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Regarding Draft:Christopher_Days_(album)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Christopher_Days_(album)

Hi thanks for looking at my article and bringing the issues to my attention. I have added some citations and requested it to be reviewed now.

Regards, Billy900

Billy900 (talk) 03:31, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Billy900 Greetings. I have reviewed the draft and it does not pass the notability guidelines required. Please read the comment and click on all the "blue highlighted texts" for more information and also pls read Wikipedia:NALBUMS requirements. Happy New Year.03:42, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Good afternoon. At a time when the number of active Wikipedians has been stagnant for half a decade and our project is having a hard time attracting new people, you are doing Wikipedia a massive disservice by moving new users' first articles to draftspace with no advance warning or offer to help whatsoever beyond an impersonal boilerplate text.

You are, of course, absolutely right to ask for add sources and citations. Verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia. And yet, in the time it took you to move that page and slap that boilerplate text onto his user talk page, you could have added a source to the article yourself to show him how it is done. You could have left him a personalised message offering help. You could have let him know that you were willing to answer any questions and clear up any doubts he may have had. Instead, you applied your standard scorched-earth tactics and moved on, while that user has not made a single edit since. Clap, clap, clap.

I get that you and the other good folks over at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation are trying to justify the existence of that pretentious little curtain-twitching project of yours, but please stop doing it in a way that discourages new editors and disrupts Wikipedia as a whole. Thank you and Happy New Year.--Leptictidium (mt) 14:50, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Leptictidium Good day. I am very well aware of not BITE newcomers; however, please do note that articles have no source in new page CAN be moved to draft space - please see WP:NPPDRAFT. Secondly, content without sources fails verifiability Wikipedia content policy which the article fails notability guidelines and not merit for a mainspace in Wikipedia. Lastly, please note that "All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution - please see WP:PROVEIT. If a user create a page in Wikipedia without source irregardless they are new or has editing Wikipedia for some years, then they should not be aware or careless to do the necessary to provide source and moving the articles to draft space so they may find the sources to support the content claimed is a right call. Thank you and Happy New Year. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:10, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
Again, you and I are on the same page regarding the need for sources and citations. The problem lies elsewhere: 1) new users should be told about the issues with their articles before said articles are moved to draftspace, and they should be given at least 24 hours to solve the problem before the articles are moved; 2) new users in this situation should receive a personalised message addressing their specific case and offering to provide help and answers, not an obvious boilerplate text that in no way makes them feel like they and their contributions are being valued; and 3) a few days after a new article is moved to draftspace, the reviewer who made the move should go back and make sure that the new user has not been discouraged from further editing. These are minor changes to your project's modus operandi that would make it much friendlier to new users while still ensuring high quality standards. Cheers.--Leptictidium (mt) 15:53, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
Leptictidium I am happy to know that we are on the same page when it comes to sourced content where citation as the means to satisfy WP:V and WP:PROVEIT guidelines. My takes on your later points would be somewhat different. (1) Article without sources should be moved to draft as for the very notion of it fails W:N, WP:V and content policy since after all Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. We have about 6 million articles in English Wikipedia and about 1/6 - 1/5 are in poor conditions and since you have been a Wikipedia editor for more than a decade you would have witnessed many unsourced articles remain in Wikipedia mainspace for many years and no editors are interested enough to help to provide sources or to AfD them. The editor should learn how to provide source which is the basic knowledge/requirement when an editor intend to write an article in Wikipedia.(2) The "move to draft" template message on the creator talk page is very friendly and informative and the creator could always send me a message for assistance or for clarification. When the creator submit the draft, a AfC reviewer would review the draft and sometimes a personal comment will be placed on the draft if the draft is declined. In addition, editor could go to AfC Help desk to seek assistance. (3) To check on what the editors edit made on the last few days daily is a admirable, proactive deed but it is a little difficult for I review AfC and NPP pages, serve as a trainer for WP:NPRSCHOOL and WP:CVUA and on average I make 150 edits per day. I have more than 10K pages on my watchlist and spend about 45 mins everyday just to check new edits made on my watchlist alone before I start doing my routine work in Wikipedia. However, I am happy to help and I would reply messages on my or their talk pages if they need any assistance or queries. (4) I dont have a "modus operadi" project (I am not sure what you meant), do provide link for me to comment. Lastly, I do commend you for your efforts on BITE for writing to me. Have great day Leptictidium. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:10, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Talkback

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2020 in Mexico

Whatever happened to this article? It appears the draft of this article has been moved and no progress has been made in the last two weeks since I last inquired. If you do not want to or cannot write the article, I will be glad to do so.Michael E Nolan (talk) 18:04, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Michael E Nolan Greetings. The article is moved to draft page because the content is not supported by sources. All articles' content in Wikipedia mains pace need to support by independent reliable sources for verification to meet the notability guidelines - pls see WP:42. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:44, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Belgian Railways Class 52

