User talk:AtilimGunesBaydin/Archive1

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Olsen twins

I found this page while browsing, and it appears to be written in Turkish. Since I do not understand what it says, I don't know if it contains useful content. If it is relevant content, would you be willing to translate it? If it is not relevant content, please let me know and I will rewrite the article in English. The_Adventures_of_Mary-Kate_&_Ashley:_The_Case_of_the_Christmas_Caper CanadaGirl 18:21, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Selam

Selam , Türk karşıtı kullanıcı Khoikhoi ingilizce wikipedia'da adminlik için şansını deniyor.Daha fazla türk gelirse bunu engelleyebiliriz. Oyunu burdan kullanabilirsin Teşekkürler. (85.97.143.5 18:05, 26 March 2006 (UTC))

Turkish name

Hi. I noticed that you speak Turkish. Can you please add a Turkish name for this old Ottoman province into this article: Elayet of Temesvar. If you do not know this name, can you tell me who of the Wikipedia users might know? Thank you. PANONIAN (talk) 00:18, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

ODTÜ

I noticed you did a really great job on that article. However, it would be really good if the article also could include the events in the late 70's and early 80's. So this is a little suggestion if you have the time and knowledge / sources. Saygılar Bertilvidet 08:13, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the answer. I am sorry for the mess I made while inserting the new photo - thought it would like better from the beginning. I dont have any special feelings for the photo - so feel free to replace it. And, compared to other Turkish university articles - for instance our main rivals at Bogazici University - the ODTÜ article is rather comprehensive. Kolay gelsin - hoppas du njutar av livet i Sverige! Bertilvidet 07:50, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Turkish

Hi. I would appreciate it if you could translate a copyright tag from the Turkish Wikipedia for me. I will ask a couple of other Turkish speakers as well so if someone else has alreayd responded on my talk page thats fine. The page in question is at http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resim:06-Ankara_ili_konumu.png I am particularly interested in how the image can be from teh Turkish government and also under the GFDL. --Martyman-(talk) 05:45, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Merhaba

Wikipedia:WikiProject Turkey --Kagan the Barbarian 20:32, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Central Asia

Hi, I'm trying to start some sort of working group to improve the coverage of Central Asia and related topics in Wikipedia. Leave a message on my userpage if you're interested. Aelfthrytha 03:03, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Central Asia

WikiProject Central Asia has finally been created! If you're interested, please consider joining us. Aelfthrytha 21:56, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

İlham Əliyev

Hi,

This is a message I try to send to every Turkish native speaker about a dispute I have on Wikipedia about the spelling of Azerbaijani proper names. In this dispute, some people find unbearable that the President of Azerbaijan is spelled "İlham Əliyev". Their argument is that "Ə" is not an English letter, so Azerbaijani language doesn't use the Latin alphabet and so the article can't be named with such a spelling. And they propose to rename this article into "Ilham Aliyev" (note they don't propose to rename it into "İlham Aliyev", nor into "İlham Äliyev").

I'm strongly against the move, because either it means every foreign names with diacritics or special letters must have a name with only the 26 letters of the English alphabet (ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ) and such articles as "Charlotte Brontë", "Leoš Janáček", "İsmet İnönü" or "Derviş Eroğlu" must be renamed "Charlotte Bronte", "Leos Janacek", "Ismet Inonu" and "Dervis Eroglu", or even "Dervish Eroghlu" ; or it means only Azerbaijani names are concerned and it is a move specifically against Azerbaijani names, because Azerbaijani doesn't use the Latin alphabet.

If you have an opinion about it, you can vote and read the arguments on Talk:İlham_Əliyev#Survey_on_move. I thank you in advance. Švitrigaila 00:12, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Translation

Hi. Thanks for helping out, I'm aware that Turkish grammar has its complications. Look at User:Soman/Lang-Help-test if it looks resonable. --Soman 05:39, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Turkish Lang Reformat.

