:RM, not only in this case, but also in similar future cases. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 10:15, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
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Hello
Hello, I am an anonymous contributor to Wiki. I was declared to be a sock so my edits were removed. It would not be such a big deal, but this time my constructive criticism was removed not from the article, but from the talk page of the article: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AKosovo_War&diff=587497816&oldid=587497406
Anyway, I defended sourced content and I would really appreciate it if you could restore the facts (be it on the talk page or the article itself).
I know you probably hate to be involved in such a thing - the edit-wars, the confrontations with (un)reasonable people etc., but I would really appreciate it. TaaTaa 109.106.234.94 (talk) 15:49, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
- Even if the sources you used would be available for me to verify them I would still hesitate to do what you asked me because it would be exceptional claim which requires exceptional sources (which sources you used are not). Additionally, the text you added directly contradicts from what I have read about this subject. I have read in more than one source that NATO and UCK did whatever they could to prevent *completely unnecessary) massive participation of Mujaheddin forces in this war to avoid additionally compromising themselves. If I am not wrong, only small insignificant Mujaheddin forces managed to take part in this war so I don't think it is worth mentioning. On the contrary, it should probably be emphasized within separate subsection how much efforts NATO and UCK placed to prevent Mujaheddin participation. This topic is not my main subject of interest so I don't have intention to significantly contribute to it. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 16:17, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Ma da budem iskren nisam ni ja to dodao nego sam samo vraćao na staro, nego me nervira kada se obriše bez objašnjenja samo zato što se nekome ne sviđa. A po tome bi mogli i da brišemo i one ruske dobrovoljce na našoj strani, ni njih nije baš bilo na "iljade". U svakom slučaju, hvala. :) TaaTaa 109.106.234.94 (talk) 16:24, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
A vala ne mora ni da mi se briše komentar na talk page, to je baš bezveze. 109.106.234.94 (talk) 16:25, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
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Ottoman defters
Hi, do you have any source where I can check all Ottoman defters related to Albania? Are they all digitalized? Thanks.Mondiad (talk) 15:57, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) What kind of defters do you have in mind? There were different defters for different purposes. Are you looking for tahrir defterleri or something else?
- However, it may be unrealistic to expect that all defter material for an entire vilayet or eyalet would have been preserved and digitised. bobrayner (talk) 23:22, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- Hi. I am looking for tax-paying defteris, whatever the name would be in Turkish. Also, were there defteris for population registers, similar to a census as well?Mondiad (talk) 16:28, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
- Hello Mondiad. I think that the only Ottoman defter of Albania was composed in 1432 and researched and published by Halil İnalcık in 1954. (İnalcık, Halil; Arşivi, Başbakanlık (1954), "Hicrî 835 tarihli Sûret-i defter-i sancak-i Arvanid" [Copy of the register for A.H. 835 for the Sanjak of Albania], Türk Tarih Kurumu yayınları (in Turkish), vol. 14, no. 1, Ankara)--Antidiskriminator (talk) 18:20, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks!Mondiad (talk) 16:04, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
- Hello Mondiad. I think that the only Ottoman defter of Albania was composed in 1432 and researched and published by Halil İnalcık in 1954. (İnalcık, Halil; Arşivi, Başbakanlık (1954), "Hicrî 835 tarihli Sûret-i defter-i sancak-i Arvanid" [Copy of the register for A.H. 835 for the Sanjak of Albania], Türk Tarih Kurumu yayınları (in Turkish), vol. 14, no. 1, Ankara)--Antidiskriminator (talk) 18:20, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
- Hi. I am looking for tax-paying defteris, whatever the name would be in Turkish. Also, were there defteris for population registers, similar to a census as well?Mondiad (talk) 16:28, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Stefan Marinović
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Welcome to the 2014 WikiCup!