References have been added as requested. Now please move the article back where it belongs. Jan olieslagers (talk) 05:10, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Jan olieslagers Greetings. Thank you for the sources. However, could you please provide inline citation so we could not which sentence/section is supported by which source. You can use "horizontal format" of Template:Cite Web for web source or you enable Wikipedia:VisualEditor and just copy and past the URL on the "URL field" and the rest of the needed fields will be automatically filled for you. Once you have done that, then pls pop back and I will review and move the page for you. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:51, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, I feel I've done enough. There are plenty of articles in much poorer shape than this one, it really merits being published. If you will not put it back in user space, modified or not, then it can remain as a draft forever, or be entirely removed, for all I care. You have done more than enough to discourage me, in spite of all my efforts; and you come across as someone who will always find an explanation to act negatively, and always have another explanation for not acting positively. So be it, have it your own way. Jan olieslagers (talk) 14:18, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
Jan olieslagers Sorry I didnt mean to discourage you for reviewer would find difficult to read the sources and try to find out which bit of the content go with which source especially if the source is the book and not page is provided. You have been editing Wikipedia for a long time and it should be pretty easy and would take only a few minutes just about the same amount of time you reply to my message above. thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:26, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
No further comments from me. Take it or leave it. Jan olieslagers (talk) 14:40, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

2020 in television

Hello, I noticed that you decided to convert 2020 in television into a draft, with your reasoning being that the page was under-sourced. The article is a set index page, which lists a set of items of a specific type that also share the same name. The "XXXX in television" articles list television event articles listed by country (e.g 2020 in American television). These articles list the events related in television for that particular country with the standard citations and reliable sources. I added what country each article covers for clarification and removed red yet-to-be created articles. Sources on this page are not required, as they are already given by said articles listed. HurricaneGeek2002 talk 16:11, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

HurricaneGeek2002 Greetings, If I am not mistaken, as per Wikipedia:Set index articles#Related policies and guidelines the set index articles do need to adhere to normal notability guidelines (article needs to have multiple independence, reliable sources to support the content claimed for verification as per Wikipedia notability guidelines). If I have mistaken, then kindly correct me and thanks in advance. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 16:28, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #397

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New Page Review training program

I heard you are a trainer can I become a student in the new Page Review training program JaneciaTaylor (talk) 20:08, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

JaneciaTaylor, Greetings. Please do note that NPP School program does require a lot of reading and assignments. The program is comprised of 3 parts with 10 assignments and a final exam. NPP School students usually take 2 months to complete the course. Please read the NPP School syllabus and pop back here for enrollment if you are still interested. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:33, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
I’m interested JaneciaTaylor (talk) 19:19, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
JaneciaTaylor, Good day, please take up the WP:Wikipedia Adventure program, fundamental Wikipedia guidance and info) which will only take up about 2 hours of your time to complete. Please make sure you enable WP:Twinkle and know how to provide hist diff - see here Wikipedia:Simplest diff guide. I have set up the program for you and pls bookmark the page in your computer. Ping me once you have done the assignment and would like to get it. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:46, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
I’m done JaneciaTaylor (talk) 19:54, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
JaneciaTaylor, First of all, you need to add an additional colon "  : " from the previous message on the same message trade before you start your message for this is the communication protocal in Wikipedia - pls see Help:Wikitext. Secondly, keep all communication regarding the program/assignments in the program sub page (at the bottom of every assignment). I have replied and add further requirements needed from you. Please read them carefully. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:33, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

/* Unisys and LZW patent enforcement */ Change Dutch to German

Why is my change to the referenced patent as German instead of Dutch classified as a disruptive edit? The country code DE stands for Germany (Deutschland), the patent referenceCite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page). contains DE, the referenced Google Patents page[1] mentions Germany, the patent was (also) published in German, and the inventor seems to hail[2] from Bonn, a German city, where he also works or worked for the Bonn University[3]. All these taken together is what prompted me to change the country reference. Eldepe (talk) 14:27, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

References

Eldepe Hi, Apologies and upon rechecking the ref and noticed it was my mistake. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 02:45, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

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New message from Target Barsado