Hey, I have a question about the reversion you made on the Turkish Language page. If the changes I made were irrelevant, I apologize, but, in regards to readability, I found it much easier to read when the text was not in the boxes. The italics and the colors make it kind of confusing...is there a preferred format to be used? I just wish there was a better way to box text withotu that particular drawback.--Kızılderili 00:43, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, AGB. I totally agree on the textbox thing. If we can find a better way, that'd be good. It's nice to meet you too. As you can tell from my userpage, I am not actually Turkish, but I have a bit of a complex. My singing teacher and good friend is (well, a Greek), but her husband is Turkish, and the family is Türkçe speaking. The mother and I are both from the south, and when I told her I was of Native American descent, she started to call me Kızılderili, which was quickly shortened to Kızıl canım. And so began my Turkish infatutation. lol.--Kızılderili 04:53, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

master vos'tan (: hehe

mesajini demin almis bulunmaktayim da simdi cevap vereyim dedim. infobox band'i daha yaygin bir sekilde goruyordum ve acikcasi daha cok seviyordum. dusununce de band'in daha cok uyduguna karar verdim musical artist'le kiyaslarsan ama radikal bir secimim yok. eger boyle bir projen varsa hic karismam zaten. ancak madem boyle birsey yapmayi dusunuyorsun, o zaman infobox band'in sayfasina bunu belirtebilirsin, boylece yeni yapicak insanlar bunu tercih etmezler. sinirlenmis valla. pardon. (: --Quinlan Vos 15:49, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Merhaba

Merhaba, Can you translate my userpage in what ever language you know, I would be very grateful if you do and can you check the article Cuisine of Somaliland which i created as some anynmous users are vandalising it. Abdullah Geelah 14:13, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Names of European cities in different languages

I have added a comment on their talkpage, but it's not my private article, i.e. you can likewise tell them about the situation. But of course I would always support and explain the consensus as long as it stands. Crix 10:25, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Many thanks for helping fend off the vandals while Gregorian chant was on the main page. I wasn't prepared for the level of vandalism. It's heartening to know how efficient and diligent you WP admins and editors are to revert it! Peirigill 07:10, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Agop Dilaçar & Turkish Language Association

Hey, great job on the articles! I enjoyed reading them. —Khoikhoi 00:18, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome, sleep would be a good idea... —Khoikhoi 00:28, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi, first all of thank you for your comments, i strongly agree with you in most places. Now, its 06:55 in Ankara, and i'm rather sleepy, but we can contact each other anytime you want. I'll try to write something now, maybe tomorrow i'll continue. Years ago (6 or 7) i interested in Turkish Language (linguistics and history) and i got some resources. Some of them are stored in my database. I've just searched the name Agop in my computer and found one of them. It is related with the 3. Language Conference "3. Dil Kurultayi" dated as 31.08.1936 (written in both Turkish and French). It was related with "sun language theory", and there are many Turkish contributors along with Agop Dilacar and also foreigners. Most of them are unfortunately unknown to our community. You're certainly right, what happened especially between 1923 to 1938? As far as i know Atatürk supported Turkish Language (also Sumerian, Hatti,...) and Turkish History (also Anatolian history, archeology, antropology) studies himself and contributed almost all of them. For this reason, Atatürk's own archive maybe the best place to be researched. However, along with Atatürk, we know that there are many other contributors, but the information about them is also missing. We can communicate each other to share information. I've a terrible habbit that i always try to save my documents. I'll find them alhough years have passed. By the way, we can also contact each other via e-mail. Sorry, i'm really very tired and very sleepy. I even do not know how reach my bed, cause i'm in my office at the Physics Department of Middle East Technical University. e104421 Good night or good morning :) Not: Neden Turkce yazmadigimi sorma.

Merhaba!

Hi, and I hope I have used the suitable word in Turkish. Thank you for your message. The image you made was much neeeded. In the greek wikipedia we have translated most of the article on the Turkish language and I have done much work on it. So this was a good addition. One possible mistake Image:MapOfTurkishSpeakers.png is that at the legend you have listed Macedonia both at the countries with Turkish as official language and at 25,000-100,000 category. Generally, in the greek wikipedia we are trying to expand articles on languages spoken in Greece and so now the article on Turkish is probably one of the most detailed. Unfortunately, I do not speak the language (though my grandmother, a pontic greek was a native level speaker and my mother still uses some words), but I have an academic linguistics backround which helps and I strongly believe that the multilingual past and present of the Balkans should be highlighted.

Your article on Turkish Language Association is highly informative too. Really, did you know that the adoption of latin alphabet in Turkey caused an effort by greek intellectuals afterwards to adopt the latin alphabet for greek language too?

all the best,--Michkalas 15:31, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I passed the changes to the map you made to the greek wikipedia. In the USSR and the ex-USSR countries their was a powerful language shift to russian. For example, an important number of immigrants of greek origin came to Greece from ex-USSR after 1991 and claimed to speak greek, but, in fact, they can only understand and speak russian. So generally I am cautious with numbers of speakers from the ex-USSR. More generally, I believe the number of speakers given in wikipedia or elsewhere is more of a hint than the actual situation.