Hello Antidiskriminator, and welcome to the 2014 WikiCup! Your submission page can be found here. The competition will begin at midnight tonight (UTC). There have been a few small changes from last year; the rules can be read in full at Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring, and the page also includes a summary of changes. One important rule to remember is that only content on which you have completed significant work, and nominated, in 2014 is eligible for points in the competition- the judges will be checking! As ever, this year's competition includes some younger editors. If you are a younger editor, you are certainly welcome, but we have written an advice page at Wikipedia:WikiCup/Advice for younger editors for you. Please do take a look. Any questions should be directed to one of the judges, or left on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup. Signups will close at the end of January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will make it to round 2. Good luck! J Milburn (talk · contribs), The ed17 (talk · contribs) and Miyagawa (talk · contribs) 17:32, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Did you know nominations/2014 Snapchat hack
Could you kindly put forward an alternate hook? I couldn't actually get you in that. Thanks! Ethically (Yours) 12:37, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Andrea Cambini
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Re: Me
Are you finally preparing a complaint against me, as you have made empty threats in the past? Because I can't find any other reason for all these recent disingenuous notices, other than for them to serve as a stick with which to later beat me with. I did not confront you or inhibit your work, insofar as the implication of bad faith - I have clearly stated some problems that you have created, and corrected a fair few as well. I'm not wikistalking you - I simply have a large number of pages on my watchlist, among which article alerts for several WikiProjects that we both frequent. Such is the nature of collaborative editing - people are bound to notice what you do, whether you like it or not. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 20:04, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
- You don't recall how you accused me of admin misconduct a while ago? In any case, I don't have that much free time so I'd prefer to do something productive rather than search for that diff now. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 20:02, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
- My God, do you really think it's useful to be obstinate about this now? And when I do waste the time to find those edits, what productive result can we get from that? --Joy [shallot] (talk) 17:24, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- Thankfully, googling is pretty fast - Talk:Noel Malcolm/Archive 2. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 17:26, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- You accused me of repeatedly acting in a problematic manner, and pointed to rules saying how that should be sanctioned. When I told you to go get it done, you didn't actually do anything. That was the empty threat that I was referring to. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 18:08, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
DYK for Anti-Serb pogrom in Sarajevo
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Pelinus
Would you mind discussing this move here? Thanks! --Perkohesisht ai i vjetri (talk) 21:34, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
DYK for Andrea Cambini
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The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
The ban has been lifted per your appeal on my talk page. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 06:10, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Momcilo Gavric
Hi, I have found a topic which might interest you: Momčilo Gavrić (soldier)
I have recently re-written and expanded this article, as well as uploaded pictures to Commons. Do you have access to more material regarding him?
The following newspapers should contain info about Gavric, but I can't find any online versions of these on the web:
- Politika, 1983-10-16
- Politika, 1993-04-29
There are also two books described in the article, which I have only found book reviews of.
Best regards - Anonimski (talk) 17:51, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, I know, that's the same problem I encountered when searching... Anonimski (talk) 19:36, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll see if I can integrate them into the article. When it comes to the images, I have already uploaded the ones that are old enough to be in the PD. Anonimski (talk) 20:11, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
DYK for Ratac Abbey
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The DYK project (nominate) 09:08, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
re: Noble families by nationality
I agree on principle, but 1) Category:Noble families needs some for of grouping cleanup. If you think that by country or such would be better, go ahead and CfD it for renaming. That said, I think it's a technicality that we cannot deal with. We divide people by nationality, despite the same problem (that nationality gets iffy if we travel centuries back). We do the same thing for regular families (see Category:Families by nationality). And note that "XX noble families" are a subcat to "XX families", anyway (ex. Category:Polish noble families is a sub to Polish families, itself a sub to families by nationality. So my new category is simply a technical cleanup, adding a missing middle level. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:36, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
- I explained to you why I disagree. If you want my edits undone, take it to CfD. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:06, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
- The usage of this category is quite uncontroversial as I already explained in my first post here, which I deem very clear. If you disagree, please take this category to CfD. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 20:33, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
Please stop edit warring, I'll ask you once again to take this to CfD. Otherwise I'll have to report you for disruptive editing. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 20:44, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
- It's mass reverting of another editors' work which encourages conflict. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 20:56, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Antidiskriminator has a good point here. Too much of our content is shoehorned into "national" pigeonholes, but noble families generally belong to an era before such simplistic nationalism; they transcend national boundaries, to the extent that modern nationality existed at all in the centuries when many of these familes were most notable. We need to put less emphasis on nationality, not more. "We divide people by nationality" is part of the problem, not part of the solution. bobrayner (talk) 20:59, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps we got off on the wrong foot; we are both trying to improve this project, after all. I started a wider discussion, let's see what the community thinks. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 21:17, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry. This is probably the first time I have ever agreed with Antidiskriminator, it must be disorienting for everyone bobrayner (talk) 22:10, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
Myzeqe
Hi Anti., wish you happy new year! By the way I've noticed you edited that article. The etymology section appears completely fringe, more like an old folklore based on primary non-wp:rs material. Hope you are ok with this removal.Alexikoua (talk) 19:50, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
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I noticed you have edited the article, Chetniks. After removing references and referenced information three times, user:User:2A00:C440:20:27E:248A:3A23:609F:A121 has initiated a discussion concerning the fictional[2] and bias[3],[4] of Sabrina Ramet's book, The Three Yugoslavias: State-Building and Legitimation, 1918–2005. I thought you might be interested in this issue. Thanks. --Kansas Bear (talk) 21:14, 19 January 2014 (UTC) Dear Antidiskriminator please,dont write serbian lies about Prek Cali. These things which you wrote are completely lies. He fought against serbians,ottomans,and communists. He was against serbia and he wasnt anti muslim. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlbertBikaj (talk • contribs) 12:34, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
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Third League of Prizren
Hi,
I was about to mark the article above for deletion, but then I saw your name as one of the editors.