Hello, Cassiopeia. You have new messages at [[User talk:Target Barsado#Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit|Target Barsado's talk page]].
Message added 16:17, 20 January 2020 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Hello, I would like to join and learn from you Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit, how to fight vandal and create good edit Target Barsado (talk) 16:17, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) This user has asked me for CVUA training as well. Interstellarity (talk) 00:22, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@Target Barsado and Interstellarity:, Target Barsado, Good day. When you ask for enrollment, make sure you only ask from one trainer and if the trainer could not train you in any reason, they usually will refer you to another available trainer. I will let Interstellarity to handle your request here.
Interstellarity, I am still waiting for you answer on AfC sub page (Draft:Gil Z. Hochberg- contrary to Wikipedia purpose). Pls reply me on the AfC sub page. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 02:30, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@CASSIOPEIA and Interstellarity:, Good day , to you both. I want to learn how to contribute and so I replied to you both, because you two are giving training and slot were limited so. I'm sorry if I did wrong something. I respect that work are important and I should be patience and wait until approaching other. Thanks Target Barsado (talk) 02:39, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@Target Barsado: No, you didnt do anything wrong. I just inform you the normal way we do things here. By the way if you have not read Help:Wikitext pls do as it would help your editing in Wikipedia. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 02:48, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@CASSIOPEIA: I have gone through it. But wouldn't mind reading once again. And as I'm gonna learn either from you or @Interstellarity:, So I would to inform I did a mistake regarding copyright in the article Jamtara - Sabka Number Ayega and the error was removed, but I never intended to do so. So could you please check the article Delhi Crime, as I tried to rectify a mistake. Thanks Target Barsado (talk) 03:05, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

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Dawn Smith Jordan article / request for resubmission

Hi, I have continued to add to the article since it first was rejected but I don't know how to get it reconsidered. I've also posted to another location that popped up while I was researching how to get it resubmitted and I posted a question there which does not appear in my history or alerts, so I don't know how to get back to that post. The stated reason for rejection within the article was "not sufficiently notable" yet there is another Miss South Carolina who also was a runner-up to Miss America (Ali Rogers) who had no other items cited which was approved. I have included numerous other details on Jordan's proposed page which include numerous references outside of her own page, which I cannot list as I understand it. So, I've gone well beyond what Ali Rogers has on her page and I don't understand why this is not enough. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dlee1964 (talkcontribs) 00:08, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Dlee1964 Good day. You could place {{subst:submit}} on top of the draft page. However, I dont think the subject is notable to have Wikipedia page. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 02:45, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

How to get permissions to Wiki for Photos to add to page...I find editing these pages very frustrating with all the rules...even when you get permission for use of photos

I'm trying to upload photos to a page, the page I've made has been helped if you want to call it that.

I have photos from the Daughter of the person the page is for, but have had the photos taken down. She has the physical photos and is the holder of these images of the deceased person who is an important person in the growers community. It's only right this person have a rightful spot on this page.

How do I get the photos that belong to the daughter of a deceased person on a Wiki Page?????

Why is this so hard? Why can't a person get permissions from the family and then have them posted?

What works? What is the work around to get this happening? I'm not an academic and this frustrates me to no end! All these bright and smart ppl adding to this but it's been made unreachable to someone like myself that is trying to make a page.

It's certainly making my monthly contribution something I question and if I should be a loyal contributor to a site that is made for elitists that control it?

You've made it so unreachable, this shouldn't be this hard to contribute! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael212427 (talkcontribs) 19:07, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Michael212427 Good day to you and thank you for your question. I understand you frustration and I was once a new editor. But, fear no more as there are plenty of editors would help you on your journey in Wikipedia. It is a steep and long learning curve for all us in the beginning but slowly and surely you will be familiar with the Wikipedia guidelines and how to edit Wikipedia page. The basic requirement for an image to be uploaded to Wikipedia is that the copyright holder need to agree to the Wikipedia Terms of Use that the copyright holder irrevocably agrees to release the image under the CC BY-SA 3.0 License and the GFDL which means anyone in the world (not on in Wikipedia only) can use the image for whatever purposes of their choosing. The point we need the irrevocably consent is because violate the copyright law will entail legal implications.
You need to read Wikipedia:Uploading images and Wikipedia:FAQ/Contributing#Copyrights then read Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission then [[10]] and Wikipedia:Declaration of consent for all enquiries. However, the easier way to do this is to ask the copyright holder to upload the image themselves on Wikipedia. The steps are as below:
  1. Ask the copyright holder to register in Wikipedia - see here create an account
  2. Go to Upload Wizard at Wikimedia Commons to upload the image (follow the instructions)
  3. Once it is done, ask the copyright holder to send you the URL where the image is located or send you the file name and you can search it at here at the right top corner.
  4. paste the file name on Wikipedia page. Example Alex Honnold rock climbing pic. Click 'use this file" and paste
    File:Alex Honnold at Yosemite.png
    (see in source edit mode) in the Wikipedia page or "Alex Honnold at Yosemite.png" in the infobox section.
In addition - For any editing questions, you can go to WP:Teahouse, a friendly Wikipedia sites where by many friendly Teahouse hosts will help to answer your questions. For technical questions, you can go to Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) where all the technical editor will help and guidelines to solve technical questions. For article for creation you can go to Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk.
Hope the above is helpful and let me know if anything else I could help you. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 02:56, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

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