It is true that my grandmother came to Greece with the Lausanne population exchange. It was sad and difficult times for both sides of the Aegean, especially for ordinary people. And it is really even more sad that sometimes today people seem to forget the catastrophic effects of such controversies and are been carried away by nationalistic feelings. Unforunately, Wikipedia also becomes part of this kind of controversies, but it is nice to know that there are also people around, lots of them, who don't want to coordinate in this politics of hatred. All the best, --Michkalas 13:21, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Feza Gursey & Sultan Catto

Thanks for improving the article.

The Turks I'm friends with are wonderful people.

I knew personally Feza Gursey in New Haven Connecticut.

Great man, not just a great Physicist. His probably greatest student was Sultan Catto --not only a great Physicist --but the most wonderful human being I have ever met--from a moral point of view!!!

Anyway, I've created his page from scratch by mayself

after working on Feza Gursey.

Would it be improper for me to ask you to check it out?

He's an expert in Group Theory. And I'm happy to say--my best friend. He happens to be Karachai. Do you know anything about these Turkic peoples?

Anyway, thanks again for your input.

Yours truly, Ludvikus 19:52, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. By your name I think you yourself are Turkish, no? I just finished editing a bit the Karachai article for its English. And I put in the hypothesis that I'm related to these people because my people sometimes claim descent, not from the Karachai, but from the Khazars. So are you a Swede? It is a place I really want to visit--I think more than any other. Nere, in New York City I am newly acquainted with some Swedes. May I as--out of curiousity... No, let me interject. Im a novice WP --only born a [[Wikipedian on August 31, 2006!!! It's so addictive. My quest is--if it's not unWikipedian, are you a Turkish Physicist? Yours truly, Ludvikus 22:21, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments--and advice.

I am embarrassed by my misspelling of Sweden's name. But Wikipedia does have a "Sweed" article. Can you advise me, or explain, how to use a spell checker within Wikipedia? Yours truly, Ludvikus 23:23, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Turkish language

Hi Atılım, I'm sorry if I came across as a know-it-all, in the future I will add "correct me if I'm wrong..." or similar things to statements which I am unsure of. Sorry again...at least there are no hard feelings (I hope). —Khoi khoi 01:51, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

I understand, cheers. —Khoi khoi 04:56, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

So what do you think? :)

I did a major rewrite of the article Constitution_of_Turkey, it is more informative and better than even the constitution of France! I will add the info about the past constitutions as well after I have made some research.. Cheers!Baristarim 12:42, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I fixed the link, I got a good one at that.. it is a complete review of the TC by the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights.. [1] As for history, i will see to it tomorrow.. Have to go out :) Baristarim 14:03, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Have a look at Turkish_Constitution_of_1921 :)) I am working on the C of 1924 and will start working on C of 1961 (that one can take sometime).. Baristarim 04:19, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

That list was technically approved under the C of 1924 (3 days after its ratification), so I was thinking of adding it to the article about C of 1924 actually, what do you think? That article isn't ready yet, but I will put it up this evening.. Baristarim 10:35, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Yep I know :) I forgot to create it that way for this article and later put the Turkish text directly there just to help me translate.. The problem is that I have been busy with other stuff, so I couldn't get around to it, so it ended up staying there.. I removed the text for now, I will translate it and complete definitely for tomorrow.. I will first write the article for the Constitution of 1961 in my user page.. I have also created the category:constitutions of Turkey, I am planning for a couple of articles actually, a general overview of Turkish constitutional history and et al.. I will also add a timeline section for the current constitution as well.. Unfortunately, I have to go to sleep!! cheers! Baristarim 21:58, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

It's ok :), I actually enjoy doing that you know, gives me the opportunity to escape from the debates of some of the other hot articles of Wiki :)) I will definitely get around to it by tomorrow.. Baristarim 22:01, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Reply

Selam Atılım. Bir şey değil. ;-) No, I only know a few words of Turkish—I like the language, however. I suppose I learn more as I go along, however. One of the first phrases I learned was "kolay gelsin", so...kolay gelsin. —Khoi khoi 23:48, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm, is that because of their computer's limitations? Hoşçakal! —Khoi khoi 00:35, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Hahaha, no problem. I found it somewhat amusing that there are websites dedicated to correcting Turkish grammar. Perhaps it's slang? I do know one slang prhase: kuyruklu yalan ("lie with a tail", right?). Anyways, in English you probably know there are similar cases. Many people get lazy and write "thru" instead of "through" because it's easier. To me it doesn't really matter that much, but because it's easy to write it becomes more widespread. I did manage to find some websites about it, however. —Khoi khoi 02:52, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Seljuq_dynasty