I don't find "Third League of Prizren" being ever mentioned in Albanian sources. Nothing. The recent meeting Thaci-Rama in Prizren was ironically name "Third League of Prizren" from the opponents, to make fun of them.[1] No Third League of Prizren exists, at least not from those who are supposed to have created it.The article has definitely issues and I don't see how to bring it neutral if certain things hardly ever happened.
I.e. "1954—1957. Groups for diversions and terrorist acts were infiltrated from Albania into territory of Yugoslavia, killing government officials and terrorized Serbian population of Kosovo" -Actually it was the other way around, British intelligence was sending insurgents through Yugoslavia into Albania. Furthermore, how can it be a League of Prizren, if it allegedly took place somewhere in US.
The main issue is that all the it is based on one sided material.
Mondiad (talk) 13:43, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
Prenk Cali was a leader of the great northern Albanian tribe of Kelmendi, a life dedicated to protecting and defending his people and their way of life against all those that dared enter his land. He fought against the imperialism of the Turks, the nationalism of the Serbs, and was one of the first martyr’s against communism. He is officially Albnaian national hero,and he never cooperate with chetniks,these storys were written after his death by communists. Please dont use communist books for references,because second them Gjergj Fishta,Anton Harapi,and Prek Cali are traitors and this is not the truth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlbertBikaj (talk • contribs) 00:31, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
Regarding Convergence of accounting standards
Hello! Thanks for initiating the GA review. Would you like me to reply to the remarks on the talk page as you go along, or to reply them all in one go after you have finished the review? -Well-restedTalk 20:40, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
- Hey thanks for the reply. I'll try to reply to the points on the talk page as you go along. I should be able to comment and make changes once every two days (at most). :) --Well-restedTalk 20:57, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
Congratulations
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For your excellent work on Battle of Banja Koviljača article. FkpCascais (talk) 09:33, 25 January 2014 (UTC) |
Thank you!--Antidiskriminator (talk) 09:39, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
2013 census
Can you take a look at [5] - lots of number changes mentioning a 2013 census but no source. Seems a bit early for the results of a census last year, but maybe there is such a source.Dougweller (talk) 10:01, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for your post. I also raised it at User talk:FkpCascais who has posted to the editor's talk page. It does need sourcing somehow. Dougweller (talk) 10:45, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
Re: Unjustified accusation
How much more do you think I can take of this? Seriously now. How is all this wikilawyering for an arbitrary POV pusher and goading me helping the encyclopedia? --Joy [shallot] (talk) 19:14, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
- I did not support any of two editors who edit warred to pushed their point of view at Template talk:Yugoslav Front. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:57, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
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POV warrior
This user is renaming articles on Wikipedia, removing every mention of Serbia, and removing template where kosovo status is explained. He is classic warrior, and his edits should be removed and reverted. All of his edits should be reverted, and articles should be restored to original names. React now! --93.63.141.183 (talk) 21:55, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
- Why is that supposed to be my responsibility? You should have written this comment at WP:AN.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:59, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
WikiCup 2014 January newsletter
The 2014 WikiCup is off to a flying start, with, at time of writing, 138 participants. The is the largest number of participants we have seen since 2010. If you are yet to join the competition, don't worry- the judges have agreed to keep the signups open for a few more days. By a wide margin, our current leader is newcomer Godot13 (submissions), whose set of 14 featured pictures, the first FPs of the competition, was worth 490 points. Here are some more noteworthy scorers:
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- TheAustinMan (submissions) scored the first bonus points of the competition, for his work on Typhoon Vera.
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Yaya
Hi Antidiscriminator, Thanks for the well developed article Yaya (military). In the article a certain Alaeddin Pasha was mentioned and linked. However there were two Alaeddinn Pasha's in the early 14th century. The target of the link is Orhan's brother. But according to Prof. Halil İnalcık, the link should point to Alaeddin Pasha (vizier). Cheers Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 20:52, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
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