Iki tane iranli durmadan bu sayfayi karistirip Selcuklular Turk degil Iranliydi, Turkçe degil Iranca konusuyorlardi babinda laflar ekliyorlar, bu yuzden sayfa protected oldu, bir tek bazi yabanci tarihçiler onlari onlemeye calisyorlar ne yazik ki hiç Turk yok.. Ben de daha yeni goruyorum.. Talk page'i feci POV dolu.. Sayfa biraz ilgiye ihtiyaç duyabilir.. POV pushing, eh? Read this [2] even non-Turkish historians had enough!! Baristarim 02:12, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Phew, I am sorry that I still couldn't get the TC of 1924 and 61 up.. I have been way too busy, there is so much to do :)) I took another look at and updated the current constit article though.. Good idea with the picture for the TC21 article, I was actually thinking of the same thing, simple text is too bayat :)) Hopefully I will get those articles up today or tomorrow. Baristarim 09:00, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, as u wish.. I was just trying to create a template to link all the Turkey articles together since we still dont have seperate templates for different subjects except politics and foreign relations (since yesterday).. I think that more templates are needed, so I thought that this was the best solution until a better review later.. I also think there shouldn't be other articles listed under see also, but I didn't have the time to design all the subtemplates that we need (arts in Turkey, religion in Turkey, demographics of tr, military of tr etc) in order for those other articles listed under see also to be removed, so I put them there as a temporary solution without removing other entries (i was aware of that, but i cannot do everything :))), at least this way it will be easier to keep track of articles until everything can be updated to a satisfactory status since they will be all interlinked.. The template looks to be in the middle, since most of the articles are gravely too short!! :)) u r right about other country articles that i mentioned, but dont forget that all those articles have many subtemplates that we dont have, so therefore they dont have the same problem of interlinking - we are still trying to get the basics sorted out :))) We still dont have articles art in Turkey, religion in Turkey etc. :)) What i did is not the ideal, i know, but I will try to keep on updating as we go along.. We should also try to get Wiki Project Turkey back on, nearly all Turkey related articles dont seem to be satisfactorily interlinked and therefore it is hard to work on improving them coz they are not organized under one heading.. cheers! Baristarim 15:00, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

BTW, I dont understand why u removed the template from Atatürk article, it would be relevant for there no? The only reason that I had removed the redundant see also links was because they were already well linked in the main boady of the article.. I will put back the template at the bottom of the article if it's ok :)) Baristarim 15:36, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Atatürk images

I think there are too many pictures (unsourced and also unnecessary) in the Atatürk article reducing the quality of the article. The aim is to give comprehensive information on Atatürk not to make the article a photo-album. E104421 12:23, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Done! E104421 13:03, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Just wait, i'm still editing! E104421 13:07, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I tried to added those images i removed as an image gallery but in this case the total size of the article exceeds the limits. Maybe better to distribute them to other articles such as Grand National Assembly, Ismet Inonu, Eleftherios Venizelos...etc. E104421 13:31, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

All right, still too many but to compromise, i personally could live with those images. Regards, E104421 13:44, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

OK, then, returning to the Altaic Controversy, i'm still supporting the removal of the "(disputed)" tags, maybe better to carry the tag to "see also" section. I temporarily made a slight change in the table of the Turkish language article as a trial. What do you think on that? E104421 14:01, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Istanbul

MErhaba istanbulun diğer isimleri şeklinde link olarak kısalttım zaten bir daha tekrarlamanın gereği olmadığını düşünüyorum.--Profesor 13:25, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Problematic image caption in Atatürk article

Merhaba Atılım, I've left a comment at the talk page. İyiyim. :-) —Khoi khoi 22:10, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi!

I've just seen your message because a message like You have a new message hasn't appeared, same happened in my Turkish account too. Anyway thank-you for your greeting, we hope you visit the Turkish Wikipedia more. How is it, living in Sweden as a Turk? Take care, Bahar 16 October 2006 (I've written the message in English because you wrote me in English, you can look what articles I've opened from the list on my account, there are Swedes, including the current priminister too.)

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bahar101 (talk) 19:13, 16 October 2006.

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please kindly consider

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.125.233.82 (talk) 02:20, 19 October 2006.

Re: Another "can you?"

Sure, I've left a comment at Talk:Turkey. I have to say that I like your new map...hopefully there aren't any more disagreements. Of course I accept your congratulations! Teşekkür ederim. BTW, if you have the time, would you be able to check out this and this? Do you think the anon's deletion was justified? Sağol in advance... Khoi khoi 03:03, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, thanks! I'm glad you could look into it. Cheers, Khoi khoi 23:21, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Altaic

Hi, You know my proposal "see Altaic controversy". Khoikhoi insisted on putting extra "disputed" notice which is misleading (what the is dispute is unclear in this way). I do not understand why he is so keen on this "disputed" warning, although in my version the controversy is also implied. Could you please also mention about this to him? I think he does not take my opinion seriously. Kind regards E104421 17:51, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Image:SebnemFerahPromotion.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:SebnemFerahPromotion.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:

Go to the image description page and edit it to add {{Replaceable fair use disputed}}, without deleting the original Replaceable fair use template.
On the image discussion page, write the reason why this image is not replaceable at all.

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If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified how these images fully satisfy our fair use criteria. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on this link. Note that any fair use images which are replaceable by free-licensed alternatives will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. --Chowbok ☠ 02:02, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

More replaceable fair use images

—Chowbok ☠ 06:44, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Promotional images

No, not every single one. In going through the promotional images, I have found many that are reasonable uses of fair-use. However, both of the pictures you mention are of currently alive and active musical performers, correct? People could easily go to their shows and take pictures of them, or even write them (or their management) and ask for photos licensed under terms we can use. Therefore we shouldn't be using fair-use images of them.

I think you might be looking at this the wrong way. All contributions, be they text, images, sounds, or whatever, need to be freely-reproduceable for all purposes, with a very few narrowly-defined exceptions. That's the one of the main purposes of Wikipedia. I don't see why these images should be among the few exceptions to the general rule. —Chowbok ☠ 22:51, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, to be fair, the tag does say it should only be used when "...a free image could not be created to replace it". But I certainly wouldn't object if you came up with a wording that you felt made it more clear. By all means bring it up at Template talk:Promophoto. —Chowbok ☠ 23:25, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Atatürk

Merheba Atılım. I'll do my best...I suppose I could leave another message at his talk page the next time he re-adds the links. You see, they are highly likely to be removed within a day anyways by anons, so I don't think it's that big of a problem. And no, non-admins cannot protect pages, simply adding the tag does nothing. As for the Türkçe infobox, no problem, I actually forgot! Saygılar, Khoi khoi 02:33, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Hahaha, I'm only of partial Romanian ancestry, and the userbox was really intended to be a joke. :-) I do have cousins still in Romania, however. Cheers, Khoi khoi 00:34, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Do you have any Hungarian friends? Khoi khoi 00:38, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Well, kolay gelsin! Khoi khoi 00:45, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Orphaned fair use image (Image:VegaPromotion.jpg)

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Fair use image use

I've reverted three of your edits and removed an image from your userpage due to fair use violations according to Wikipedia:Fair use criteria:

[3] I reverted this change because including the fair use party logos on a template violated item #9 of the above noted policy.
[4][5] I reverted these changes because using the fair use logos in that manner constitutes a decorative use which violates item #8 of the above noted policy.
(my edit) [6] I made this removal because the image in question was tagged as fair use, and use of such images on user pages is not permitted per item #9 of the above noted policy.

If you have any questions about these edits, feel free to ask. --Durin 22:23, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Indo-Iranian-speaking

Template:Indo-Iranian-speaking has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. --zaparojdik 23:26, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

MKA

Please take a look Talk:Mustafa Kemal Atatürk. Regards. Must ^TC 18:34, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Cooperation board launched

A new (and overdue) Greek and Turkish cooperation and notification board has been launched here. Stop by, have a look and sound off! Cheers! Baristarim 07:19, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Ordal Demokan

I have added some more to the biography section. Unfortunately it is very hard to find relevant references, most repeat the same things. Also I would like to add another section on his contributions to science, but being a physicist, it may be easier for you. I'm EE... Prof. Demokan was the co-supervisor for my master thesis when he passed away. So writing this article was in my mind for some time too. Regards, Firat --C6H12O6 23:23, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Chowbok RfC

I have begun RfC procedures for User:Chowbok. Since you've had previous disputes with him about image uploads, maybe you'd like to add your commentary? [7] TheQuandry 03:07, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

To Caliph or not to Caliph

Ok, I will try to keep an eye on them. And you are right, I am not sure that it would qualify as a very good idea :) Baristarim 03:50, 30 November 2006 (UTC)